Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-06-07 Thread Ester MuƱoz Aparicio
El 30/05/11 18:52, Robert G. (Doc) Savage escribiĆ³: > > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 22:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 05/30/2011 09:44 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: >>> Frank, >>> >>> Will this work on an old 32-bit Thinkpad that's maxed out with 512MB of >>> RAM? Installing from DVD fails. >>

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-06-03 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 06/03/2011 05:23 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > other than a problem with CUPS, no problem here > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 3:11 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 > > wrote: > > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-06-03 Thread Javier Perez
other than a problem with CUPS, no problem here On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 3:11 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 < n2xssvv.g02gfr12...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in b

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/31/2011 11:09 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > I for one would like more prominence to > the USB image and methods of creating it on the Fedora install pages Possibly the best option would be for them simply to add a USB image to the list of downloads. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/31/2011 09:19 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > A couple of years ago I had no problems with rpmfusion kmod-nvidia's Have you checked the F15 setup guide at fedoraforums? There might be a step you're not aware of that would fix things for you. And, if not, there's lots of people there who

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/31/2011 06:16 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > but GNOME Shell runs in > standard mode with the default nouveau driver. That's good to know, if I ever go back to Gnome. XFCE works just fine, TYVM, with Compiz and the kmod-nvidia driver. (I do have the akmod installed for those rare times wh

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 31 May 2011 18:19:07 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:15:57AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> >> Your understanding is, on the whole, correct. However, you can >> >> always use akmod-nvidia instead. If there's not a kmod for the >> >> current kernel, akmo

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-31 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 31 May 2011 18:33, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/31/2011 02:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Incidentally, isn't it time the Fedora developers >> gave up this passion for DVDs? >> Does anyone burn DVDs to install Fedora today? >> Half the new machines I see don't have DVD drives anyway. >> Surely ever

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/31/2011 02:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Incidentally, isn't it time the Fedora developers > gave up this passion for DVDs? > Does anyone burn DVDs to install Fedora today? > Half the new machines I see don't have DVD drives anyway. > Surely everyone has a big enough USB stick? > Why not be

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:15:57AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> Your understanding is, on the whole, correct. However, you can always > >> use akmod-nvidia instead. If there's not a kmod for the current kernel, > >> akmod builds it on the fly at boot. It's not a panacea by any means, > >>

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Matthew Saltzman writes: On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 22:04 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 09:17 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > > I would be happy to be shown incorrect. > > Your understanding is, on the whole, correct. However, you can always > use akmod-nvidia instead. If there's not a kmod for t

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-31 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 02:26 -0500, Alex wrote: > Thanks! I'm glad there is some form of an upgrade method. I've usually > just reformatted for other distros, but it's nice to have another > option. Be warned, however, that preupgrade requires more than 512MB RAM (I think 768MB is enough). After

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 22:04 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 09:17 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > > I would be happy to be shown incorrect. > > Your understanding is, on the whole, correct. However, you can always > use akmod-nvidia instead. If there's not a kmod for the current kernel, > akm

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-31 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/31/2011 05:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm sure the suggestion that you shouldn't update > if you are going to upgrade is misguided. > How long before an upgrade are you supposed to stop updating? > To clarify, I believe the suggestion (by Michael) was to ensure that the update repo i

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-31 Thread Timothy Murphy
Alex wrote: > So to confirm, what is the preferred method to upgrade? I usually update > daily, so in F14 most likely I'd have the latest and greatest updates when > I decided to move to F15. Do I just need to bite the bullet and do a > clean install? On a clean install is it safe to keep your /h

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-31 Thread Alex
Thanks! I'm glad there is some form of an upgrade method. I've usually just reformatted for other distros, but it's nice to have another option. On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 08:23 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 31/05/11 03:10, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 05/30/2011 06:56 PM, Alex wrote: > >> So to confirm, w

