Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure [Resolved]

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/23 23:09, Stephen Morris wrote: On 1/12/23 22:54, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2,own

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure [Resolved]

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/23 22:54, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0 This resu

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0 This results in the following definition in /etc/m

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-11-30 at 07:01 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > That being said, I don't know that users and/or owner options *WORK* > for network disks.   Those options likely do not also work as any disk > that has actual owners info stored on them.  They are usually used > with dos/fat/fat32 type fses

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Michael Eager
On 11/30/23 03:42, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0 This results in the following definition in /etc/m

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Javier Perez
The user used to connect on the network drive has to have write capability. Log in as that user and try to write at the directory of the mount point. On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 8:02 AM Roger Heflin wrote: > you specified "nfs" as the mount. And that should mount nfs4 with > tcp, but mounted with n

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Roger Heflin
you specified "nfs" as the mount. And that should mount nfs4 with tcp, but mounted with nfs and udp so whatever is on the other end is old and/or has tcp/nfsv4 disabled. That being said, I don't know that users and/or owner options *WORK* for network disks. Those options likely do not also work

Re: NFS Mount Problem

2022-03-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/16/22 22:16, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: Fresh install of F35. I have these lines in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.2://home/rikiheck/files /home/rikiheck/files nfs auto,nouser,rw,dev,nosuid,exec,_netdev 0 0 192.168.1.2://multi/  /mnt/mail/multi  nfs auto,user,noauto,rw,de

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Frank Elsner via users
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:19:34 + Alex Gurenko via users wrote: > Happens to the best of us :) I assume that worked for you? Yes of course. Thanks again. --Frank ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to us

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Alex Gurenko via users
Happens to the best of us :) I assume that worked for you? --- Best regards, Alex --- Original Message --- On Thursday, February 17th, 2022 at 11:07, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:46:35 + Alex Gurenko via users wrote: > > > I would think that adding `sudo` to your c

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Frank Elsner via users
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:46:35 + Alex Gurenko via users wrote: > I would think that adding `sudo` to your command would fix your problem. Oh shit, I'm getting old. --Frank ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Alex Gurenko via users
I would think that adding `sudo` to your command would fix your problem. --- Best regards, Alex --- Original Message --- On Thursday, February 17th, 2022 at 10:37, Frank Elsner via users wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:28:11 +0100 Frank Elsner via users wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > on

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Frank Elsner via users
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:28:11 +0100 Frank Elsner via users wrote: > Hello, > > on my Fedora 36 system I've the following (strange) mount error: ^^ Typo, Fedora 35 of course. --Frank ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-02-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 1/31/22 02:11, Tim via users wrote: And at some stage people are going to stop making devices look for DHCP and fallback on Avahi, they'll decide to simplify things and just follow the latest fad. You'll end up with a gadget that only does Avahi. You have this quite confused. DHCP and mdns

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-02-01 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-02-01 at 22:38 +, Barry wrote: > I thought that mDNS that Avahi implements only uses multicast on the > LAN. You could set up multicast across multiple LAN segments. > > How does that end up getting answers from the internet? > Especially when all ISPs block multicast it seems.

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-02-01 Thread Barry
> On 1 Feb 2022, at 18:59, Tim via users wrote: > > If it doesn't already know the IP, then your computer can end up trying > to query public servers outside your LAN for the answers. I thought that mDNS that Avahi implements only uses multicast on the LAN. You could set up multicast across mu

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-02-01 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 21:52 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > ".arpa" is owned, and they're able to set rules about its usage (so > home.arpa was possible). Trying to set up a new top level domain, > such as .home, would require getting a plethora of organisations to > agree to something new, and requ

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/31/22 06:27, Ed Greshko wrote: I needed no such change to my F35's host file for it to function properly.  Probably will never find out why yours did. Probably because the server configuration was modified.  Robert reported: > On the server: > [plugh-3g ~]# cat /sys/module/nfsd/paramete

CentOS 8 (was Re: NFS client names not mapping)

2022-01-31 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 31/01/2022 14:39, Tim via users wrote: >> Not long ago, 16 Nov 2021, I had one of their email press releases >> stating that the latest version of 8 had just been released and that >> it's EOL would be 31 Dec 2021. I had to check that wasn't a typo. > > I do need to see wha

