Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 18, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> > Hi Chris, >I read an article in a computer magazine that actually said that Fedora > was buying a certificate from Microsoft but Canonical were going down the > path is self signing rather than purchase the certificate from Microsoft.

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 05/16/2014 11:06 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 13, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 05/13/2014 01:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 12, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 05/12/2014 09:36 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 9, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Th

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 13, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 05/13/2014 01:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On May 12, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> >>> On 05/12/2014 09:36 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 9, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > The one limitation

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-13 Thread Stephen Morris
On 05/13/2014 01:58 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 12, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 05/12/2014 09:36 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 9, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: The one limitation with GPT as I understand it is that in order to use GPT you must also have UEFI a

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-12 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 12, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 05/12/2014 09:36 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On May 9, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> >>> The one limitation with GPT as I understand it is that in order to use GPT >>> you must also have UEFI active in the Bios. >> No. First,

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 05/12/2014 09:36 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 9, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: The one limitation with GPT as I understand it is that in order to use GPT you must also have UEFI active in the Bios. No. First, BIOS ≠ UEFI they are not the same thing and it's easy to remember b

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 10, 2014, at 5:50 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht writes: >> >> This is true. My laptop's MS Windows XP doesn't seem to like GPT. Not >> sure about anything more recent. I only use the XP partition to load >> updated firmware on consumer devices, so I'm not

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 9, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > The one limitation with GPT as I understand it is that in order to use GPT > you must also have UEFI active in the Bios. No. First, BIOS ≠ UEFI they are not the same thing and it's easy to remember because there's nothing basic about UEFI. S

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-11 Thread Liam Proven
On 11 May 2014 02:23, wrote: > Liam Proven writes: >> >> >> It will only install on NTFS, not FAT32 (& is too big to fit onto a >> FAT16 volume) but that's an entirely different issue. > > > A Fedora list is the last place I'd expect to get into an argument over what > Windows would install on. >

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-10 Thread David Benfell
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 09:21:38PM -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 05/10/2014 06:50 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > >My experience would be with Windows 7, which absolutely has to install on > >GPT. > > Perhaps you mean that Windows 7 has to be _able_ to install on GPT, not that > GPT is

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-10 Thread Robert Nichols
On 05/10/2014 06:50 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: My experience would be with Windows 7, which absolutely has to install on GPT. Perhaps you mean that Windows 7 has to be _able_ to install on GPT, not that GPT is a requirement. Windows 7 installs just fine on a disk with only a legacy M

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-10 Thread benfell
Liam Proven writes: It will only install on NTFS, not FAT32 (& is too big to fit onto a FAT16 volume) but that's an entirely different issue. A Fedora list is the last place I'd expect to get into an argument over what Windows would install on. But you are confusing partition schemes with

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-10 Thread Liam Proven
On 11 May 2014 01:50, wrote: > My experience would be with Windows 7, which absolutely has to install on > GPT. This is not true; I have multiple machines with Win7 and not a single one of them has any GPT disks at all. It will only install on NTFS, not FAT32 (& is too big to fit onto a FAT16

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-10 Thread benfell
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht writes: This is true. My laptop's MS Windows XP doesn't seem to like GPT. Not sure about anything more recent. I only use the XP partition to load updated firmware on consumer devices, so I'm not about to spend money to upgrade an OS I use perhaps once a year. My exper

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-10 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Stephen Morris writes: > The one limitation with GPT as I understand it is that in order to use > GPT you must also have UEFI active in the Bios. I use GPT on all my single-boot Fedora machines. All but one has the traditional BIOS. The traditional BIOS works just fine with GPT formatted disks.

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-09 Thread Stephen Morris
On 05/10/2014 10:16 AM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: Stephen Morris writes: From experience I have also found that you can't install the windows system partition on a GPT device and I thought I read somewhere that you also can't put Linux /boot on GPT either. I don't know about the

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-09 Thread benfell
Stephen Morris writes: From experience I have also found that you can't install the windows system partition on a GPT device and I thought I read somewhere that you also can't put Linux /boot on GPT either. I don't know about the rest of it, but *this* sure doesn't match my experien

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-09 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi, As I understand hard disk processes in order to use hard disks bigger than 2TB in a single partition you must format those hard disks using a GPT partition table. From what I have read the traditional DOS partition table is only capable of addressing up to 2TB, and GPT was developed t

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-08 Thread CS_DBA
On 05/08/2014 12:28 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On May 6, 2014, at 6:18 PM, CS_DBA wrote: Hi all; we've just ordered a new server (http://www.spectrumservers.com/ssproducts/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=26&idproduct=787) Originally I tried to simply upgrade an older server with more drive space, I

Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 6, 2014, at 6:18 PM, CS_DBA wrote: > Hi all; > > we've just ordered a new server > (http://www.spectrumservers.com/ssproducts/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=26&idproduct=787) > > Originally I tried to simply upgrade an older server with more drive space, I > installed 6 4TB drives and did

Re: UEFI Big Drive question (possible issue)

2014-05-06 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-05-06 18:18, CS_DBA wrote: Hi all; we've just ordered a new server (http://www.spectrumservers.com/ssproducts/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=26&idproduct=787) Originally I tried to simply upgrade an older server with more drive space, I installed 6 4TB drives and did a new OS install but th

UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-06 Thread CS_DBA
Hi all; we've just ordered a new server (http://www.spectrumservers.com/ssproducts/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=26&idproduct=787) Originally I tried to simply upgrade an older server with more drive space, I installed 6 4TB drives and did a new OS install but the OS would not allow me to config