Re: suspend option

2025-04-29 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> On 4/28/25 5:23 PM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > ○ sleep.target > > Loaded: masked (Reason: Unit sleep.target is masked.) > > Active: inactive (dead) > > > > ○ suspend.target > > Loaded: masked (Reason: Unit suspend.target is masked.) > > Active: inactive (dead) >

Re: suspend option

2025-04-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/28/25 5:24 PM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: On 4/28/25 4:15 PM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: I do not have the suspend option available in the gnome menu for a while now. How can I recover it ? It's not in the power button menu? What kind of computer is it? What happens i

Re: suspend option

2025-04-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/28/25 5:23 PM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: ○ sleep.target Loaded: masked (Reason: Unit sleep.target is masked.) Active: inactive (dead) ○ suspend.target Loaded: masked (Reason: Unit suspend.target is masked.) Active: inactive (dead) ○ hibernate.target Loade

Re: suspend option

2025-04-28 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > On 4/28/25 4:15 PM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > > I do not have the suspend option available in the gnome menu > > for a while now. > > How can I recover it ? > > It's not in the power button menu? > What kind of computer is it? > What ha

Re: suspend option

2025-04-28 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
: "Patrick Dupre" > Subject: Re: suspend option > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 7:16 PM Patrick Dupre via users > wrote: > > > > I do not have the suspend option available in the gnome menu > > for a while now. > > How can I recover it ? > > Show t

Re: suspend option

2025-04-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 7:16 PM Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > I do not have the suspend option available in the gnome menu > for a while now. > How can I recover it ? Show the output of `systemctl status sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target hybrid-sleep.ta

Re: suspend option

2025-04-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/28/25 4:15 PM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: I do not have the suspend option available in the gnome menu for a while now. How can I recover it ? It's not in the power button menu? What kind of computer is it? What happens if you click the physical power b

suspend option

2025-04-28 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Hello, I do not have the suspend option available in the gnome menu for a while now. How can I recover it ? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com

WWAN modem becomes unavailable after suspend

2025-03-27 Thread Marco Moock
Hello! I have an HP lt4111. After suspend to ram, it only works every 2/3 times I suspend the system. It works if I suspend and wake it up again. It also works immediately after a reboot. If it doesn't work, it is being detected by lsusb, but not mmcli. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03f0:4e1d HP

Re: f40+nvidia resume from suspend

2024-12-16 Thread François Patte
Le 2024-12-16 17:50, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 17:33 +0100, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Since I installed f40 on my computer, it is impossible to suspend: the screen does not resume and stay black... Don't you mean it's impossible to resume?

Re: f40+nvidia resume from suspend

2024-12-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 17:33 +0100, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > Since I installed f40 on my computer, it is impossible to suspend: the > screen does not resume and stay black... > > Don't you mean it's impossible to resume? > kernel: 6.11.11-200.fc40.x8

f40+nvidia resume from suspend

2024-12-16 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, Since I installed f40 on my computer, it is impossible to suspend: the screen does not resume and stay black... kernel: 6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64 driver: 560.35.03 cuda: 12.6 Is there a fix? Thank you. -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5

suspend/nibernate not working on F40

2024-11-17 Thread Greg Woods
% etc.), but when I turn the system on again, it loads the image (10% ... 20% ... 30% etc.) but the resume fails and it comes back to the login screen. Suspend also behaves weirdly; if I suspend, it all goes black, but the system stays fully powered (light on power button solid on rather than blinking

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
al web service. This > works. > > 2. I suspend my system overnight and wake it automatically in the > morning). This turns out to be irrelevant, because the problem reported > here occurs even when I do it manually. > > 3. On resuming, everything is up *except* httpd. > > 4

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 14:31 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 15:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > All other network functions are working, including DNS. The problem > > is exclusively with Apache, not because it's failing (nothing in the > > journal suggests that and ther

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
-Where is this coming > > from? > > Sep 09 07:55:05 Bree systemd[1]: Finished systemd-suspend.service - System > > Suspend. > > Surely that's just the suspend service being logged, not Apache. Yes, I see that now. poc -- _