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 31/01/2022 22:19, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/30/22 11:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 31/01/2022 00:13, Robert Nichols wrote: FINALLY!! I can get it all to work by putting "fedora.local" in /etc/hostname _and_ editing  /etc/hosts to have "fedora.local" as the _first_ name for 127.0.0.1 . I ins

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/30/22 11:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 31/01/2022 00:13, Robert Nichols wrote: FINALLY!! I can get it all to work by putting "fedora.local" in /etc/hostname _and_ editing  /etc/hosts to have "fedora.local" as the _first_ name for 127.0.0.1 . I installed a Centos7 system and during the insta

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 20:41 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Linux had an interesting quirk of using ".localdomain" as its LAN > domain (at least on the few distros I've played with). Microsoft may > have used .mshome or .home (as my router uses, actually it also uses > .router, not that it tells you

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 16:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I don't know much about Avahi/Bonjour/mDNS/ZeroConf I think it is/was > a way to shoehorn Linux into some Windows environments. I hardly had > to deal with that. > > I also didn't deal much with SMB as only ever had a couple of Windows > syst

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 31/01/2022 14:39, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 13:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: I installed a Centos7 system and during the install process called it fedora.local. By default this was placed in etc/hostname. Wasn't ".local" and Avahi/Bonjour/mDNS/ZeroConf non-traditional DHCP an

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-30 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 13:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I installed a Centos7 system and during the install process called it > fedora.local. By default this was placed in etc/hostname. Wasn't ".local" and Avahi/Bonjour/mDNS/ZeroConf non-traditional DHCP and DNS thing? Does it still require diffe

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 31/01/2022 00:13, Robert Nichols wrote: FINALLY!! I can get it all to work by putting "fedora.local" in /etc/hostname _and_ editing  /etc/hosts to have "fedora.local" as the _first_ name for 127.0.0.1 . I installed a Centos7 system and during the install process called it fedora.local.  By

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-30 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/30/22 1:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 30/01/2022 12:36, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/29/22 8:25 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/29/22 17:20, Ed Greshko wrote: In the initial posting by Robert he wrote: "I have no nfs-idmapd service running" Right, but on recent kernels, the client doesn't

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/29/22 20:36, Robert Nichols wrote: If I could find any way to set the client's domain name, I would. Nothing I try has any effect on the domain name. When I try to set a FQDN with hostnamectl, then "hostnamectl" (with no arguments) shows that FQDN as the static hostname, but "hostname --fq

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 30/01/2022 12:36, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/29/22 8:25 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/29/22 17:20, Ed Greshko wrote: In the initial posting by Robert he wrote: "I have no nfs-idmapd service running" Right, but on recent kernels, the client doesn't use rpc.idmapd, it uses "nfsidmap".  T

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/29/22 8:25 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/29/22 17:20, Ed Greshko wrote: In the initial posting by Robert he wrote: "I have no nfs-idmapd service running" Right, but on recent kernels, the client doesn't use rpc.idmapd, it uses "nfsidmap".  The fact that rpc.idmapd isn't running doesn'

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/29/22 17:20, Ed Greshko wrote: In the initial posting by Robert he wrote: "I have no nfs-idmapd service running" Right, but on recent kernels, the client doesn't use rpc.idmapd, it uses "nfsidmap".  The fact that rpc.idmapd isn't running doesn't really tell us anything. "all users a

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 30/01/2022 07:44, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/28/22 23:32, Ed Greshko wrote: But I do have nfs-idmapd.service with "Domain = localdomain" in its configuration file. If I change that to "Domain = local" and restart nfs-idmapd.service I do get [root@fedora ~]# nfsidmap -d local But everything

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/28/22 23:32, Ed Greshko wrote: But I do have nfs-idmapd.service with "Domain = localdomain" in its configuration file. If I change that to "Domain = local" and restart nfs-idmapd.service I do get [root@fedora ~]# nfsidmap -d local But everything works no matter what the setting https

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 29/01/2022 13:44, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/28/22 06:08, Robert Nichols wrote: Where does Fedora get its domain name? When I type "hostname --fqdn" I get "hostname: Name or service not known". The CentOS 8 VM apparently gets its domain name from the /etc/hostname file, which contains "cent

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 29/01/2022 11:44, Robert Nichols wrote: No change: [fedora ~]# hostnamectl hostname fedora.local [fedora ~]# hostnamectl  Static hostname: fedora.local    Icon name: computer-vm  Chassis: vm   Machine ID: 6e701e7fa0dc4996984b6509b40eb940  Boot ID: 256c0a3fa9dd4b88bd611

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/28/22 06:08, Robert Nichols wrote: Where does Fedora get its domain name? When I type "hostname --fqdn" I get "hostname: Name or service not known". The CentOS 8 VM apparently gets its domain name from the /etc/hostname file, which contains "cent9-vm.local". This does not appear to work in

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/27/22 9:13 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:10:53 -0600 Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/26/22 7:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: What does the entry for that filesystem in /proc/mounts look like?  It should have negotiated mount options that shed some light.

