Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 08:50 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Robert Moskowitz sent: what is claws-mail? I do not see it installed by default. Just another mail client. And with a GUI, it seems from the screenshots I've found. For logs and such, mutt does the job. For my mai

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Robert Moskowitz sent: > what is claws-mail? I do not see it installed by default. Just another mail client. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automaticall

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/26/2013 03:49 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss something if I have to do this manually for every daemon that is running. It is much simpler to monitor this through system mail.

Fwd: Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
OK. It was Mark, not Lars, that pointed out the logwatch problem. Is this a logwatch f20 bug to report, or simply 'if you know to install logwatch, you should know how to configure mail'. Of course we never had to configure mail in the past to use logwatch, but that is not logwatch maintaine

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am joining this thread, as I tripped up on this once I got my old cron jobs transfered over to this install. I have the following| $ crontab -l SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=me # For details see man 4 crontabs # Example of job definition: # . minu

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 01:26:32 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:24:14PM +, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:02:06 +0100 > > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > > rpm -q exim sendmail postfix mailx > > package exim is not installed > > package sendmail is not installed >

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:24:14PM +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:02:06 +0100 > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > rpm -q exim sendmail postfix mailx > package exim is not installed > package sendmail is not installed > package postfix is not installed > mailx-12.5-10.fc20.x86_64 > > As

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Mark C. Allman
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Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:30:29 +0100 "Lars E. Pettersson" wrote: > On 12/29/2013 01:24 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. > > Have you changed anything in the mailx setup? /etc/mail.rc ? > > As far as I can tell I can only get system mail wh

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/29/2013 01:24 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. Have you changed anything in the mailx setup? /etc/mail.rc ? As far as I can tell I can only get system mail when using an MTA, mailx without any changes seem to do nothing here. Lars

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:24:14 + Frank Murphy wrote: Forgot a link: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.files/doc/aixfiles/mailrc.htm -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:02:06 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: rpm -q exim sendmail postfix mailx package exim is not installed package sendmail is not installed package postfix is not installed mailx-12.5-10.fc20.x86_64 As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. From: Anacron To: ro

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:52:12PM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:23AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 > > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > > > I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss > > > something if I have to do this m

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:01:42 -0800 Mike Wright wrote: > Sorry for the delay. I was checking out claws-mail... > > What I was looking for is how to tell crond to use mailx instead of > sendmail. You don't need to. it was always the mail command that done it. (iirc) http://dsl.org/cookbook/coo

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-27 Thread Mike Wright
12/27/2013 02:30 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:17:37 -0800 Mike Wright wrote: Where does one specify that mailx should be used? Thanx Do you mean within claws-mail? Sorry for the delay. I was checking out claws-mail... What I was looking for is how to tell crond to use

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:17:37 -0800 Mike Wright wrote: > Where does one specify that mailx should be used? > > Thanx > Do you mean within claws-mail? -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: htt

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 26, 2013 11:46 AM, "Lars E. Pettersson" wrote: > > On 12/26/2013 07:32 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >> >> Try `journalctl -u crond --since today` for example. journalctl has >> filtering options built in, the man page is worth skimming. > > > OK, took 12 seconds (cat /var/log/cron is even faste

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/26/2013 07:32 PM, Pete Travis wrote: Try `journalctl -u crond --since today` for example. journalctl has filtering options built in, the man page is worth skimming. OK, took 12 seconds (cat /var/log/cron is even faster though :). But 'journalctl -u crond --since today' does not produce

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 26, 2013 10:47 AM, "Lars E. Pettersson" wrote: > ... > > # time journalctl | grep cron > ...lots of lines since July 28 (!)... > > real26m0.921s > user10m25.731s > sys 3m7.579s > # > > Not that useful. Any idea on how to improve that? ... > > Lars > -- > Try `journalctl -u crond

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/26/2013 06:46 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On my desktop it took 6 seconds, starting July 6, but it had only a few lines about the yum-cron problems the last two weeks. So on that computer I seem to miss a lot of lines in the systemd-log, that is present in the /var/log/cron file. Ah, so

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/25/2013 06:56 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 06:30:22 +0100 lee wrote: A system cannot correctly function without a way for such processes to send email. Yes, they can. Cron can work whether you know about it or not eg. "journalctl | grep cron | less # time journalctl |

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Mike Wright
12/26/2013 12:49 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss something if I have to do this manually for every daemon that is running. It is much simpler to monitor this through system mail. Henc

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:23AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss > > something if I have to do this manually for every daemon that is > > running. It is much simpler to mon

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: > I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss > something if I have to do this manually for every daemon that is > running. It is much simpler to monitor this through system mail. > > Hence, I would like to know what happe

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-25 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 05:56:58AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 06:30:22 +0100 > lee wrote: > > > A system cannot correctly function without a way for such processes > > to send email. > > Yes, they can. Cron can work whether you know about it or not > eg. "journalctl | grep

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 06:30:22 +0100 lee wrote: > A system cannot correctly function without a way for such processes > to send email. Yes, they can. Cron can work whether you know about it or not eg. "journalctl | grep cron | less # man journalctl if worried you can always flag on "warning, fai

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-24 Thread lee
Suvayu Ali writes: > Hi, > > I have a question. > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02:30AM -0500, Robyn Bergeron wrote: >> >> == No Default Sendmail, Syslog == >> >> In the interests of paring down services that are generally not used >> on desktop systems, Fedora 20 removes and replaces some servi

System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi, I have a question. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02:30AM -0500, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > > == No Default Sendmail, Syslog == > > In the interests of paring down services that are generally not used > on desktop systems, Fedora 20 removes and replaces some services that > many users find unneces