Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/8/18 9:38 AM, home user via users wrote: Kevin (and everyone else), View -> Message Source and More -> View Source do the same thing as Control-U.  Unfortunately, what I get (after the header) is three blocks of seemingly random characters, not html. Changing the View -> Text Encoding se

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-08 Thread home user via users
Howard: > Thanks for the tip Bill, ... Thank Kevin, not me. Kevin (and everyone else), View -> Message Source and More -> View Source do the same thing as Control-U. Unfortunately, what I get (after the header) is three blocks of seemingly random characters, not html. Changing the View -> Tex

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-07 Thread Howard Howell
On Thu, 2018-12-06 at 21:03 -0500, Kevin Cummings wrote: > On 12/1/18 3:51 PM, home user via users wrote: > > > I'm using Thunderbird on Fedora-28; there is no "anti-virus" > > available. > > Is this safe? > > If you're using Thunderbird, then a simple control-U works > wonders. It > shows the e

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-06 Thread Kevin Cummings
On 12/1/18 3:51 PM, home user via users wrote: > I'm using Thunderbird on Fedora-28; there is no "anti-virus" available. > Is this safe? If you're using Thunderbird, then a simple control-U works wonders. It shows the email "source code" unmasking any HTML hiding the link. This is only useful i

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-05 Thread Howard Howell
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 15:20 +1030, Tim wrote: > Tim: > > > Look in the View menu, inside the Layout section, enable the Show > > > Status Bar item. > > Howard Howell: > > It shows 4 options, all checked. What did you think I would find > > there? > > Amongst other options, the one I just describ

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 10:11 -0800, Howard Howell wrote: > After the latest update I show five, too. They are all checked, but > the hover function described still doesn't work. Maybe something in my > setup or .config. I'll create a new user and see what shows up there. > > It's not a big deal,

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-04 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Look in the View menu, inside the Layout section, enable the Show >> Status Bar item. Howard Howell: > It shows 4 options, all checked. What did you think I would find > there? Amongst other options, the one I just described... If you do have a "Show Status Bar" item in the list, try un

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-04 Thread Howard Howell
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 23:12 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 10:59 -0800, Howard Howell wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 00:29 +1030, Tim wrote: > > > Allegedly, on or about 2 December 2018, Howard Howell sent: > > > > I'm still using evolution in F28 and it doesn't do that

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-04 Thread Brian Truter
Barracuda Networks provides common e-mail SPAM appliances and mail archiving appliances https://www.barracuda.com/ On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 3:24 PM home user via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Today, I received a message claiming to be from "nore...@barracuda.c

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 10:59 -0800, Howard Howell wrote: > On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 00:29 +1030, Tim wrote: > > Allegedly, on or about 2 December 2018, Howard Howell sent: > > > I'm still using evolution in F28 and it doesn't do that. If I am > > > interested, I copy the link location and paste it int

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-03 Thread Howard Howell
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 00:29 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 2 December 2018, Howard Howell sent: > > I'm still using evolution in F28 and it doesn't do that. If I am > > interested, I copy the link location and paste it into a new > > email. > > Generally I'm not interested, so it is n

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 00:29 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 2 December 2018, Howard Howell sent: > > I'm still using evolution in F28 and it doesn't do that. If I am > > interested, I copy the link location and paste it into a new email. > > Generally I'm not interested, so i

Re: e-mail security. [SOLVED]

2018-12-03 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 1 December 2018, home user via users sent: > Samuel: I understand what you said about anti-virus software. I was > incorrect about wanting it for Thunderbird. In this case, it would > be for the browser. I think you're mostly correct, but I still wish > for something to p

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-03 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 2 December 2018, Howard Howell sent: > I'm still using evolution in F28 and it doesn't do that. If I am > interested, I copy the link location and paste it into a new email. > Generally I'm not interested, so it is not too troubling. but it > would be nice if the hover fun

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-02 Thread home user via users
Sam asked: > How did you determine that this is the destination URL > That's what you see, in the HTML-formatted E-mail? I already knew about the "trick" that Ed Greshko suggests before he posted his suggestion. (But thank-you, Ed, for trying to help.) That's how I determined the destination

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 12:59 -0500, Howard Howell wrote: > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 09:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 11:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 12/2/18 10:46 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > > I'll be happy to send you an HTML message with a link whose > >

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-02 Thread Howard Howell
On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 09:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 11:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 12/2/18 10:46 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > I'll be happy to send you an HTML message with a link whose > > > destination URL seems to be > > > https://www.whitehouse.gov,