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/28/22 8:53 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/01/2022 22:08, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/28/22 1:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 26/01/2022 00:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs a

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/01/2022 22:53, Ed Greshko wrote: Example: For the host that I mentioned I used "hostnamectl f35ser.greshko.com" Correction. hostnamectl hostname f35ser.greshko.com Too late in my day. -- Did 황준호 die? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/01/2022 22:08, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/28/22 1:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 26/01/2022 00:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client.

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/28/22 1:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 26/01/2022 00:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form: "

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/01/2022 00:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form: "name '@local' does not map into dom

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-27 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:10:53 -0600 Robert Nichols wrote: > On 1/26/22 7:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> What does the entry for that filesystem in /proc/mounts look like?  It >> should have negotiated mount options that shed some light. >> Maybe add the "sec=sys" mount option to the clien

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-27 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/26/22 7:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/25/22 08:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form:

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/25/22 08:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form: "name '@local' does not map into domain

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-26 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:35:27 -0600 Robert Nichols wrote: > In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem > are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the > same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form: > > "name '@local

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
Since some Fedora33 update in the last couple of weeks the problem has gone away. I haven't changed anything as far as I am aware. One change is that the kernel moved from 5.13.x to 5.14.x ... Terry On 21/10/2021 23:36, Reon Beon via users wrote: https://release-monitoring.org/project/2081/ We

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-21 Thread Reon Beon via users
https://release-monitoring.org/project/2081/ Well it is a pre-release version. 2.5.5.rc3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedo

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-06 Thread Terry Barnaby
Hi Roger, Thanks for looking. I will try NFS v3 with my latency tests running. I did try NFS v3 before and I "think" there were still desktop lockups but for a much shorter time. But this is just a feeling. Current kernel on both systems is: 5.13.19-100.fc33.x86_64. If I find the time, I will

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-05 Thread Roger Heflin
That network looks fine to me I would try v3. I have had bad luck many times with v4 on a variety of different kernels. If the code is recovering from something related to a bug 45 seconds might be right to decide something that was working is no longer working. I am not sure any amount of debu

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-05 Thread Terry Barnaby
sar -n EDEV reports all 0's all around then. There are somerxdrop/s of 0.02 occasionally on eno1 through the day (about 20 of these with minute based sampling). Today ifconfig lists 39 dropped RX packets out of 2357593. Not sure why there are some dropped packets. "ethtool -S eno1" doesn't seem

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-04 Thread Roger Heflin
Since it is recovering from it, maybe it is losing packets inside the network, what does "sar -n DEV" and "sar -n EDEV" look like during that time on both client seeing the pause and the server. EDEV is typically all zeros unless something is lost. if something is being lost and it matches the ti

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-04 Thread Terry Barnaby
and iostats: 04/10/21 10:51:14 avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle   2.09    0.00    1.56    0.02    0.00   96.33 Device    r/s rkB/s   rrqm/s  %rrqm r_await rareq-sz w/s wkB/s   wrqm/s  %wrqm w_await wareq-sz d/s dkB/s   drqm/s  %drqm d

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-04 Thread Terry Barnaby
My disklatencytest showed a longish (14 secs) NFS file system directoty/stat lookup again today on a desktop: 2021-10-04T05:26:19 0.069486 0.069486 0.000570 /home/... 2021-10-04T05:28:19 0.269743 0.538000 0.001019 /home/... 2021-10-04T09:48:00 1.492158 0.003314   

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-03 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 04/10/2021 00:51, Roger Heflin wrote: With 10 minute samples anything that happened gets averaged enough that even the worst event is almost impossible to see. Sar will report the same as date ie local time.  And a 12:51 event would be in the 13:00 sample (started at about 12:50 and ended a