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
oming from the systemd-suspend.service stopping (because you > resumed).  That's a normal part of resume. I see. After the resume, the suspend service is stopped. poc -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send a

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 15:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > All other network functions are working, including DNS. The problem > is exclusively with Apache, not because it's failing (nothing in the > journal suggests that and there's nothing in its own error.log) but > because the system is ex

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Tim via users
md[1]: Finished systemd-suspend.service - System > Suspend. Surely that's just the suspend service being logged, not Apache. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically dele

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Chris Adams
e systemctl consistently as for > other services. And for a small, personal webserver, any > benefits of using graceful are hard to imagine as important. Yeah, graceful on suspend is kind of a waste of time, just kill it ded. > But I don't _think_ it should cause httpd to be unm

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Todd Zullinger
Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Patrick O'Callaghan said: >> On suspend: >> Sep 09 01:01:44 Bree systemd[1]: Starting systemd-suspend.service - System >> Suspend... >> Sep 09 01:01:44 Bree systemd[1]: httpd.service: Sent signal SIGWINCH to main >> pr

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Patrick O'Callaghan said: > On suspend: > Sep 09 01:01:44 Bree systemd[1]: Starting systemd-suspend.service - System > Suspend... > Sep 09 01:01:44 Bree systemd[1]: httpd.service: Sent signal SIGWINCH to main > process 332400 (httpd) on client request.

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 09:49 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > For any service that doesn't handle active network changes, you should > stop it before suspend and start it after resume, after the network is > back online.  I don't think network-online.target is sufficient for >

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Chris Adams
se the system is explicitly halting it. It's been a bit since I ran Apache httpd, but it was not reactive to network interface changes. On suspend, NetworkManager effectively downs all interfaces, and re-ups them on resume. In my past experience, httpd did not handle this cleanly; it saw the i

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 12:38 +0100, Barry Scott wrote: > > > On 22 Sep 2024, at 12:00, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Tried that with this drop-in: > > > > # cat /etc/systemd/system/httpd.service.d/override.conf > > > > [Unit] > > After=network-online.target > > Wants=network-onlin

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 21:45 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Barry Scott: > > > Does httpd recover if you unplug the network cable and then plug it back > > > in? > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > It does. The problem only ever occurs on suspend (or hibernate)/resum

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 09:41 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > If using the socket activation doesn't work for some reason, > it's probably worth adding a script to restart httpd on > resume via /usr/lib/systemd/system-sleep.  A number of > packages do this. It's working now. My bad. I had enabled it

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 09:46 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Sep 21, 2024, at 09:35, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > > > > HI. > > > > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 13:16:49 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > 4. The journal (see below) shows that httpd does resume with the rest > > > of the

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 14:29 +0200, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 12:16:59 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I enabled httpd.socket (and made no other changes), did a daemon- > > reload, then manually stopped Apache, but connecting to it doesn't > > restart it again.

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sep 21, 2024, at 09:35, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > > HI. > >> On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 13:16:49 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> 4. The journal (see below) shows that httpd does resume with the rest >> of the system, but then is immediately deactivated. The reason for this >> is not st

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Todd Zullinger
francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 12:16:59 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> I enabled httpd.socket (and made no other changes), did a daemon- >> reload, then manually stopped Apache, but connecting to it doesn't >> restart it again. > > You need to start httpd.socket,

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Francis . Montagnac
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 12:16:59 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I enabled httpd.socket (and made no other changes), did a daemon- > reload, then manually stopped Apache, but connecting to it doesn't > restart it again. You need to start httpd.socket, not only enable it (enable is for starting it

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Tim via users
Barry Scott: > > Does httpd recover if you unplug the network cable and then plug it back in? Patrick O'Callaghan: > It does. The problem only ever occurs on suspend (or hibernate)/resume. > In fact it occasionally doesn't happen then either, which suggests a > race

