Since, with good help from list member, the upgrade was successfully
completed last week, and weekly patches were successfully done
yesterday, I am comfortable tagging this thread SOLVED. I thank
everyone for their time and efforts helping.
Bill.
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(responding to sixpack13)
> you shouldn't feel neither some sort of "guilty" nor to walk/stay
> on an "self-destruction tip" cause of unemployness !
My point is that I can not afford paid help.
> You HAVE a realistic alternative EVERYTIME cause as an unemployed
> you have a lot of time.
SERIOUSL
...
s/for that case ! /for that case ! AND Backups of your important data/
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> (responding to sixpack13)
> This is workstation in my home; I am
> it's sole user;
That's what I was assuming.
it was just a rhetorical question !
> ... But I've been unemployed for 5+ years, so I have no
> realistic alternative but to be my own sys. admin. ...
you shouldn't feel neither s
> On 10/15/2019 03:05 PM, sixpack13 wrote:
>
> Is it still installed by default if I'm running Xfce?
s/installed by default /installed by default under GNOME/
sixpack13 is old, sometimes blind and a lot more in this range.
He could NOT have everything everywhere on his/hims (?) radar, and and
On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 17:28 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/15/2019 04:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 10/15/19 3:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > > On 10/15/2019 03:05 PM, sixpack13 wrote:
> > > > installed by default and is under gnome programs => Utilities =>
> > > > "Disk Usage Analyse"
> > >
> >
On 10/15/2019 04:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 10/15/19 3:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/15/2019 03:05 PM, sixpack13 wrote:
installed by default and is under gnome programs => Utilities =>
"Disk Usage Analyse"
Is it still installed by default if I'm running Xfce?
Unlikely, the package name i
(responding to sixpack13, two posts)
> baobab
> installed...
> s/Disk Usage Analyse/Disk Usage Analyzer/
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baobab_(Software)
ok, thank-you.
(responding to John)
> Konqueror has ...
ok, thank-you.
Let's continue this in the new thread.
thanks,
Bill.
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On 10/15/19 3:55 PM, home user wrote:
Thank-you. I did not know about these. I was using the man pages on my
workstation. Is there a local man page for system-upgrade plugin? I'm
not finding one.
man dnf.plugin.system-upgrade
Assuming your mandb is up-to-date, you can do things like "man
On 10/15/19 3:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/15/2019 03:05 PM, sixpack13 wrote:
installed by default and is under gnome programs => Utilities => "Disk
Usage Analyse"
Is it still installed by default if I'm running Xfce?
Unlikely, the package name is "baobab".
(responding to sixpack13)
> And who is the "sys.admin" and does the "sys.admin"-tasks on your box ?
This is workstation in my home; I am it's sole user; it's my only
workstation; it's what I use for communication, personal financial
business, some entertainment, and other things. No games. I h
On 10/15/2019 03:05 PM, sixpack13 wrote:
installed by default and is under gnome programs => Utilities => "Disk Usage
Analyse"
Is it still installed by default if I'm running Xfce?
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> Yes
Thank-you. Done.
> rm /var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade deletes the link.
Done. Thank-you.
> FWIW, as noted by Samuel, removing packages won't buy you much.
I was taught to get the advice of 2 or 3 wise friends where practical;
it's in the Bible somewhere (I wish I could rem
On 15/10/2019 21:34, Ed Greshko wrote:
You may wish to show how much space you have on / and how much is used.
Then go about finding what
areas take up the majority of space. There may be a GUI tool for that
but I can't think of it at 4AM.
I can only think of "du -s *" used at various points
s/Disk Usage Analyse/Disk Usage Analyzer/
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baobab_(Software)
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> There may be a GUI tool for that but I can't
> think of it at 4AM.
baobab
installed by default and is under gnome programs => Utilities => "Disk Usage
Analyse"
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> To remove cached metadata and transaction use 'dnf system-upgrade clean'
> The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful
> transaction.
> You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'.
> -
> My sense is that those two dnf commands are things the
On 10/16/19 4:14 AM, home user wrote:
question 1: Can I delete "/home/sysyem-upgrade"? I'm fully done with it,
right? (yes, I know it's only a few bytes)
Yes
question 2: How do I unlink (decouple) "/var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade" and "/home/system-upgrade". I looked at the "ln" man page, and
(responding to Samuel)
> The first one is specific to the system-upgrade plugin ...
ok, nothing for me to do there.
> The second one is just the standard bit...
ok, nothing for me to do there.
(continuing on my previous post)
> Let's deal with this one first, then I'll post the second.
The secon
On 10/15/19 10:44 AM, home user wrote:
(responding to Samuel)
> This is a 3rd-party application that you installed manually.
sigh. How did I miss that? (don't answer!) You're correct. It's for
zoom meetings. On a few issues that I bring to this list, I wish I
could do a zoom meeting to de
(responding to Ed)
> Yes, research is required. Especially in the event one may be using
some of them.
> I would not willy-nilly erase all of them.
Last Thursday, I came "that close" to running that
"dnf remove $(dnf repoquery --extras --exclude=kernel,kernel-\*)".
Looks like it's a good thing
> (responding to sixpack13)
> -bash.9[~]: uname -a
> Linux coyote 5.2.18-200.fc30.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 1 13:14:07 UTC 2019
...
> The grub menu has the following choices:
> Fedora-30
> Fedora-29 (from Oct. 10?)
> Fedora-29 (from Oct, 03?)
> Fedora-30 rescue
> Windows-7
>
remove elder kernels an
On 10/14/19 7:10 AM, home user wrote:
zoom.x86_64 2.8.252201.0616-1 @@commandline
This is a 3rd-party application that you installed manually.