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/05/11 03:10, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 06:56 PM, Alex wrote: >> So to confirm, what is the preferred method to upgrade? Preupgrade is the officially supported method, as it includes the updates repo during its calcualtions. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading "Preupgrade" -- Reg

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 09:17 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > I would be happy to be shown incorrect. Your understanding is, on the whole, correct. However, you can always use akmod-nvidia instead. If there's not a kmod for the current kernel, akmod builds it on the fly at boot. It's not a panacea by any mean

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:56:02 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 07:49 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: >> If not, then I will have to wait until NVidia fixes their drivers >> (again). > > Or, you can uninstall the binary blob, and follow the instructions here > to install akmond-nvidia and be done with

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 07:49 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > If not, then I will have to wait until NVidia fixes their drivers > (again). Or, you can uninstall the binary blob, and follow the instructions here to install akmond-nvidia and be done with it once and for all: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthrea

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 31 May 2011 01:18:47 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Montag, den 30.05.2011, 09:11 +0100 schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! > > After reading this thread I still don't know what exactly you did to > upgrade yo

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 06:56 PM, Alex wrote: > So to confirm, what is the preferred method to upgrade? I usually update > daily, so in F14 most likely I'd have the latest and greatest updates when I > decided to move to F15. Same here. I've been using preupgrade since (I think) F11 with good results. -

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Alex
So to confirm, what is the preferred method to upgrade? I usually update daily, so in F14 most likely I'd have the latest and greatest updates when I decided to move to F15. Do I just need to bite the bullet and do a clean install? On a clean install is it safe to keep your /home partition and

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2011 08:40 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> Updating the F14 prior to upgrading it to F15 may be a mistake >> already, given that F14 updates may be newer than F15 release. Do you >> enable the "updates" network repo during F15 upgrade? > > Is that true? > I thoug

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Michael Schwendt wrote: > Updating the F14 prior to upgrading it to F15 may be a mistake > already, given that F14 updates may be newer than F15 release. Do you > enable the "updates" network repo during F15 upgrade? Is that true? I thought I'd read somewhere that one should update the old system

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! WHY BOTHER?

2011-05-30 Thread john wendel
On 05/30/2011 04:05 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version a

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 30.05.2011, 09:11 +0100 schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930: > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! After reading this thread I still don't know what exactly you did to upgrade your system. Can you please give us more details ? What commands did you r

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! WHY BOTHER?

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 04:05 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > Certainly, I'll be more reluctant > to post problems here if that's the type of response I can expect. And besides, the grapes are probably sour anyway. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! WHY BOTHER?

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this i

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Alan Cox
> People, who later seemingly know what they are doing, should know better > and be responsible for their reporting. In this case, the OP later > seems to know what he is doing, making the first FUD based posting even > more believable by individuals susceptible to FUD. > > FUD is FUD no matte

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 03:09 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > No, upgrading F15 is a pain. Beware, expect danger! That statement is not FUD. That statement is measured and reasonable. That statement would normally be followed by "Make backups before proceeding with any upgrade". -- users mailing

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 30 May 2011 22:30, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > On 30/05/11 20:46, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 05/30/2011 12:28 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >>> Easy for you to say when you don't have the problem, and I wish you >>> never have a similar problem. Then I'd be interested to see your >>> response. In

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 03:03 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I think you are doing the same thing that you are accusing the other > person of doing IMO. You can just point out what is wrong. > The OP specifically told people "DON'T EVEN TRY!!!" to upgrade from F14 to F15. No details, no suggestion as to wha

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 03:09 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > I wish I could say the same, it's failed twice for me now, even from a > minimal Fedora 14 KDE reinstall/update. Might be FUD in your world,but I > hope for your sake you never come across a similar problem. Rest assured > if our places are ever

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 02:30 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > Well, I could say the same, but this problem is an order of magnitude > more complicated than anything I have experienced using Fedora in 8+ > years, is that chicken little?. Yes, it is. Starting out with the assumption that F15 is at fault --