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Barry Scott
> On 22 Sep 2024, at 12:00, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Tried that with this drop-in: > > # cat /etc/systemd/system/httpd.service.d/override.conf > > [Unit] > After=network-online.target > Wants=network-online.target > > It made no difference. That only changes what happens when

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 12:00 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > You might also consider using the httpd.socket activation > > method.  Then httpd will be started when a request for the > > web service arrives. > > > > > > I'll take a look at that. I enabled httpd.socket (and made no other cha

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 13:42 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Sat, 2024-09-21 at 13:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Here's the relevant section from the journal: > > > > Sep 21 13:04:12 Bree systemd[1]: httpd.service: Deactivated successfully. > > Sep 21 13:04:12 Bree systemd[1]: httpd.ser

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-09-21 at 15:35 +0200, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > HI. > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 13:16:49 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > 4. The journal (see below) shows that httpd does resume with the rest > > of the system, but then is immediately deactivated. The reason for this > >

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
ish this. > > Once the service is started systemd is not involved. > It is responsibility of httpd to handle the network events while it is > running. > > Does httpd recover if you unplug the network cable and then plug it back in? It does. The problem only ever occurs on su

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-09-21 at 09:49 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > 1. I run httpd via systemd for a small personal web service. This > > works. > > > > 2. I suspend my system overnight and wake it automatically in the > > morning). Th

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
; > I run Apache on my CentOS PC, and although I don't suspend it, I don't > ever recall Apache not working after a cold/warm boot.  This only ever happens on suspend/resume, never on a reboot. poc -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lis

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-21 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-09-21 at 13:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Here's the relevant section from the journal: > > Sep 21 13:04:12 Bree systemd[1]: httpd.service: Deactivated successfully. > Sep 21 13:04:12 Bree systemd[1]: httpd.service: Consumed 2.980s CPU time. > Sep 21 13:04:14 Bree NetworkMana

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-21 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-09-21 at 13:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I assume there's a systemd mechanism for getting httpd to wait for the > network before resuming, but I've no idea how to accomplish this. I run Apache on my CentOS PC, and although I don't suspend it, I do

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-21 Thread Barry Scott
> On 21 Sep 2024, at 13:16, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I assume there's a systemd mechanism for getting httpd to wait for the > network before resuming, but I've no idea how to accomplish this. Once the service is started systemd is not involved. It is responsibility of httpd to handle the

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > 1. I run httpd via systemd for a small personal web service. This > works. > > 2. I suspend my system overnight and wake it automatically in the > morning). This turns out to be irrelevant, because the problem reported > here occurs even when I

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-21 Thread Francis . Montagnac
HI. On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 13:16:49 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > 4. The journal (see below) shows that httpd does resume with the rest > of the system, but then is immediately deactivated. The reason for this > is not stated (there's no error message), but may be because on the > system resume

Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
[Rather than adding to an existing thread (which discusses AVCs from crontab among other things, this is starting from a clean slate to reduce confusion.] 1. I run httpd via systemd for a small personal web service. This works. 2. I suspend my system overnight and wake it automatically in the

Re: f40 and nvidia suspend/resume

2024-09-07 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 6:45 AM Barry Scott wrote: > > > On 7 Sep 2024, at 08:59, François Patte < > francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote: > > No more exlanation (as usual with journalctl...) > > > journalctl does not decide what is logged that is up to the application > developer. > In this

Re: f40 and nvidia suspend/resume

2024-09-07 Thread Barry Scott
> On 7 Sep 2024, at 08:59, François Patte > wrote: > > No more exlanation (as usual with journalctl...) journalctl does not decide what is logged that is up to the application developer. In this case nvidia I assume. Barry -- ___ users mailing l

Re: f40 and nvidia suspend/resume

2024-09-07 Thread François Patte
Le 2024-09-07 08:21, francis.montag...@inria.fr a écrit : Hi. On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 16:44:51 +0200 François Patte wrote: When I suspend my system, it is impossible to resume with the nvidia module (works with nouveau and was working with f36) kernel: 6.10.6-200.fc40.x86_64 nvidia