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-02 Thread AV
On Sat, 2018-12-01 at 20:45 +, finn via users wrote: > > and make sure there is a green lock on your browser address bar. Have a look at: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/11/half-of-all-phishing-sites-now-have-the-padlock/ AV ___ users mailing list

Re: e-mail security. [SOLVED]

2018-12-02 Thread Bill Oliver
Sorry for the top post, but my phone seems to insist on it using K9 mail. Anyway, I keep an old smartphone that I no longer use -- I have moved my SIM card to my current phone. It can still connect to WiFi, though. I use it to try out dodgy links. I figure there's little loss if it gets scre

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-02 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 17:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/1/18 12:51 PM, home user via users wrote: > > Ryan, > [...] > > I'm using Thunderbird on Fedora-28; there is no "anti-virus" available. > > Is this safe? > > I've never found "anti-virus" to have any use on a Linux system other > than a way

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 11:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/2/18 10:46 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I'll be happy to send you an HTML message with a link whose destination URL > > seems to be > > https://www.whitehouse.gov, but once clicked you'll wind up on > > https://pornhub.com > > FWIW,

Re: e-mail security. [SOLVED]

2018-12-01 Thread finn via users
> finn: I used Tor in this case. But in retrospect, one thing I was > concerned about was the site downloading something malicious without me > knowing it. Would Tor have protected me against that? yep, Tor browser is harden enough to protect you from these kind of attack and provide better anon

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/2/18 10:46 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I'll be happy to send you an HTML message with a link whose destination URL > seems to be > https://www.whitehouse.gov, but once clicked you'll wind up on > https://pornhub.com FWIW, with T-Bird it is easy to recognize this deception.  To see if what

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
home user via users writes: Ryan, > Please make sure that the domain name in the link's destination > URL ends in "barracuda.com". The link's destination URL starts with "https://encrypt.barracudanetworks.com/login?nid=";. The rest is a very long alpha-numeric string. How did you determine t

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
home user via users writes: Good afternoon, Today, I received a message claiming to be from "nore...@barracuda.com". Never heard of them. The message tells me to click a link in the message to view an encrypted message. Now I know that clicking links in e-mail is risky. How do I safel

Re: e-mail security. [SOLVED]

2018-12-01 Thread home user via users
I pasted the link into the Tor Browser. The only info I had to give was to set a password. Sometime last month, I used the web site for the Colorado consumer complaints office to ask where/how to file a federal complaint about national-brand canned food products sold in supermarkets being si

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/1/18 2:14 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: 4: Are you expecting an encrypted message from someone you've never heard of? I've never received one, and if I did I would expect it to be encrypted _to me_ i.e. GPG encrypted with _my_ public key. The key take here is that to retrieve it I don't have

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 01Dec2018 13:23, home user wrote: Today, I received a message claiming to be from "nore...@barracuda.com". Never heard of them. The message tells me to click a link in the message to view an encrypted message. Now I know that clicking links in e-mail is risky. How do I safely determine

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/1/18 12:51 PM, home user via users wrote: Ryan, > Please make sure that the domain name in the link's destination > URL ends in "barracuda.com". The link's destination URL starts with "https://encrypt.barracudanetworks.com/login?nid=";. The rest is a very long alpha-numeric string. If

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread home user via users
Ryan, > Please make sure that the domain name in the link's destination > URL ends in "barracuda.com". The link's destination URL starts with "https://encrypt.barracudanetworks.com/login?nid=";. The rest is a very long alpha-numeric string. I'm using Thunderbird on Fedora-28; there is no "anti-

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread finn via users
copy link and paste this link to Tor browser(if possible otherwise any browser in private window) and make sure link end with barracuda.com and there is a green lock on your browser address bar. Original Message On 2 Dec 2018, 1:53 AM, home user via users wrote: > Good afterno

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread Ryan Cunningham via users
El dic 1, 2018, a las 12:37 PM, Ryan Cunningham escribió: > [. . .] and also file a complaint with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission at > ftccomplaintassistant.gov [. . .] CORRECTION: You should instead file the complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) at ic3.gov.

Re: e-mail security.

2018-12-01 Thread Ryan Cunningham via users
> El dic 1, 2018, a las 12:23 PM, home user via users > escribió: > > Good afternoon, > > Today, I received a message claiming to be from "nore...@barracuda.com". > Never heard of them. The message tells me to click a link in the message to > view an encrypted message. Now I know that clic