Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> "dev let distro" >^^^ > apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. > Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail > > That's the truth of it. This list is for Fedor

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:08:25 +0100 poma wrote: > Aleš, do get what to mail! > Pictures of snowy topped mountains in Spring import Java.Util.* Where's my picture gone. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 19:54, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> "dev let distro" >^^^ > apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. > Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail > > That's the truth of it. > > ___ > Regards, > Frank > www

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > "dev let distro" ^^^ apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail That's the truth of it. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. Once again, I've no idea what "dev let distro" means or if it has any bearing on the question of cross-posting. I presume it's

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:17, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:14:54 +0100 > poma wrote: > >>> Don't ask me I just read the stuff. >> >> Are you the "Others"? :) >> >> > > I learned Java, now Swing is out Java FX is back in. > Can't they leave an old dog with his ways. :) poma -- users

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:10, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 04:06pm on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 (UK time), poma wrote: > >> On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >>> Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, >>> and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. >>> Fedora.next Pri

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:14:54 +0100 poma wrote: > > Don't ask me I just read the stuff. > > Are you the "Others"? :) > > I learned Java, now Swing is out Java FX is back in. Can't they leave an old dog with his ways. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:06pm on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 (UK time), poma wrote: > On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > > 1: Devs

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:08, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:06:23 +0100 > poma wrote: > >> On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >>> Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, >>> and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. >>> Fedora.next Primary audience for

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 15:57, Ed Greshko wrote: > Totally agree. > > It didn't trouble me in the least that the message was posted to multiple > lists. > > I guess some folks would have been happier if Ales would have sent individual > messages to each of the mailing lists. Yeah I see when someo

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:06:23 +0100 poma wrote: > On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > > 1: Devs > > 2: SysAdmins >

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > 1: Devs > 2: SysAdmins > 3: Others WTF are "Others"!? True priority list: 1. Users 2.

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:46:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > Oh I see. If I'm not looking for help then I can just ignore the > Guidelines and do what I want. That just makes so much sense. > > poc Forgot the most compelling piece of my argument: This is the sig from @test. @ devel is si

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/14 22:49, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 21 January 2014 10:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three >> different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those >> using dnf will get the update anyway. > It seems to me

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:46:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > Oh I see. If I'm not looking for help then I can just ignore the > Guidelines and do what I want. That just makes so much sense. > > poc Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, and in the main Devs will get all the

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> I'd say that was a rather creative interpretation. There's no wording >> in the Guideline to support that position. See >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Do_not_Cross_Post >> (it's only

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Richard Hughes
On 21 January 2014 10:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three > different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those > using dnf will get the update anyway. It seems to me, Ales is damned if he does publicize the relea

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:22:05 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > I'd say that was a rather creative interpretation. There's no wording > in the Guideline to support that position. See > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Do_not_Cross_Post > (it's only a few lines and says noth

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Those guidelines are there, to me, after reading them to prevent > @users cross-posting to @devel & @test with "How do I.." questions > Not to prevent devs posting to where they feel appropriate. I'd say that was a rather creative interpretat

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:03:47 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Frank Murphy > wrote: > > Do you think that guideline really is talking > > about a dev in a dev let distro. > > > You've lost me completely now. I've no idea what you're talking about. > > poc

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Do you think that guideline really is talking > about a dev in a dev let distro. You've lost me completely now. I've no idea what you're talking about. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscr

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:35:39 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > So you think the Guideline about cross-posting is irrelevant or should > be revoked? Why do you think this exists in the first place? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines " Before Posting to the List There are a

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> The point about not cross-posting is not so much that you get multiple >> copies (it depends on the list-management software) but that anyone >> who replies on one list won't see the replies on the other lists. This >> is a recipe for confusi

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:22:19 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Frank Murphy > wrote: > > I don't believe so, I received only one copy ot the dnf mail, > > though on all 4 lists. > > The point about not cross-posting is not so much that you get multiple > cop

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > I don't believe so, I received only one copy ot the dnf mail, > though on all 4 lists. The point about not cross-posting is not so much that you get multiple copies (it depends on the list-management software) but that anyone who replies on

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:42:52 +0100 poma wrote: > Rather than rational, it's more opportune. > PO'C got a point. ;) I don't believe so, I received only one copy ot the dnf mail, though on all 4 lists. dnf has got quite a lot more testting as a result of Ales OP: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/p

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 11:13, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:07:43 + > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three >> different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those >> using dnf will get the update anyway.

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:07:43 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three > different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those > using dnf will get the update anyway. > > poc It's on users anyway, as Ales asked "her

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > We're releasing 0.4.12 today. See all the information at the usual places: > blog [1], release notes [2] and f20 update [3]. Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three different lists (none of which is the Testing

dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Ales Kozumplik
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