Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-05-05 Thread Pal, Laszlo (private)
Forget USB stick as OS device as it told by others :) If you want to keep SATA ports, you should add some more either connecting to a low profile pci/pcie card or maybe to use some msata add-on card. It is fast, reliable and not so expensive L: -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-29 Thread Edward M
On 4/29/2014 5:30 AM, Mark Haney wrote: My $0.02. IIRC, I don't think ZFS is supported (or fully supported at any rate) in linux. I just did some research into that and couldn't find anything recent about ZFS support for newer kernels. Granted, I could have just missed it. If you want to use ZF

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-29 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/28/14 14:11, Javier Perez wrote: >> Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up >> about > 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer >than having it > on an external drive, especially if it's a flash drive. > > I

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2014-04-28 at 16:18 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > on the rotating drive. Note that a real SSD can go about twice as > fast > > as a SATA 2 port, which is probably what you have on your machine, > but > > it will still be dramatically faster than a USB stick. > > But there are USB 3.0 s

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > So ask yourself: in a home server, just what does RAID give me? Are > > you really bottlenecked for speed in a way that RAID will improve? > > Perhaps RAID can help with High Availability (and perhaps not) -- is > > that what you are

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Javier Perez
So ask yourself: in a home server, just what does RAID give me? Are > you really bottlenecked for speed in a way that RAID will improve? > Perhaps RAID can help with High Availability (and perhaps not) -- is > that what you are hoping for? Just don't think of it as backup. > -- > Hmm, I was look

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 28.04.2014, Javier Perez wrote: > My plan is to put the OS on a USB stick In my experience, that's a bad idea. USB-sticks are not reliable over a longer period, and you can expect data loss. > and use the whole 2TB for Data. I'd rather not have a > PATA SDD, and I do not want to lose one of

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Also, a USB stick will wear out a lot quicker if it's used as a > root filesystem with /tmp. Well, I've been waiting for Samsung F2FS for a long time, but still no boot support AFAIK http://www.techspot.com/news/50428-samsung-creates-f

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Javier Perez | I know, but I wanted the famous speed a SSD/flash system is supposed to | give for the OS. Specially given that it is an old system. I could be wrong, but I think - most USB sticks are quite slow. - USB2 sticks are guaranteed to be slow-ish - USB sticks seem to have low

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Javier Perez wrote: >>Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about >> 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer >than having it on an >> external drive, especially if it's a flash drive. > > I know, but I wanted the famous speed a

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Joe Zeff | On 04/28/2014 10:44 AM, Javier Perez wrote: | > | > Is there anything I should know I am not taking into consideration? | | Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% | of its capacity. It will also be much safer than having it on an external

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Javier Perez
Hi Robert. >The get a 64Gb SSD internal as you primary device and put all data on a secondary drive. If I do that I lose one SATA port out of the 4 that the motherboard has. I want to slowly upgrade it to a Raid 1+0 system, unless there is a better option. Will ZFS on two mirrored HDDs be a viab

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 14:02:47 -0400, Fred Smith wrote: though I can't tell you the steps, it is possible to build a raid-1 array using Linux Raid, with only one drive. it'll be in "degraded" mode because of only one drive, but you could then easily (??) add a second or subsequent drive to

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 04/28/2014 02:11 PM, Javier Perez wrote: >Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer >than having it on an external drive, especially if it's a flash drive. I know, but I wanted the famous speed a SSD/flash syst

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Javier Perez
>Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer >than having it on an external drive, especially if it's a flash drive. I know, but I wanted the famous speed a SSD/flash system is supposed to give for the OS. Specially give

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > 1. I could use ext4 on all HDDs eventually. But I wonder, can I use ZFS? > Specially I would like to have the ability to expand the single HDD into a > Raid once I get the second HDD as painlessly as possible. If I use ext4 I > guess I will ha

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/28/2014 10:44 AM, Javier Perez wrote: Is there anything I should know I am not taking into consideration? Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer than having it on an external drive, especially if it's a

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:44:02PM -0500, Javier Perez wrote: >HI >I have a small home server (photos, videos, music) that is reaching >full capacity. >It is a 750GB, partitioned as a 50G OS and 700G Data + swap >The mobo, an Intel DG31PR mobo has 1 PATA and 4 SATA ports (3G

Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Javier Perez
HI I have a small home server (photos, videos, music) that is reaching full capacity. It is a 750GB, partitioned as a 50G OS and 700G Data + swap The mobo, an Intel DG31PR mobo has 1 PATA and 4 SATA ports (3GB/s). Currently it is running FC20, having been continuously upgraded from almost Fedor