Re: might be off topic

2024-11-18 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 8:00 AM Tim via users wrote: > On Sun, 2024-11-17 at 07:37 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > > The usb wifi adaptors typically have worse driver and reliability > > issues that the original crappy internal ones. > Amazon, etc. sell lots of cheap junk, so it is important to cho

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-18 Thread bruce
Hi. One of the HP sales reps, seems to have indicated that the internal wifi for the "hp 17z-cp300" laptop would be --> "M91238-005". Is this supported by Ubuntu/kernel? How can I see that it is (if it is)? thanks On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 6:59 AM Tim via users wrote: > > On Sun, 2024-11-17 at

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-18 Thread bruce
right. but all I'm doing now is to be prepared until I get the box. thanks On Mon, Nov 18, 2024, 8:40 AM Roger Heflin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 6:32 AM bruce wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > One of the HP sales reps, seems to have indicated that the internal > > wifi for the "hp 17z-cp300"

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-18 Thread Roger Heflin
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 6:32 AM bruce wrote: > > Hi. > > One of the HP sales reps, seems to have indicated that the internal > wifi for the "hp 17z-cp300" laptop would be --> "M91238-005". Is this > supported by Ubuntu/kernel? > > How can I see that it is (if it is)? > > thanks > Note that the W

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-18 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 8:32 AM bruce wrote: > Hi. > > One of the HP sales reps, seems to have indicated that the internal > wifi for the "hp 17z-cp300" laptop would be --> "M91238-005". Is this > supported by Ubuntu/kernel? > > How can I see that it is (if it is)? > The Linux Hardware Database

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-18 Thread Roger Heflin
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 5:59 AM Tim via users wrote: > > On Sun, 2024-11-17 at 07:37 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > > The usb wifi adaptors typically have worse driver and reliability > > issues that the original crappy internal ones. > > Not to mention that having a USB dongle sticking out on a lap

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-18 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-11-17 at 07:37 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > The usb wifi adaptors typically have worse driver and reliability > issues that the original crappy internal ones. Not to mention that having a USB dongle sticking out on a laptop is prone to damage or getting lost. I'd say it's worth the e

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2024-11-17 15:51, Roger Heflin wrote: I would be surprised if any of the laptop vendors did that. There is no profit motive for them to prevent other chipsets from working and it takes extra code. There have been real cases of a laptop BIOS whitelisting certain wifi cards. It was documen

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Roger Heflin said: > I would be surprised if any of the laptop vendors did that. There is > no profit motive for them to prevent other chipsets from working and > it takes extra code. It's definitely something some have done, probably to "limit support costs" (or really, limit

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread Roger Heflin
I would be surprised if any of the laptop vendors did that. There is no profit motive for them to prevent other chipsets from working and it takes extra code. Now it would be possible that some wifi pcie cards do not work with the laptop chipset/slot wiring so you might be best picking an older

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread bruce
ps. In some of my research/youtube, HP (others??) might have a blacklist, preventing other 3rd party wifi chipsets to run. Some of the information appears to be a few years old. Is this still a potential issue? On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 9:07 AM Roger Heflin wrote: > > Years ago the only ones I fo

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread Roger Heflin
Years ago the only ones I found with drivers in linux were N300 (even slot at the time) usb devices. You would have to check the state of usb wireless now and guess if they are reliable or not. Overall replacing the card takes 10-15 minutes. There is one screw, the card in the slot and up to 2 t

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread bruce
Hi Roger! It occurred to me that years ago, I had to experiment with getting centos+wireless to work on some Dell servers. Had to get a bunch of Usb wifi modules to work. I'm wondering if these modules would still work? thoughts? thanks On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 8:37 AM Roger Heflin wrote: > > T

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread Roger Heflin
The usb wifi adaptors typically have worse driver and reliability issues that the original crappy internal ones. On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 9:48 PM bruce wrote: > > hmmm.. I would have thought most parts would have been soldered.. on the > mobo!!! > > I'll check with hp tech support. > > or at t

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread Roger Heflin
The Wifi adaptor is almost always an m2 adaptor (M2 PCIe slot) inside the laptop and is replaceable. Will's referenced laptop is I think a corporate laptop and the expensive corporate models typically come with the intel wifi adaptor. It it replaceable similar to ram, you might have to take off t

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-17 Thread bruce
Hi Roger. If I understand your reply. You're saying you purchased a wifi adapter and I guess got a USB wifi adapter?? Am I missing something? I'm looking at the HP 17t-cn300 17.3" 370$ Are you familiar with it? Oh, and where can I find information on a wifi adapter? thanks! On Sat, Nov 16

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-16 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 10:04 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 2024-11-16 18:35, bruce wrote: > > Hi Roger. If I understand your reply. You're saying you purchased a > > wifi adapter and I guess got a USB wifi adapter?? Am I missing something? > > No, you open it up and replace the internal wifi mo

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-16 Thread Will McDonald
Just anecdotally, I've been running Fedora on Lenovo X1s since 2015, 2 work-issued devices, and this latest one a personal machine, and the wifi has been rock solid. The current device is: root@fedora:~# lspci | grep -i wi-fi 00:14.3 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (rev 20) ro

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2024-11-16 19:46, bruce wrote: hmmm..  I would have thought most parts would have been soldered..  on the mobo!!! It's one of the few that generally isn't. I'll check with hp tech support. or  at the least  I could try a usb  wifi adapter.  or would that potentially conflict? You can d

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-16 Thread bruce
hmmm.. I would have thought most parts would have been soldered.. on the mobo!!! I'll check with hp tech support. or at the least I could try a usb wifi adapter. or would that potentially conflict? On Sat, Nov 16, 2024, 10:04 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2024-11-16 18:35, bruce wrote: > >

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2024-11-16 18:35, bruce wrote: Hi Roger.  If I understand your reply. You're saying you purchased a wifi adapter  and I guess got a USB wifi adapter??  Am I missing something? No, you open it up and replace the internal wifi module. Probably pcie, but you need to see what kind of socket it

Re: might be off topic

2024-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
I have a HP 17" and I replaced the wifi with an intel ax200 ($20 upgrade) as the half-assed one did not work reliably. Ie the wifi would work for a few hours/days and then stop working and require a down/up to get it working again. Most of all of the laptops will likely have the half-assed wifi

Re: might be off topic -- using digitalocean to test

2023-12-17 Thread bruce
Hi Cameron! Thanks for the reply. I've tried multiple tests.. gotten a few of the DO cust srvc techs involved, apparently escalated the issue up the chain. I've only gotten this thing to work once! It should be trivial. frustrating to put it mildly! If you can't accurately/reliably clone/dupli

Re: might be off topic -- using digitalocean to test

2023-12-17 Thread Richard Ibbotson
Hi https://docs.digitalocean.com/support/how-do-i-clone-or-make-a-copy-of-a-droplet/ Might or might not help. Works for me. -- Richard -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedora

Re: might be off topic -- using digitalocean to test

2023-12-17 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 16Dec2023 18:56, bruce wrote: Does anyone have digitalocean (DO) experience creating droplets/snapshots/cloning etc. I've only made a droplet, not cloned one. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u