Re: f40 and nvidia suspend/resume

2024-09-06 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 16:44:51 +0200 François Patte wrote: > When I suspend my system, it is impossible to resume with the nvidia > module (works with nouveau and was working with f36) > kernel: 6.10.6-200.fc40.x86_64 > nvidia stuff: > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-power-560.35.0

f40 and nvidia suspend/resume

2024-09-04 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, When I suspend my system, it is impossible to resume with the nvidia module (works with nouveau and was working with f36) kernel: 6.10.6-200.fc40.x86_64 nvidia stuff: nvidia-gpu-firmware-20240811-2.fc40.noarch xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc-560.35.03-3.fc40.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 20:09 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 8/25/24 12:51 AM, Barry wrote: > > > > > > > On 24 Aug 2024, at 12:18, Patrick O'Callaghan > > > wrote: > > > > > > If the RTC can wake > > > the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from > > > suspension? > > > > The RTC wake

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 08:51 +0100, Barry wrote: > The RTC wake powers on the system. But a suspended system is > already powered up and kernel is in charge. I wouldn't say so. It's barely powered up, and you're relying on firmware to control waking it up. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/25/24 12:51 AM, Barry wrote: On 24 Aug 2024, at 12:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: If the RTC can wake the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from suspension? The RTC wake powers on the system. But a suspended system is already powered up and kernel is in charge. Sort of.

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 11:13 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Doug Herr: > > > I also enabled the "Magic" check box for the Network Manager > > > config > > > for my Ethernet port. > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Not sure what that is. I don't see any such box. > > > In the Network Manager open up the

Re: Waking from suspend - SOLVED

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-08-24 at 12:17 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Having failed to get hibernation working (see recent posts about > Secure > Boot getting in the way), I tried to fall back to suspending the > system > overnight. That works of course. > > What doesn't work is waking it up automatical

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
s on the system. But a suspended system is > already powered up and kernel is in charge. > > You need to use a systemd timer to schedule the wake up. I've actually managed to get the RTC to work now (it needed another UEFI setting). I agree a systemd timer would be preferable in gene

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-08-24 at 20:22 -0700, Doug Herr wrote: > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I use UEFI mode and don't want to change it. I'm pretty sure the > > UEFI > > settings have toggles for WOL but I'll need to check. The Android > > app I > > have is called WolOn a

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Barry
> On 24 Aug 2024, at 12:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > If the RTC can wake > the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from suspension? The RTC wake powers on the system. But a suspended system is already powered up and kernel is in charge. You need to use a systemd timer to sched

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Doug Herr
On Sat, Aug 24, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I use UEFI mode and don't want to change it. I'm pretty sure the UEFI > settings have toggles for WOL but I'll need to check. The Android app I > have is called WolOn and includes a scheduler, but I'll take a look at > LanDroid to compa

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Tim via users
Doug Herr: >> I also enabled the "Magic" check box for the Network Manager config >> for my Ethernet port. Patrick O'Callaghan: > Not sure what that is. I don't see any such box. In the Network Manager open up the editing window for a connection, go into the ethernet tab, the wake-on LAN section

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-08-24 at 10:49 -0700, Doug Herr wrote: > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024, at 9:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2024-08-24 at 08:15 -0700, Doug Herr wrote: > > > I found that RTC wakeup did work to wake from suspend, but I also > > > had > >

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
7;t want to have to be in front of the system to wake it up. > > > > I have used WOL with Fedora Workstation by LAN when I didn't want to > go outside to wake-up a suspended box in an outbuilding during sa > storm. > > Wireless WOL (WWOL) is a recent innovation, so may not

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
t; > > What doesn't work is waking it up automatically. If the RTC can > > > > wake > > > > the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from > > > > suspension? > > > > I > > > > don't want to have to be in f

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread George N. White III
a suspended box in an outbuilding during sa storm. Wireless WOL (WWOL) is a recent innovation, so may not be supported on older hardware. Some Fedora systems have issues with WiFI when waking from suspend by keyboard, so I wouldn't expect WWOL to work for those. -- George N. White III --

