Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-28 Thread Aaron Gray
On 27 September 2011 18:30, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Aaron Gray > wrote: > > This is well worth looking at, it was GNU SIP Communicator :- > > http://jitsi.org/ > > It supports lots of formats, including Facebook, Google and Skype I > believe. > > Somehow I d

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 27 Sep 2011, at 13:00, Marko Vojinovic wrote > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Aaron Gray > wrote: >> This is well worth looking at, it was GNU SIP Communicator :- >> http://jitsi.org/ >> It supports lots of formats, including Facebook, Google and Skype I believe. > > Somehow I doubt S

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Michael, On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Google did not package the RPM properly (which is typical of them). The > RPM calls for "lib4l2.so.0" in a non-arch specific manor, so yum > installs both arches of the libv4l package. It never uses the 32-bit > library. >

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread Darlene Wallach
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 10:33 -0700, Darlene Wallach wrote: >> In regards to "Call Phone" on gmail ... >> >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Aaron Konstam >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 07:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >> Timothy

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 10:33 -0700, Darlene Wallach wrote: > In regards to "Call Phone" on gmail ... > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 07:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> Timothy Murphy writes: > >> > >> > Pardon my ignorance, but how does one

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread Darlene Wallach
In regards to "Call Phone" on gmail ... On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 07:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Timothy Murphy writes: >> >> > Pardon my ignorance, but how does one use Google Chat? >> > >> > I've downloaded google-talkplugin_current_i3

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Aaron Gray wrote: > This is well worth looking at, it was GNU SIP Communicator :- >     http://jitsi.org/ > It supports lots of formats, including Facebook, Google and Skype I believe. Somehow I doubt Skype is supported. ;-) Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread Aaron Gray
Hi Guys, This is well worth looking at, it was GNU SIP Communicator :- http://jitsi.org/ It supports lots of formats, including Facebook, Google and Skype I believe. Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 07:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Timothy Murphy writes: > > > Pardon my ignorance, but how does one use Google Chat? > > > > I've downloaded google-talkplugin_current_i386.rpm > > from , > > and installed it with "sudo yum localinstall".

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Timothy Murphy writes: Pardon my ignorance, but how does one use Google Chat? I've downloaded google-talkplugin_current_i386.rpm from , and installed it with "sudo yum localinstall". Now what ...? Log into your Gmail account. Send an invite to a contact. Wai

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-27 Thread Timothy Murphy
Pardon my ignorance, but how does one use Google Chat? I've downloaded google-talkplugin_current_i386.rpm from , and installed it with "sudo yum localinstall". Now what ...? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-28423

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
suvayu ali wrote: > Not quite: Yes, quite. Please don't snip my e-mails to exclude vital information. $ ldd /opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgoogletalk64.so linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x76562000) libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x7f48f6ead000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/l

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-26 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:34:34PM +0200, suvayu ali wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > Native Linux 64-bit binaries are available. > > Not quite: > > $ sudo yum history info 337 > ... > Command Line : update google-talkplugin > ... > Packages Altered: >

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 23:58, Fernando Cassia wrote: > That´s a popular myth. A SIP voip call goes computer-to-computer or > device-to-device over the IP cloud. Let me rephrase "can go..." voipstuff.net.au/IPDialling.html FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:58, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > > * Call quality - Skype's call quality is somewhat better than Google's > VoIP offerings in my experience. That´s a popular myth. A SIP voip call goes computer-to-computer or device-to-device over the IP cloud. "Voip quality" was an issue

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Néstor writes: « HTML content follows » I use Google Voice all the time and I have use Google chat.  When you make a call with  Google Chat you can actually see the credit you have in Google Voice.  I actually made a  phone call from the Phillipines to San Diego using Google Chat and it was

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread Néstor
I use Google Voice all the time and I have use Google chat. When you make a call with Google Chat you can actually see the credit you have in Google Voice. I actually made a phone call from the Phillipines to San Diego using Google Chat and it was free. I do not know how. I do know that phone c

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 09:32 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > >> As I understand it, there seem to be 2 ways to use skype, ekiga, Bosix, > >> etc and probably google. > >> skype to skype, and skype to telephone. > >> skype to skype is free of ch

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: >> Can someone explain this? > > If you look at this chart, calls to US and Canada are free. > You are correct if you are connecting from the US/Canada - but if you connect from elsewhere there is a charge even for calls to the US/Canada - eg it

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> As I understand it, there seem to be 2 ways to use skype, ekiga, Bosix, >> etc and probably google. >> skype to skype,  and skype to telephone. >> skype to skype is free of charge, that's the one I refer to. >> >> For skype to telephone yo