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-03 Thread Roger Heflin
With 10 minute samples anything that happened gets averaged enough that even the worst event is almost impossible to see. Sar will report the same as date ie local time. And a 12:51 event would be in the 13:00 sample (started at about 12:50 and ended at 1300). What I do see is that during that w

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-03 Thread Terry Barnaby
45 second event happened at: 2021-10-02T11:51:02 UTC. Not sure what sar time is based on (maybe local time BST  rather than UTC so would be 2021-10-02T12:51:02 BST. Continuing info ... sar -n NFSD on the server 11:00:01    24.16  0.00 24.16  0.00 24.16  0.00  0.00

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-03 Thread Terry Barnaby
45 second event happened at: 2021-10-02T11:51:02 UTC. Not sure what sar time is based on (maybe local time BST  rather than UTC so would be 2021-10-02T12:51:02 BST. "sar -d" on the server: 11:50:02   dev8-0  4.67  0.01 46.62 0.00  9.99  0.12 14.03  5.75 11:50:0

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-02 Thread Roger Heflin
You might retest with nfsv3, the code handling v3 should be significantly different since v3 is stateless and does not maintain long-term connections. And if the long-term connection had some sort of issue then 45 seconds may be how long it takes to figure that out and re-initiate the connection.

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-02 Thread Roger Heflin
What did the sar -d look like for the 2 minutes before and 2 minutes afterward? If it is slow or not may depend on if the directory/file fell out of cache and had to be reread from the disk. I have also seen really large dirs take a really long time to find, but typically that takes thousands of

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-02 Thread Terry Barnaby
I am getting more sure this is an NFS/networking issue rather than an issue with disks in the server. I created a small test program that given a directory finds a random file in a random directory three levels below, opens it and reads up to a block (512 Bytes) of data from it and times how l

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 16:20, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > Thanks for the info, I am using MDraid. There are no "mddevice" messages > in /var/log/messages and smartctl -a lists no errors on any of the > disks. The disks are about 3 years old, I change them in servers between > 3 and 4 years old. > Wh

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Roger Heflin
You need to replace mddevice with the name of your mddevice. probably md0. 3-5 years is about when they start to go. I have 2-3TB wd-reds sitting on the floor because their correctable/offline uncorr kept happening and blipping my storage (a few second pause). I even removed the disks from the

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 01/10/2021 19:05, Roger Heflin wrote: it will show latency. await is average iotime in ms, and %util is calced based in await and iops/sec. So long as your turn sar down to 1 minute samples it should tell you which of the 2 disks had higher await/util%.With a 10 minute sample the 40sec p

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Roger Heflin
it will show latency. await is average iotime in ms, and %util is calced based in await and iops/sec. So long as your turn sar down to 1 minute samples it should tell you which of the 2 disks had higher await/util%.With a 10 minute sample the 40sec pause may get spread out across enough iops

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 01/10/2021 13:31, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: Trivial thoughts from reading this thread. Please don't take the triviality as an insult. Perhaps the best way to determine if the problem is from a software update is to downgrade likely packages. In the case of the kernel, you can just boot an o

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 30/09/2021 19:27, Roger Heflin wrote: Raid0, so there is no redundancy on the data? And what kind of underlying hard disks? The desktop drives will try for a long time (ie a minute or more) to read any bad blocks. Those disks will not report an error unless it gets to the default os timeou

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
Trivial thoughts from reading this thread. Please don't take the triviality as an insult. Perhaps the best way to determine if the problem is from a software update is to downgrade likely packages. In the case of the kernel, you can just boot an older one (assuming that an old enough one is s

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Roger Heflin
Raid0, so there is no redundancy on the data? And what kind of underlying hard disks? The desktop drives will try for a long time (ie a minute or more) to read any bad blocks. Those disks will not report an error unless it gets to the default os timeout, or it hits the disk firmware timeout. T

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:50:01 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: > Yes, problems often occur due to you having done something, but I am > pretty sure nothing has changed apart from Fedora updates. But hardware is sneaky. It waits for you to install software updates, the breaks itself to make you think th

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 30/09/2021 11:42, Roger Heflin wrote: On mine when I first access the NFS volume it takes 5-10 seconds for the disks to spin up.  Mine will spin down later in the day if little or nothing is going on and I will get another delay. I have also seen delays if a disk gets bad blocks and correct