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Mike Wright
ending the system overnight. That works of course. What doesn't work is waking it up automatically. If the RTC can wake the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from suspension? I don't want to have to be in front of the system to wake it up. I found that RTC wakeup did

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Doug Herr
On Sat, Aug 24, 2024, at 9:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2024-08-24 at 08:15 -0700, Doug Herr wrote: >> I found that RTC wakeup did work to wake from suspend, but I also had >> a number of issues with it which I can't really remember right now. >> My s

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
> system > > overnight. That works of course. > > > > What doesn't work is waking it up automatically. If the RTC can > > wake > > the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from suspension? > > I > > don't want to have to be in fron

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Doug Herr
aking it up automatically. If the RTC can wake > the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it from suspension? I > don't want to have to be in front of the system to wake it up. I found that RTC wakeup did work to wake from suspend, but I also had a number of issues with it wh

Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Having failed to get hibernation working (see recent posts about Secure Boot getting in the way), I tried to fall back to suspending the system overnight. That works of course. What doesn't work is waking it up automatically. If the RTC can wake the system from hibernation, why can't it wake it fr

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-20 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 7:21 PM Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Tim said: > > I got the impression that only laptops seem to have reasonably well > > working suspend, and suspect that little effort is put into designing > > and testing desktops to suspend well. T

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ver. > > When I resume from suspend, no video shows. I can still ssh to the > machine, though. If I issue 'sudo shutdown -r now' from an ssh session, > the machine freezes. I can still ping, but I can't ssh (connection > refused errors). The only way I can regain

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-20 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer via users
I doubt anyone here will be able to help if you don't provide error messages that usually a system provides when things go wrong. So "man journalctl" might help ... Plus: To shut down a more or less frozen system maybe look for sysrq keys. Extra fine: 'powerconf' et al. is shutting down my machi

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-19 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Certain suspend modes require a suitable power supply, too. They don't >> switch off fully, some power circuits are required to stay up, and >> supply sufficient current to the motherboard. It also requires all the >> hardware to support suspending, some will

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tim said: > I got the impression that only laptops seem to have reasonably well > working suspend, and suspect that little effort is put into designing > and testing desktops to suspend well. That may have improved with > increasing demands for so-called green tech

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-19 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 14:26 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Don't suspend. I find it is hit or miss whether things work correctly > with ACPI Sleep States (S0 - S5). In particular, S3 and above. I got the impression that only laptops seem to have reasonably well working suspend, and s

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-19 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ver. > > When I resume from suspend, no video shows. I can still ssh to the > machine, though. If I issue 'sudo shutdown -r now' from an ssh session, > the machine freezes. I can still ping, but I can't ssh (connection > refused errors). The only way I can regain

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/19/2023 10:46 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: The proprietary nVidia driver doesn't exhibit the same problem. You're better off removing those and using the akmods from rpmfusion as you don't have to reinstall the drivers every time you install a new kernel. -- _

Machine locks on reboot from suspend

2023-12-19 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have a Dell Precision 5820 Xeon with nVidia GeForce GT 1030 graphics for video and a Quadro 4000 that I was playing with for GPU algorithms. I have a fresh (fully updated) install of Fedora 39 with the nouveau driver. When I resume from suspend, no video shows. I can still ssh to the machine

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 23:19 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > Sorry: > > KVM: keyboard, video, mouse > > I know. That's what I'm talking about. I only mentioned the virtual machine as an example of when I needed the (physical) KVM switch. poc __

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-17 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Sorry: KVM: keyboard, video, mouse > > On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 22:14 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > > It's very possible that your BIOS doesn't support waking up from > > > the > > > keyboard. > > Actually, it works fine, except when I go through a KVM > > KVMs are not all created equal.

