Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-08 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
Upon looking back to when I first started finding an interest in Linux, the biggest "problem" I had?..was deciding WHICH distro to install! There were TONS of them!from the Debian & Debian-based, to the Gnome styles, to the KDE'sLXDE'sLXFCE etc. I finally figured out that KDE wa

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.07.2012 16:47, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On 07/07/12 14:14, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> The tread is about _Fedora_ >> >> you refuse to understand what i am saying >> >> Fedora is NOT relevant because the point is how to run >> ANY FREE operating system (Linux, BSD, OpenSolaris, Whatever) > > T

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-08 Thread Roger
On 08/07/12 19:09, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 08.07.2012, Roger wrote: Microsoft caused Linux to happen. Linus Torvalds caused Linux to happen, as a hobby and being disappointed with minix.. Although, I reckon what came as a result of Linus Torvalds work happened through devs getting together whi

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-08 Thread Roger
On 08/07/12 19:09, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 08.07.2012, Roger wrote: Microsoft caused Linux to happen. Linus Torvalds caused Linux to happen, as a hobby and being disappointed with minix.. Oops. Soribouthat. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-08 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 08.07.2012, Roger wrote: > Microsoft caused Linux to happen. Linus Torvalds caused Linux to happen, as a hobby and being disappointed with minix.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-08 Thread Roger
On 08/07/12 15:52, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: On 07/08/2012 01:13 AM, Roger wrote: My opinion. so NO microsoft is not in any position to control the x86 market I have been watching this thread with interest. Conversation to date raises, for me, a number of points. 1. None of this would be

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-07 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
On 07/08/2012 01:13 AM, Roger wrote: My opinion. so NO microsoft is not in any position to control the x86 market I have been watching this thread with interest. Conversation to date raises, for me, a number of points. 1. None of this would be necessary if Microsoft produced quality, secure

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-07 Thread Roger
My opinion. so NO microsoft is not in any position to control the x86 market I have been watching this thread with interest. Conversation to date raises, for me, a number of points. 1. None of this would be necessary if Microsoft produced quality, secure operating systems in the first instanc

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-07 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
On 07/07/2012 11:37 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: so NO microsoft is not in any position to control the x86 market if they try federal commissions and the european union are the first rember them on their own history (maybe you are not ^(remember) aware of because too young) http://en.w

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-07 Thread Antonio Olivares
> so NO microsoft is not in any position to control the x86 > market > if they try federal commissions and the european union are > the > first rember them on their own history (maybe you are not ^(remember) > aware of > because too young) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v.

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/07/12 14:14, Reindl Harald wrote: The tread is about _Fedora_ you refuse to understand what i am saying Fedora is NOT relevant because the point is how to run ANY FREE operating system (Linux, BSD, OpenSolaris, Whatever) To you maybe: The OP asked as per Subject:Fedora 18 and UEF

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.07.2012 14:51, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On 07/07/12 13:48, Reindl Harald wrote: there is a big enough market with customers which will make the pressure to the manufacturers to produce recent hardware where you can urn off secure boot >>> >>> Verified Statistics please? >> >>

Re: Fedora 18 and UEFI onlist

2012-07-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/07/12 13:48, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.07.2012 14:45, schrieb Frank Murphy: On 07/07/12 13:34, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.07.2012 14:19, schrieb Frank Murphy: On 07/07/12 12:58, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: I think we are bigger enough to say no and buy only hardware compatible. Not