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 20:46, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 12:28 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> Easy for you to say when you don't have the problem, and I wish you >> never have a similar problem. Then I'd be interested to see your >> response. In the meant time please see my other posts. > > I've had

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:20:55 +0100 > "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" wrote: > >> Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). > > ok. What are the messages on the screen when this fails? > Screenshot? Maybe the OP is missing t

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 01:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > multi-user.target and graphical.target are symlinked to runlevel3.target > and runlevel5.target Thank you. Change for the sake of clarity is a Good Thing. Change for its own sake often isn't. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:20:55 +0100, NG wrote: > Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). F15 doesn't use inittab anymore, so what do you mean? In case you refer to the kernel boot args, you would need to read up on systemd run-level args. -- users mailing list users@

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:44:01 +0100, NG wrote: > OK, folks I have just reinstalled Fedora 14, (KDE minimal and working), > updated, (working) , then upgraded to Fedora 15 and it still fails > completely. Updating the F14 prior to upgrading it to F15 may be a mistake already, given that F14 updates

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 01:34 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I presume the names were changed to make it easier to know what they > mean? If so, it's a good idea, especially if there's a comment > somewhere that tells you how they correspond so that all of us oldpharts > can adjust. multi-user.target and graphic

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 21:04, Joe Zeff wrote: > > I presume the names were changed to make it easier to know what they > mean? If so, it's a good idea, especially if there's a comment > somewhere that tells you how they correspond so that all of us oldpharts > can adjust. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysV

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 12:50 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote: > 3. The first boot ended at multiuser.target instead of > graphical.target. (That's init level 3 instead of level 5 in > oldspeak.) I have never touched the inittab on either machine. They > were both set to boot into the graphical login. I pre

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Monday, May 30, 2011 04:11:26 n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally > resulting in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, > using inittab mode 1,3, or 5. In

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 12:28 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > Easy for you to say when you don't have the problem, and I wish you > never have a similar problem. Then I'd be interested to see your > response. In the meant time please see my other posts. I've had problems with upgrades, installations and up

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 20:16, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 11:49 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> If you consider my response as >> hysteria, so be it. > > Coming out of nowhere and saying that because the upgrade didn't work > for you on one machine it wouldn't work for anybody was, at the least, a >

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 19:52, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > On 05/30/2011 01:20 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> >> Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). >> Currently I'm trying to boot the last Fedora 14 kernel and it's having >> to do some SELinux filesystem update. So the ne

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 11:49 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > If you consider my response as > hysteria, so be it. Coming out of nowhere and saying that because the upgrade didn't work for you on one machine it wouldn't work for anybody was, at the least, a tad over-the-top, don't you think? -- users ma

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 19:50, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode >> 1,

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 12:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/31/2011 02:53 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Come on. Let's assume good will. His warning might not be helpful with >> more details but he is certainly just trying to warn users. > Over reaction to a personal experience is *never* a good thing not

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/31/2011 02:53 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Come on. Let's assume good will. His warning might not be helpful with > more details but he is certainly just trying to warn users. Over reaction to a personal experience is *never* a good thing not matter how well intended. FUD is FUD. -- user

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/31/2011 12:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all,

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 05/30/2011 01:20 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). > Currently I'm trying to boot the last Fedora 14 kernel and it's having > to do some SELinux filesystem update. So the next thing to try is to > install from a Fedora 15 in

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 19:31, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 10:44 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> Based on this experience I'm loathe to recommend Fedora 15, >> and I suspect that even a Fedora 15 DVD install will give the same >> result. > > Going from a specific example to a general rule is called "ind

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 19:26, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:20:55 +0100 > "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" wrote: > > Sure, your choice. There's clearly some bug or issue here and we want > to get to the bottom of it, but just as clearly it doesn't affect > everyone. > > kevin > > I would also recommend

