Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/17/2016 11:28 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote: With your own domain name you could also set up your own mail server at least for the inbound email. Doing that gives you an unlimited number of "email accounts". I'm currently approaching 400 aliases to "jon". If I start a new relationship with a ven

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 04:03:24PM +0930, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 12:27 -0500, g wrote: ... > > Some service providers are just crap, and knowing that I've not used an > ISP mail account since I ditched my second one. That way, I'm not held > hostage to them. It's really worth getting

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 12:27 -0500, g wrote: > thanks to yuchahoo bouncing my good email, even after filling out and > submitting forms that lists.fedoraproject.org and 5 other subscribed > to list are desired, and, also aggravating is that yuckahoo also marks > good emails as junk and sends them to

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 11:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > This seems to explain the issue. Yahoo basically wants everyone to > reject yahoo emails sent from other mail servers, which is what > mailing lists do. But Google is one of the few, I guess, that honor > this request, and that's why it goes

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > This seems to explain the issue. Yahoo basically wants everyone to > reject yahoo emails sent from other mail servers, which is what > mailing lists do. But Google is one of the few, I guess, that honor > this request, and that's why it goes

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/16/2016 12:17 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Short version as I understand it: yahoo's addition of dmarc=fail is a request to consider any email not sent by a yahoo mail server as spam, and Google is one of the few to honor that request. And no wonder. To quote from Wikipedia: Reject policy is

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Short version as I understand it: yahoo's addition of dmarc=fail dmarc=reject rather -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/l

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Greg Woods wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Tim wrote: >>> Chris Murphy : FYI, gmail puts your emails in spam for the following reason: Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address i

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Tim wrote: >> Chris Murphy : >>> >>> FYI, gmail puts your emails in spam for the following reason: Why is >>> this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com.au but has >>> failed yahoo.com.au's requir

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Murphy
This seems to explain the issue. Yahoo basically wants everyone to reject yahoo emails sent from other mail servers, which is what mailing lists do. But Google is one of the few, I guess, that honor this request, and that's why it goes to spam no matter what anti-training is applied. Old article t

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 01:18:29 +0930 Tim wrote: > Misha S.: > > But you have to put a notice that makes you look like a douche in > > all your outgoing mail. > > And up yours, too... If you go around throwing insults, expect to get > slapped in the face for it. Both of you please stop the pers

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/16 09:47, Misha S. wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Tim wrote: >> The chief step being to post to this list using an address that's inbox >> auto-deletes everything without a special password, and to receive >> messages using a second address that isn't publicly exposed on this

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Tim wrote: > Chris Murphy : > > FYI, gmail puts your emails in spam for the following reason: > > Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com.au but > > has failed yahoo.com.au's required tests for authentication. > This is, unfortunately, a

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Tim
Tim: >> The chief step being to post to this list using an address that's inbox >> auto-deletes everything without a special password, and to receive >> messages using a second address that isn't publicly exposed on this >> list. Long, long, ago, I found that posting to mailing lists was the >> ma

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-16 Thread Misha S.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Tim wrote: > The chief step being to post to this list using an address that's inbox > auto-deletes everything without a special password, and to receive > messages using a second address that isn't publicly exposed on this > list. Long, long, ago, I found that po

gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-15 Thread Tim
Hi, Chris Murphy : > FYI, gmail puts your emails in spam for the following reason: > Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com.au but > has failed yahoo.com.au's required tests for authentication. That's particularly odd, since to send emails using this address, I actually p