Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-22 Thread Mike McCarty
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 17:48:45 +1030, > Tim wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 22:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> The normal reply command is not supposed to reply to lists, just the >>> sender. >> The normal reply command is supposed to reply to whatever's written i

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-17 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 10:26 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Lists aren't supposed to mung the reply-to header as it supposed to be > for the sender to direct replies to a different address. I think you'd find it hard to prove that they're not supposed to. But whether it's desirable, or not, is ye

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 17:48:45 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 22:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > The normal reply command is not supposed to reply to lists, just the > > sender. > > The normal reply command is supposed to reply to whatever's written in > the reply-to field, if

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 19:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:44:56 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > If your mailer supports it, Reply-To-List is preferable to Reply-To-All > > on mailing lists. It uses the List-* headers to figure out the correct > > posting address. > >

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:25:02 + Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > You happen to know any mailers that support it? I've never seen that > > one before. Usually just Reply works for me because the mailing > > list has fixed up the Reply-To header, but not all lists do that. > > KMail has a "reply", "

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 16 March 2010 11:44:36 pm Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:44:56 -0430 > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > If your mailer supports it, Reply-To-List is preferable to Reply-To-All > > on mailing lists. It uses the List-* headers to figure out the correct > > posting address. >

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-17 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 22:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The normal reply command is not supposed to reply to lists, just the > sender. The normal reply command is supposed to reply to whatever's written in the reply-to field, if it exists, ignoring the from address, under those circumstances.

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 19:44:36 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:44:56 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > If your mailer supports it, Reply-To-List is preferable to Reply-To-All > > on mailing lists. It uses the List-* headers to figure out the correct > > posting addre

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-16 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 09:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:44:56 -0430 > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > >> If your mailer supports it, Reply-To-List is preferable to Reply-To-All > >> on mailing lists. It uses the List-* headers to figure out the

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-16 Thread Ed Greshko
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:44:56 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > >> If your mailer supports it, Reply-To-List is preferable to Reply-To-All >> on mailing lists. It uses the List-* headers to figure out the correct >> posting address. >> > > You happen to know any mai

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:44:56 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > If your mailer supports it, Reply-To-List is preferable to Reply-To-All > on mailing lists. It uses the List-* headers to figure out the correct > posting address. You happen to know any mailers that support it? I've never seen that

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 15:16 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > It seems strange the often messages from you have included a CC of > > fedora-l...@redhat.com. Since that list has been migrated to > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org it should not be copied or used. Is there > > somet

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ed Greshko wrote: > It seems strange the often messages from you have included a CC of > fedora-l...@redhat.com. Since that list has been migrated to > users@lists.fedoraproject.org it should not be copied or used. Is there > something in your setup that is putting in this CC automatically, or is

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Hiisi wrote: > > Yes, office computer is behind NAT either. > Thank you! > With both systems being NAT'ing firewalls where you have no controlthe only way I can see around your issue is the "auto" double ssh suggested previously. It still does what you do now...but it does it transparently.

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-10 Thread Hiisi
2010/3/10 NoSpaze : > Am Dienstag, den 09.03.2010, 19:59 -0500 schrieb Bill Davidsen: >> Hiisi wrote: >> > Dear list! >> > I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my >> > ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and >> > actually I'm doing it at the mo

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-10 Thread Hiisi
2010/3/10 Bill Davidsen : > Hiisi wrote: >> Dear list! >> I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my >> ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and >> actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better >> solution? Is there a possibi

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-09 Thread Ed Greshko
It seems strange the often messages from you have included a CC of fedora-l...@redhat.com. Since that list has been migrated to users@lists.fedoraproject.org it should not be copied or used. Is there something in your setup that is putting in this CC automatically, or is it coming from some place

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-09 Thread NoSpaze
Am Dienstag, den 09.03.2010, 19:59 -0500 schrieb Bill Davidsen: > Hiisi wrote: > > Dear list! > > I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my > > ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and > > actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is ther

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-09 Thread Bill Davidsen
Hiisi wrote: > Dear list! > I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my > ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and > actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better > solution? Is there a possibility of not using any computer at

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-09 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 09:41 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > Alternatively, they can charge me with extra money for so called > 'static IP'. I don't need it because I don't want to run WEB-server at > home. I just want to access my files at home computer from lab > computer to eliminate stresses in case I for

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-09 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:08 -0600, Rick Sewill wrote: > I have difficulty thinking why the ISP wouldn't let you configure > their NAT router to forward the ssh port to your host... If they assign users random IPs each time they connect, as many ISPs do, then they can't (easily) set up a rule to pa

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 06:41:52 am Hiisi wrote: > 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill : > > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:08 -0600, Rick Sewill wrote: > >> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:40 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > >> > 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill : > >> My first thought is to say, talk to the ISP. > >> The ISP should have a way fo

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-09 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote: > > > [egres...@misty ~]$ ssh -t f12l bin/gothere2 > egres...@192.168.0.191's password: > Last login: Tue Mar 9 18:31:24 2010 from 192.168.0.194 > [egres...@f12k ~]$ exit > logout > Connection to 192.168.0.191 closed. > Connection to f12l closed. > [egres...@misty ~]$ > > > an

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-09 Thread Ed Greshko
Hiisi wrote: > Dear list! > I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my > ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and > actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better > solution? Is there a possibility of not using any computer at

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Chris Kloiber
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Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Joerg Bergmann
Am Dienstag, den 09.03.2010, 00:17 -0600 schrieb Rick Sewill: > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:08 -0600, Rick Sewill wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:40 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > > > 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill : > > > > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:49 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > > > >> Dear list! > > > >> I would like

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Hiisi
2010/3/9 Rick Sewill : > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:08 -0600, Rick Sewill wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:40 +0300, Hiisi wrote: >> > 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill : <--SNIP--> >> > Hiisi. >> > Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ >> > -- >> > Spandex is a privilege, not a r

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Rick Sewill
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:08 -0600, Rick Sewill wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:40 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > > 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill : > > > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:49 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > > >> Dear list! > > >> I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my > > >> ISP' NAT. I

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Chris Kloiber
If that's true (they want to prevent you from running a server) then get a new ISP. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/09/2010 01:08 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:40 +0300, Hiisi wrote: 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:49 +0300, Hiisi wrote: Dear list! I would like to b

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Rick Sewill
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:40 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill : > > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:49 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > >> Dear list! > >> I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my > >> ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and > >> actuall

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Hiisi
2010/3/9 Rick Sewill : > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:49 +0300, Hiisi wrote: >> Dear list! >> I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my >> ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and >> actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Rick Sewill
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:49 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > Dear list! > I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my > ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and > actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better > solution? Is there a poss

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 03/08/2010 01:49 PM, Hiisi wrote: > Dear list! > I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my > ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and > actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better > solution? Is there a possibility of n

Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT

2010-03-08 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/08/2010 03:49 PM, Hiisi wrote: > Dear list! > I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my > ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and > actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better > solution? Is there a possibility of n