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 30/09/2021 11:32, Ed Greshko wrote: On 30/09/2021 16:35, Terry Barnaby wrote: This is a very lightly loaded system with just 3 users ATM and very little going on across the network (just editing code files etc). The problem occurred again yesterday. For about 10 minutes my KDE desktop locke

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Roger Heflin
On mine when I first access the NFS volume it takes 5-10 seconds for the disks to spin up. Mine will spin down later in the day if little or nothing is going on and I will get another delay. I have also seen delays if a disk gets bad blocks and corrects them. About 1/2 of time that does have a m

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 30/09/2021 16:35, Terry Barnaby wrote: This is a very lightly loaded system with just 3 users ATM and very little going on across the network (just editing code files etc). The problem occurred again yesterday. For about 10 minutes my KDE desktop locked up in 20 second bursts and then the pr

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
Thanks for the feedback everyone. This is a very lightly loaded system with just 3 users ATM and very little going on across the network (just editing code files etc). The problem occurred again yesterday. For about 10 minutes my KDE desktop locked up in 20 second bursts and then the problem w

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-26 Thread Roger Heflin
Make sure you have sar/sysstat enabled and changed to do 1 minute samples. sar -d will show disk perf. If one of the disks "blips" at the firmware level (working on a hard to read block maybe), the util% on that device will be significantly higher than all other disks so will stand out. Then you

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-26 Thread Jamie Fargen
Are there network switches under your control? It sounds similar to what happens when MTU on the systems MTU do not match or one system MTU is set above the value on the switch ports. Next time the issue occurs use ping with the do not fragment flag. ex $ ping -m DO -s 8972 ip.address This exampl

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 10:26:19 -0300 George N. White III wrote: > If you have cron jobs that use a lot of network bandwidth it may work > fine until some network issue causing lots of retransmits bogs it down. Which is why you should check the dumb stuff first! Has a critter chewed on the ethernet

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-26 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 26 Sept 2021 at 01:44, Tim via users wrote: > On Sat, 2021-09-25 at 06:04 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > in the last month or so all of the client computers are getting KDE > > GUI lockups every few hours that last for around 40 secs. > > Might one of them have a cron job that's scouring

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-25 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2021-09-25 at 06:04 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > in the last month or so all of the client computers are getting KDE > GUI lockups every few hours that last for around 40 secs. Might one of them have a cron job that's scouring the network? e.g. locate databasing -- uname -rsvp Linux

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-25 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 02:04, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Hi, > > I use NFS mount (defaults so V4) /home directories with a simple server > over Gigabit Ethernet all running Fedora33. This has been working fine > for 25+ years through various Fedora versions. However in the last month > or so all of

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-25 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 25/09/2021 09:00, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/09/2021 14:07, Terry Barnaby wrote: A few questions. 1.  Are you saying your NFS server HW is the same for the past 25 years.  Couldn't have been all Fedora, right? No ( :) ) was using previous Linux and Unix systems before then. Certainly OS v

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 25/09/2021 14:07, Terry Barnaby wrote: A few questions. 1.  Are you saying your NFS server HW is the same for the past 25 years.   Couldn't have been all Fedora, right? No ( :) ) was using previous Linux and Unix systems before then. Certainly OS versions and hardware has changed over th

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-24 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 25/09/2021 06:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/09/2021 13:04, Terry Barnaby wrote: Hi, I use NFS mount (defaults so V4) /home directories with a simple server over Gigabit Ethernet all running Fedora33. This has been working fine for 25+ years through various Fedora versions. However in the la

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 25/09/2021 13:04, Terry Barnaby wrote: Hi, I use NFS mount (defaults so V4) /home directories with a simple server over Gigabit Ethernet all running Fedora33. This has been working fine for 25+ years through various Fedora versions. However in the last month or so all of the client computer

Re: NFS mount

2021-09-05 Thread Dave Close
Roger Heflin wrote: >Fedora 33 shows this on recent kernels: ># CONFIG_NFS_V2 is not set >So disabled in the kernel seems likely for 34 also. > >You would have to rebuild a kernel with that set to =m and boot that >for v2 to work. Thanks. You are absolutely correct. My first thought was that the