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 22:14 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > It's very possible that your BIOS doesn't support waking up from > > the > > keyboard. > Actually, it works fine, except when I go through a KVM KVMs are not all created equal. When I set up my VM system for gaming, I had a vir

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/17/23 13:14, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: It's very possible that your BIOS doesn't support waking up from the keyboard. Actually, it works fine, except when I go through a KVM I think this is the first time a KVM has been mentioned. It's also likely that the BIOS won't read devices th

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-17 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > It's very possible that your BIOS doesn't support waking up from the > keyboard. Actually, it works fine, except when I go through a KVM > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
It's very possible that your BIOS doesn't support waking up from the keyboard. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraprojec

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-17 Thread Tim via users
Patrick Dupre wrote: > OK, I checked the Bios options: > These what I have (3 options) > AC Recovery: > Power Off, Power On, Last Power State > Right now I Power Off is set, maybe I should set Last Power State This is what you want the PC to do if the power fails while it's running. Do you want i

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-17 Thread Patrick Dupre
=== > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 8:00 AM > From: "Tim via users" > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Cc: "Tim" > Subject: Re: wake up from suspend > > On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 18:08 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > >

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-16 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 18:08 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > On one computer I can wake up the computer in suspend mode by pressing > escape, on the other one, I have to push the ON/OFF button. > How can I manage this behavior? You may have BIOS options, or jumpers on older motherboar

Re: wake up from suspend

2023-10-16 Thread Souji Thenria via users
On 10/16/23 17:08, Patrick Dupre wrote: > On one computer I can wake up the computer in suspend mode by pressing > escape, on the other one, I have to push the ON/OFF button. > How can I manage this behavior? Hey I think the firmware handles the wake-up event. There should be an opti

wake up from suspend

2023-10-16 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, On one computer I can wake up the computer in suspend mode by pressing escape, on the other one, I have to push the ON/OFF button. How can I manage this behavior? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 26, 2023, at 18:00, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:49:46 -0600 > Joe Zeff wrote: > >> And if you're not going to be using a GUI, why install one in the first >> place? Wouldn't it be easier to do a server install that doesn't have one? > > On systems I use like that, I

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:49:46 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > And if you're not going to be using a GUI, why install one in the first > place? Wouldn't it be easier to do a server install that doesn't have one? On systems I use like that, I kind of like the GUI installed so I can run GUI tools via ssh X

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/26/2023 03:44 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: If I'm just using it as a firewall, I'd also do: systemctl set-default multi-user.target To run without an active GUI system. And if you're not going to be using a GUI, why install one in the first place? Wouldn't it be easier to do a server instal

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:32:25 -0400 Tim Evans wrote: > And, for those like me using F38 for a firewall or who otherwise need > their systems to not suspend EVER, down a ways in this document: > > # systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target > hybrid-sleep.targ

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tim Evans
se like me using F38 for a firewall or who otherwise need their systems to not suspend EVER, down a ways in this document: # systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target hybrid-sleep.target ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 3:21 PM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Tim Evans wrote: > > This was an in-place dnf upgrade. The existing setting in Gnome shouldn't > > have been changed, right? > > The default did change which affects the gdm user. Unless > you're logged into a Gnome session on this firewa

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tim Evans wrote: > This was an in-place dnf upgrade. The existing setting in Gnome shouldn't > have been changed, right? The default did change which affects the gdm user. Unless you're logged into a Gnome session on this firewall, it would pick up the new default. https://discussion.fedoraproj

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tim Evans
On 4/26/23 14:12, Barry wrote: On 26 Apr 2023, at 19:04, Tim Evans wrote: Upgraded my firewall machine F37->F38 today, with no apparent errors or issues... EXCEPT that I found it on power suspend twice in the first hour after finishing the upgrade. Checked power settings and fo

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Barry
> On 26 Apr 2023, at 19:04, Tim Evans wrote: > > Upgraded my firewall machine F37->F38 today, with no apparent errors or > issues... > > EXCEPT that I found it on power suspend twice in the first hour after > finishing the upgrade. Checked power settings and

Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tim Evans
Upgraded my firewall machine F37->F38 today, with no apparent errors or issues... EXCEPT that I found it on power suspend twice in the first hour after finishing the upgrade. Checked power settings and found "Automatic Suspend" ON and set to 15 minut

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