On 06/15/2011 06:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 06:53 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>> As I said, that was only wild assumption. I guess it was wrong
> I think it may be too early to determine that :-)
>
>
Oh, while it is still to early to determine where/if a problem exists
I do find it
On 06/15/2011 04:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 07:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> systemd can control both native configuration files for systemd called
>> unit files (man systemd.unit for details )and it is also compatible with
>> System V init scripts.
> I believe the question being a
On 06/15/2011 07:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> systemd can control both native configuration files for systemd called
> unit files (man systemd.unit for details )and it is also compatible with
> System V init scripts.
I believe the question being asked is
What services are now "native syste
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 13:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 01:34 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 06/14/2011 11:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >> That wasn't my point. Was any part of the following Q&A actually
> >> obscure to you?
> > I haven't had time to look at it.
>
> It is such a
On 06/15/2011 04:37 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> What is obscure about it? chkconfig will not list any systemd services
>> and sshd is still using sys v initscript
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>>
>>
> What services does systemd control that are not Sys V services?
systemd can control both native configuration f
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 19:04 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 06:45 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > In the section headed "Does chkconfig command work with systemd?
> >
> > The last line says: chkconfig --list doesn't list systemd services,
> > which is a slightly more obscure statement. Ar
On 06/15/2011 06:53 PM, Pasha R wrote:
> As I said, that was only wild assumption. I guess it was wrong
I think it may be too early to determine that :-)
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 06:42 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>> Just a wild assumption: may be sendmail fork()'d and then parent
>> process exited, so from systemd point of view, it exited.
>
> Then, shouldn't everyone's system be the same?
>
> And, more curious, why
On 06/15/2011 06:42 PM, Pasha R wrote:
> Just a wild assumption: may be sendmail fork()'d and then parent
> process exited, so from systemd point of view, it exited.
Then, shouldn't everyone's system be the same?
And, more curious, why this?
[egreshko@meimei etc]$ sudo systemctl restart sendmail
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 06:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 06/15/2011 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> I would like to know then why these show up as they do when their
>>> daemons are running/active
>>>
>>> sendmail.service loaded active e
On 06/15/2011 06:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/15/2011 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> I would like to know then why these show up as they do when their
>> daemons are running/active
>>
>> sendmail.service loaded active exited
>> sshd.service loaded active running
On 06/15/2011 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I would like to know then why these show up as they do when their
> daemons are running/active
>
> sendmail.service loaded active exited
> sshd.service loaded active running
FWIW, sendmail.service is under running status on
On 06/15/2011 06:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> A running service is typically a active daemon. A unit file that has
> completed its job and exited would show you exited status
That would seem to be a logical assumptionbut still an assumption.
I would like to know then why these show up as t
On 06/15/2011 02:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I have read it, and found it perfectly clear
>
> I don't know if it would help to make it clearer than it already
> is...but you may consider a slight restructure.
>
> "chkconfig --list doesn't list systemd services, only SysV services.
> The output
On 06/15/2011 03:48 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> This has nothing to do with any deep expertise. I wrote the entire wiki
> page and I want to know what is so confusing about this sentence
>
> "chkconfig --list doesn't list systemd services and the output of
> chkconfig itself has a note on this. Y
On 06/15/2011 01:34 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 11:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> That wasn't my point. Was any part of the following Q&A actually
>> obscure to you?
> I haven't had time to look at it.
It is such a short question and answer. Why not read it first? It
takes about a m
On 06/15/2011 06:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:14:14 +0200
> Timothy Murphy wrote:
>
>> "systemctl -t service" produces much the same information
>> as "chkconfig --list", though in a less readable form, IMHO.
> Not really. It tells me which ones are running or exited,
> but no
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:14:14 +0200
Timothy Murphy wrote:
> "systemctl -t service" produces much the same information
> as "chkconfig --list", though in a less readable form, IMHO.
Not really. It tells me which ones are running or exited,
but not which ones are enabled (and for sure not which ones
Tom Horsley wrote:
> I don't know about the warning, but the really interesting thing is
> that there is no equivalent of chkconfig --list for systemd :-(.
>
> The closest you can get is apparently:
>
> ls /etc/systemd/system/*.wants/*.service
"systemctl -t service" produces much the same infor
On 06/14/2011 11:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> That wasn't my point. Was any part of the following Q&A actually
> obscure to you?
I haven't had time to look at it. And, my point was that the way you
phrased your response made it look like you were expecting everybody to
understand things tha
On 06/15/2011 12:22 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> The point of this long-winded message is, don't assume that something
> should be clear and obvious to everybody here just because it is for
> you. Remember, most of us don't have the depth of experience that you
> do, and we're grateful that you're wil
On 06/14/2011 06:34 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> What is obscure about it? chkconfig will not list any systemd services
> and sshd is still using sys v initscript
Raul, I'm sure that this is obvious to you because you've been involved
in the development of F15 and have been exposed to much more o
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:15:45 -0500, AK wrote:
> In the section headed "Does chkconfig command work with systemd?
>
> The last line says: chkconfig --list doesn't list systemd services,
> which is a slightly more obscure statement. Are not services like sshd
> services systemd services. I suspect
On 06/14/2011 06:45 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> In the section headed "Does chkconfig command work with systemd?
>
> The last line says: chkconfig --list doesn't list systemd services,
> which is a slightly more obscure statement. Are not services like sshd
> services systemd services. I suspect fro
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:15:45 -0500
Aaron Konstam wrote:
> Could you clarify the meaning of the warning produced when it is run?
I don't know about the warning, but the really interesting thing is
that there is no equivalent of chkconfig --list for systemd :-(.
The closest you can get is apparent
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 09:15 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:01:12 -0500, AK wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:29 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > > Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today.
> > > > And some strange tings occurred.
> > > > 1, The wiki pa
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 08:23 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 02:31 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:29 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >>> Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today.
> >>> And some strange tings occurred.
> >>> 1, The wiki pages on syste
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:01:12 -0500, AK wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:29 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today.
> > > And some strange tings occurred.
> > > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less
> > > does not work. That is n
On 06/14/2011 02:31 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:29 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>> Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today.
>>> And some strange tings occurred.
>>> 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less
>>> does not work. That is not true. I
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:29 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today.
> > And some strange tings occurred.
> > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less
> > does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make
> > changes. We
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:14:56 -0500, AK wrote:
> Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today.
> And some strange tings occurred.
> 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less
> does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make
> changes. Well maybe sometime.
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Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today.
And some strange tings occurred.
1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less
does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make
changes. Well maybe sometime.
2. The method for making the cursor's focus become active wh
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