Can I remove all these without causing any problems with the Fedora-29
or rescue options in the grub menu?
Since they'
On 10/15/19 10:37 AM, Tim via users wrote:
On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 17:26 +, sixpack13 wrote:
I guess you could
- remove all packages lower than F29 if you are currently on F29
I wouldn't do that without research. Sometimes old packages will be
re-used with a new release, as there wasn't an
On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 17:26 +, sixpack13 wrote:
> I guess you could
> - remove all packages lower than F29 if you are currently on F29
I wouldn't do that without research. Sometimes old packages will be
re-used with a new release, as there wasn't any need to recompile them.
--
uname -
(responding to sixpack13)
> cause to me it's not clear on what
> 1. architecture you are (x86_64 or i686) ?
> 2. kernel you are ?
> 3. fedora version you are ?
-bash.9[~]: uname -a
Linux coyote 5.2.18-200.fc30.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 1 13:14:07 UTC 2019
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
and I say to my self:
"ALLWAYS read twice AND the whole thread, sixpack13, that you, sixpack13, would
have realized that's ONLY "cleanup" AFTER successful upgrade is all about ...!
Thank you sixpack13 for the kindly advice, thanks !
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> Can I remove all these without causing any problems with the Fedora-29
> or rescue options in the grub menu?
good question !
cause to me it's not clear on what
1. architecture you are (x86_64 or i686) ?
see your first post cit.: "...libcap-2.26-5.fc30.i686 needs..." => "i686" !
2. kernel
With the Thunderbird problem solved, I'm back to the clean-up phase of this.
I'm a mere home user. What remains on this issue is beyond my training
and experience. So I need careful guidance. One of the steps in the
upgrade instructions, "Clean-Up Old Packages", is first to run
"dnf list ex
On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 11:33 -0600, Bill wrote:
> bash.12[~]: df -hP
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> devtmpfs7.8G 0 7.8G 0% /dev
> tmpfs 7.9G 62M 7.8G 1% /dev/shm
> tmpfs 7.9G 1.7M 7.9G 1% /run
> tmpfs 7.9G 0 7.9G 0% /
ok, it's done. A couple issues remain. I'll launch a separate thread
for one (Thunderbird issues). The other...
==
-bash.3[~]: dnf list extras
Last metadata expiration check: 1:44:37 ago on Thu 10 Oct 2019 03:53:44
PM MDT.
Extra Packages
beignet.x86_64 1.3.2-5.fc29 @fed
(sigh) I was too fast?
bash.31[~]: dnf system-upgrade reboot
Error: system is not ready for upgrade
bash.32[~]: cd
bash.33[~]: dnf system-upgrade reboot
Error: system is not ready for upgrade
bash.34[~]:
I see I missed a post from Samuel while off-line.
I re-tried the download; here's the end
I'm going to try what Samuel suggested and Terry agreed I should try:
> But here is what I've done in this situtation. If you have enough
space on /home,
> then run:
> mv /var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade /home
> and
> ln -s /home/system-upgrade /var/lib/dnf
Roger's and Joe's suggestions look like goo
On 10/10/19 10:53 AM, home user wrote:
(replying to both of Samuel's posts)
> Your / is pretty full.
Is that all from the dnf downloading of f-30, or is there something
(prior upgrades? prior patching?) that I can clear out to make room? it
helps here's an overview of '/':
On 10/10/2019 12:01 PM, Roger Heflin wrote:
I have machinesthat / is only 20G and I have been able to upgrade
them. So you should probably figure out what is using the space.
Another thing that might help is to install Bleachbit and run it as root
so that you can clean all of the cruft out o
I have machinesthat / is only 20G and I have been able to upgrade
them. So you should probably figure out what is using the space.
cd / and run this:
du -sh * | grep G
and ignore anything that is a separate mount. Once you find a
largish directory then cd into it and repeat the above command.
(replying to both of Samuel's posts)
> Your / is pretty full.
Is that all from the dnf downloading of f-30, or is there something
(prior upgrades? prior patching?) that I can clear out to make room?
it helps here's an overview of '/':
=
bash.19[/]: ls -la
total 85
dr
Agreed / filesystem is very small.
I usually make /usr its own filesystem too sometimes /var as well
It was suggested to use a ln -s command to use space in /home to store the
rpms, this is your best option
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 1:38 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 10/10/19 10:33 AM, home user wr
On 10/10/19 10:33 AM, home user wrote:
(Terry asked)
> Is home mounted on its own device/filesystem? Provide output of df -hP
I don't think so.
This a dual-boot workstation (Fedora and windows-7) with one hard drive
and no other storage.
>Provide output of df -hP
bash.12[~]: df -hP
Filesyste
(Terry asked)
> Is home mounted on its own device/filesystem? Provide output of df -hP
I don't think so.
This a dual-boot workstation (Fedora and windows-7) with one hard drive
and no other storage.
>Provide output of df -hP
bash.12[~]: df -hP
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
de
On 10/10/19 10:13 AM, home user wrote:
Error Summary
-
Disk Requirements:
At least 1274MB more space needed on the / filesystem.
bash.6[~]:
How do I safely get the needed filespace?
Am I correct in assuming that deleting files from
/home/[whatever]
would not
Is home mounted on its own device/filesystem?
Provide output of df -hP
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 1:14 PM home user wrote:
> I'm trying to upgrade from Fedora-29 to Fedora-30. Everything seems to
> have downloaded fine. The transaction check succeeded. But then I get
> this:
>
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