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread Claude Jones
On 09/25/2011 09:20 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > That is one of the things I don't understand. Google has not asked me for > money > to telephone. I live in San Antonio and I called my son in Chicago. I > have no account with Google and as far as I can see the call was free. > Can someone explain t

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
> As I understand it, there seem to be 2 ways to use skype, ekiga, Bosix, > etc and probably google. > skype to skype, and skype to telephone. > skype to skype is free of charge, that's the one I refer to. > > For skype to telephone you pay skype in advance by opening an account > and can make

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-24 Thread Roger
On 25/09/11 00:16, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 09:23 +1000, Roger wrote: >>> How are Skype users addressed? I suppose I am OK if I know their >>> telephone number. >> Skype, for me on Unbuntu and Fedora took about a few seconds to install. >> Read the skype instructions for how to

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-24 Thread Robert Nichols
On 09/24/2011 09:16 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > The phone company is glad to give me peoples phone numbers, so that > seems like a better way to reach people. Skype has a good lookup feature that allows you to find Skype IDs by entering either a real name or an email address. The lookup returns al

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
That is true since I received the message in my inbox. I an including the contents below On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 13:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > You appear to have sent this only to me and not to the list. > > > poc > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Aaron Konstam > wrote: >

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 09:23 +1000, Roger wrote: > > How are Skype users addressed? I suppose I am OK if I know their > > telephone number. > Skype, for me on Unbuntu and Fedora took about a few seconds to install. > Read the skype instructions for how to use. > To use, you need the skype addresses

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-24 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Native Linux 64-bit binaries are available. Not quite: $ sudo yum history info 337 ... Command Line : update google-talkplugin ... Packages Altered: Updated google-talkplugin-2.2.2.0-1.x86_64 Update

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Roger
> How are Skype users addressed? I suppose I am OK if I know their > telephone number. Skype, for me on Unbuntu and Fedora took about a few seconds to install. Read the skype instructions for how to use. To use, you need the skype addresses of the people you wish to contact, from memory there are

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 16:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 15:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 09:43 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > > > computer. I recently looked at Google

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 13:19 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > > Is the Google chat code native or is in running under WINE? And, if so, > > do they have a native 64-bit version yet rather than requiring 32-bit > > libraries? > > Native Linux 64-bit binaries are availabl

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 15:15 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 09:43 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > > is really easy to install

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 13:10 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 09:43:33AM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > > is really easy to ins

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 10:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > On 09/23/2011 09:43 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > > is really easy to install and use (at least

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 09:43 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by not us

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/23/2011 11:31 AM, Weather wrote: > Sounds like a very 2010 thing to do... I think we now only have voip for > customer helpdesk and the switchboard operators. The rest are only on cell > phone. The price war between cell phone operators has made it the best > solution for us. I found that

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Weather
Joe Zeff > >And then, of course, there's the most wonderful thing about converting >your whole office to VOIP: nobody can call the sysadmin to complain >that >the LAN's down. Sounds like a very 2010 thing to do... I think we now only have voip for customer helpdesk and the switchboard opera

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > Is the Google chat code native or is in running under WINE? And, if so, > do they have a native 64-bit version yet rather than requiring 32-bit > libraries? Native Linux 64-bit binaries are available. $ rpm -q google-talkplugin google-talkplugin-2.3.2.0-1.x86_64 $ file /

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/23/2011 08:05 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > The ability to talk to Skype users. Until there's a universal bridge, > you'll need to use the system that the people on the other side want to use. This isn't the first time that's happened. In the early days of the telephone you could only talk to

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/23/2011 07:58 AM, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > * Call quality - Skype's call quality is somewhat better than Google's > VoIP offerings in my experience. But, if Google's quality meets your > requirements, then by all means use it :). And then, of course, there's the most wonderful thing about

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 09:43:33AM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by

Re: Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Fulko Hew
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Martin Airs wrote: > On Friday 23 Sep 2011 11:11:19 Fulko Hew wrote: > > > > The ability to call POTS almost anywhere in the world. > > You can do that now with google chat :) > Thanks, I (happily) stand corrected! I'll now have to install their/the library, and

Re: Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Martin Airs
On Friday 23 Sep 2011 11:11:19 Fulko Hew wrote: > > The ability to call POTS almost anywhere in the world. You can do that now with google chat :) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Fulko Hew
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by not usi

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/23/2011 09:43 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by not using Skype?

Re: GGoogle chat vs Skype

2011-09-23 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 09/23/2011 09:43 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have long been intrigued wit having Skype-like capabilities for my > computer. I recently looked at Google Chat which seems to be similar and > is really easy to install and use (at least on my F14 laptop). > > What am I missing by not using Skype?