Once upon a time, Todd Zullinger <t...@pobox.com> said:
> FWIW, apachectl in Fedora is a wrapper around systemctl, for
> folks who have trained themselves to use apachectl.

Ahh, didn't know that.

> I'm not advocating for its use, as I think it's more work to
> call it than it is to use systemctl consistently as for
> other services.  And for a small, personal webserver, any
> benefits of using graceful are hard to imagine as important.

Yeah, graceful on suspend is kind of a waste of time, just kill it ded.

> But I don't _think_ it should cause httpd to be unmanaged --
> unless there's something more obscure I'm missing (which is
> always possible)?

What I meant was if you just "apachectl start" (when apachectl didn't
call systemd), now you've got a background httpd that is not running
under the relevant systemd service, so it's effectively "unmanaged" as
far as the init system is concerned - systemd will consider
httpd.service dead because that copy exited.  "systemctl status" will
show the system state as "degraded" instead of "running" (I monitor
systemctl status in Nagios via SNMP).
-- 
Chris Adams <li...@cmadams.net>
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