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 10:44 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > Based on this experience I'm loathe to recommend Fedora 15, > and I suspect that even a Fedora 15 DVD install will give the same > result. Going from a specific example to a general rule is called "inductive reasoning," and it's generally a Goo

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:20:55 +0100 "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" wrote: > Failed completely means I cannot even boot to a console, (inittab 3). ok. What are the messages on the screen when this fails? Screenshot? > Currently I'm trying to boot the last Fedora 14 kernel and it's having > to do some SEL

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 18:47, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:44:01 +0100 > "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" wrote: > >> On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >>> >>> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >>> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, final

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:44:01 +0100 "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" wrote: > On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally > > resulting in being unable to boot up

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! UPDATE

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this i

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 08:28 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >I only do fresh installs now (since about FC6) and it has certainly > reduced the issues for me ... if you do insist and upgrade my advice > would be alternate upgrades with fresh installs (i.e. F16 upgrade, F17 > fresh install etc). When it was

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 22:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/30/2011 09:44 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > Frank, > > > > Will this work on an old 32-bit Thinkpad that's maxed out with 512MB of > > RAM? Installing from DVD fails. > > You can try upgrading piecemeal. Some major set of p

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/30/2011 09:44 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > Frank, > > Will this work on an old 32-bit Thinkpad that's maxed out with 512MB of > RAM? Installing from DVD fails. You can try upgrading piecemeal. Some major set of packages, python, then gtk and so on Rahul -- users mailing list u

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 17:14, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > Frank, > > Will this work on an old 32-bit Thinkpad that's maxed out with 512MB of > RAM? Installing from DVD fails. > > --Doc Savage >Fairview Heights, IL > What Desktop are you using? Gnome\KDE? It might work for one of the lighter Desktops

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 17:27, Ralf Corsepius wrote: . In view of this it appears I will have to reinstall Fedora 14. >> >> Oh dear, I wish I known this before, then I wouldn't have updated to F15 >> from F14. I guess my working F15 system must be an illusion. > Well, YMMV or you might not have looked into det

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/30/2011 04:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 09:11 +0100, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any ker

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 17:14, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 09:34 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: >> the Subject: yum update >> >> to recover try: >> 1: boot from dvd\bootcd. >> >> rescue installed system >> when ready: >> >> yum --releasever=15 distro-sync --skip-broken >> > > Frank, > >

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 09:34 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > the Subject: yum update > > to recover try: > 1: boot from dvd\bootcd. > > rescue installed system > when ready: > > yum --releasever=15 distro-sync --skip-broken > Frank, Will this work on an old 32-bit Thinkpad that's maxed out with

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/30/2011 01:41 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/30/2011 06:06 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> > > If only yum worked after booting from a rescue DVD. > > I tried updating using yum in stages, (yumex actually using > networkmanager). Unfortunately this eventually crippled networkmanager, > and inittab 5 boot. The later I got round by c

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 15:00, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 09:11 +0100, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel v

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 09:11 +0100, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In v

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 13:23, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 30/05/11 13:20, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> >> It also appears the old LVM partition had become corrupted as when >> booting the rescue DVD I couldn't see my old home directory. Anyway I'm >> going to reinstall Fedora 14, update to latest releases, and

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 13:20, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > It also appears the old LVM partition had become corrupted as when > booting the rescue DVD I couldn't see my old home directory. Anyway I'm > going to reinstall Fedora 14, update to latest releases, and then try > again. Hopefully, with this being

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 11:06, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > On 30/05/11 09:34, Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 30/05/11 09:28, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN TRY!!! I've just tried and have had num

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this i

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 30/05/11 09:34, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 30/05/11 09:28, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >>> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >>> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >>> in being unabl

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:11:26 +0100, NG wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 09:28, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting >> in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/30/2011 04:11 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/05/11 09:11, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting > in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode > 1,3, or 5. In view of this it

Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally resulting in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, using inittab mode 1,3, or 5. In view of this it appears I will have to reinstall Fedora 14. cpp4ever