Re: NFS mount

2021-09-04 Thread Roger Heflin
grep -i nfs /boot/config- should tell you what is configured in the kernel. Fedora 33 shows this on recent kernels: grep -i nfs /boot/config-5.11.22-100.fc32.x86_64 | grep -i v2 # CONFIG_NFS_V2 is not set CONFIG_NFSD_V2_ACL=y So disabled in the kernel seems likely for 34 also. You would hav

Re: NFS mount

2021-09-04 Thread Dave Close
Historical background below. I have now confirmed that the NAS device NFS server is working properly. I am able to mount it from a Raspberry Pi running kernel 5.4.72-v7+ #1356 and nfs-common/oldstable,now 1:1.3.4-2.5+deb10u1. I still cannot mount it from Fedora 34 running nfs-utils-2.5.4-0. The er

Re: NFS mount

2021-08-31 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 31Aug2021 18:43, Stephen Morris wrote: >I have an old nas that is nfs version 1, and in order to mount it in >Fedora 34 I have to specify vers=3. Vers=1 or vers=2 wouldn't work for >me, the same may apply to your device. We've a PVR here and need to use "-o nolock" to mount our media server

Re: NFS mount

2021-08-31 Thread Stephen Morris
On 30/8/21 13:45, Dave Close wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: The NAS only works with NFS v2. If it is that old, you may need "proto=udp" as well as "vers=2" in the mount options. I've tried it both ways. The -v output shows which protocol gets used. Joe Zeff wrote: I've even tried with my firew

Re: NFS mount

2021-08-29 Thread Dave Close
Tom Horsley wrote: >> The NAS only works with NFS v2. > >If it is that old, you may need "proto=udp" as well as "vers=2" >in the mount options. I've tried it both ways. The -v output shows which protocol gets used. Joe Zeff wrote: >> I've even tried with my firewall disabled but no luck. > >Two

Re: NFS mount

2021-08-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 8/29/21 7:07 PM, Dave Close wrote: I've even tried with my firewall disabled but no luck. Two questions: first, why did you suspect the firewall and second, have you re-enabled it? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: NFS mount

2021-08-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 18:07:06 -0700 Dave Close wrote: > The NAS only works with NFS v2. If it is that old, you may need "proto=udp" as well as "vers=2" in the mount options. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an e

Re: [SOLVED?] Re: NFS Problems in Fedora 33

2020-11-30 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 4:20 AM Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 11/26/20 3:26 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> You have to be careful when using "fsid=0". >> >> 1) If you don't set it for any of the shares: >> >> a) "/" is the "fsid=0" filesystem by default (this wasn't the >> case in early nfsv4 implemen

Re: [SOLVED?] Re: NFS Problems in Fedora 33

2020-11-27 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 11/26/20 3:26 PM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 11:41 PM Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: This problem seems to have been solved. I believe that the issue was a misconfiguration of the NFS server. I had: /home/rikiheck/files 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,fsid=0) /home/nancy/fil

Re: [SOLVED?] Re: NFS Problems in Fedora 33

2020-11-26 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 11:41 PM Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > > This problem seems to have been solved. I believe that the issue > was a misconfiguration of the NFS server. I had: > > /home/rikiheck/files 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,fsid=0) > /home/nancy/files192.168.1.0/24(rw,sy

Re: [SOLVED?] Re: NFS Problems in Fedora 33

2020-11-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 25, 2020, at 17:41, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > > But /home/rikiheck/files was an ordinary directory that I want to export, not > the root for NFSv4. It was being mounted as NFSv3 (trying to mount with nfs4 > would fail). But I'm guessing that it was being treated inconsistently > be

Re: [SOLVED?] Re: NFS Problems in Fedora 33

2020-11-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/11/2020 06:40, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: This problem seems to have been solved. I believe that the issue was a misconfiguration of the NFS server. I had: /home/rikiheck/files 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,fsid=0) /home/nancy/files 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check) /h

[SOLVED?] Re: NFS Problems in Fedora 33

2020-11-25 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
This problem seems to have been solved. I believe that the issue was a misconfiguration of the NFS server. I had: /home/rikiheck/files 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,fsid=0) /home/nancy/files 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check) /home/photos 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check

Re: NFS Problems in Fedora 33

2020-11-25 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 11/25/20 4:28 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: On 11/25/20 12:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/11/2020 22:51, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: I can mount fine. The problem is that various programs (LyX, LibreOffice) freeze when attempting to open files on those filesystems. In LyX, I was able

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