Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-16 Thread Tom H
>> You are supposed to set this up right after the install not >> after the GUI goes AWOL! > Guess you missed my other replies on this thread about that. Had forgotten them... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorap

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Mikkel wrote: > On 03/12/2010 02:55 PM, Patrick > Bartek wrote: > > > > That works only if the GUI is working. What do you do > when X is > "hung" part way through start up, and you want to drop back > to the > terminal to see if you can fix it or scope the problem? No > Ctr

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-14 Thread Mikkel
On 03/12/2010 02:55 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > That works only if the GUI is working. What do you do when X is "hung" part way through start up, and you want to drop back to the terminal to see if you can fix it or scope the problem? No Ctrl-Alt-Del enabled to do that. Real smart. > > For ever

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Tom H wrote: > >> You can enable > ctrl+alt+backspace through the GUI: > >> System - Preferences - Keyboard - Layout - Layout > Options > > > That works only if the GUI is working. > > You are supposed to set this up right after the install not > after the > GUI goes AWOL!

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Tom H wrote: > >> Upstream, either Xorg or > Gnome. One of the reasons, IIRC, > >> was that > >> some people are using/could use that key combo by > mistake. > > > Using that reasoning, Ctrl-Alt-Del should be turned > off, too.  That combo is even more dangerous.  On my > ke

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-13 Thread Tom H
>> Upstream, either Xorg or Gnome. One of the reasons, IIRC, >> was that >> some people are using/could use that key combo by mistake. > Using that reasoning, Ctrl-Alt-Del should be turned off, too.  That combo is > even more dangerous.  On my keyboard, 'Backspace' and 'Del' are right next to >

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-13 Thread Tom H
>> You can enable ctrl+alt+backspace through the GUI: >> System - Preferences - Keyboard - Layout - Layout Options > That works only if the GUI is working. You are supposed to set this up right after the install not after the GUI goes AWOL! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Thu, 3/11/10, David Bartmess wrote: > On 3/10/2010 10:43 PM, Chris Smart > wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek  > wrote: > >    > >> What genius decided that?  Stupid.  Are > you sure?  That little three-key combo has gotten me > out of more than a few X-server lock

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 01:44 -0500, > Tom H wrote: > > Upstream, either Xorg or Gnome. One of the reasons, > IIRC, was that > > some people are using/could use that key combo by > mistake. > > How?  How could you accidentally press that awkward > key combination?

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Tom H wrote: > >> What genius decided that? > Stupid. Are you sure? > >> That little three-key combo has gotten me out of > more than a few > >> X-server lockups with Fedora due to > misconfiguration by the installer. > > > Upstream X.Org. I'm sure if you search it, you will

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Tom H wrote: > >> Fedora IA32 comes with PAE > enabled by default. > >> Still, it's better using AA64; also > ctrl+alt+backspace is > >> disabled by default. > > > What genius decided that?  Stupid.  Are you sure? >  That little three-key combo has gotten me out of more than

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Chris Smart wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, > Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > > > What genius decided that?  Stupid.  Are you sure? >  That little three-key combo has gotten me out of more than > a few X-server lockups with Fedora due to misconfiguration > by the insta

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 19:07 +, psmith wrote: > On 11/03/10 16:01, Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 08:50 -0700, David Bartmess wrote: > > > >> On 3/10/2010 10:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread psmith
On 11/03/10 16:01, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 08:50 -0700, David Bartmess wrote: > >> On 3/10/2010 10:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek >>> wrote: >>> >>> What genius decided that? Stupid. Are you sure? That

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
On 11/03/10 05:01 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 08:50 -0700, David Bartmess wrote: >> On 3/10/2010 10:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek >>> wrote: >>> What genius decided that? Stupid. Are you sure? That little three-key

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 03/11/2010 05:59 PM, Mark wrote: David Bartmess wrote: On 3/10/2010 10:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: What genius decided that? Stupid. Are you sure? That little three-key combo has gotten me out of more than a few X-server

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 08:50 -0700, David Bartmess wrote: > On 3/10/2010 10:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > >> What genius decided that? Stupid. Are you sure? That little three-key > >> combo has gotten me out of more than a few X-s

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread Mark
David Bartmess wrote: On 3/10/2010 10:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: What genius decided that? Stupid. Are you sure? That little three-key combo has gotten me out of more than a few X-server lockups with Fedora due to misconfig

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread David Bartmess
On 3/10/2010 10:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> What genius decided that? Stupid. Are you sure? That little three-key >> combo has gotten me out of more than a few X-server lockups with Fedora due >> to misconfiguration by the instal

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 21:04 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 01:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: > > Upstream, either Xorg or Gnome. One of the reasons, IIRC, was that > > some people are using/could use that key combo by mistake. > > How? How could you accidentally press that awkward key combinat

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 01:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: > Upstream, either Xorg or Gnome. One of the reasons, IIRC, was that > some people are using/could use that key combo by mistake. How? How could you accidentally press that awkward key combination? I could buy it if the key sequence was ALT zxc but

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-11 Thread Tom H
>> What genius decided that? Stupid. Are you sure? >> That little three-key combo has gotten me out of more than a few >> X-server lockups with Fedora due to misconfiguration by the installer. > Upstream X.Org. I'm sure if you search it, you will find lots of > discusions about it. You can always

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Tom H
>> Fedora IA32 comes with PAE enabled by default. >> Still, it's better using AA64; also ctrl+alt+backspace is >> disabled by default. > What genius decided that?  Stupid.  Are you sure?  That little three-key > combo has gotten me out of more than a few X-server lockups with Fedora due > to mis

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Chris Smart
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > What genius decided that?  Stupid.  Are you sure?  That little three-key > combo has gotten me out of more than a few X-server lockups with Fedora due > to misconfiguration by the installer. > Upstream X.Org. I'm sure if you search it,

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 11 March 2010, Patrick Bartek wrote: >--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Aioanei Rares wrote: >> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 10:34 AM >> On 03/10/2010 08:26 PM, Patrick >> Bartek wrote >> >> > Also, be aware that with the 32-bit (i686) versions of >> >> Fedora, you won't have access to all 4GB

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Aioanei Rares wrote: > Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 10:34 AM > On 03/10/2010 08:26 PM, Patrick > Bartek wrote > > Also, be aware that with the 32-bit (i686) versions of > Fedora, you won't have access to all 4GB of RAM due to > limits of the 32-bit addressing unless you u

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Andres Felipe Acosta Gil
i forgot to say that i have an intel graphics media accelerator 2010/3/10 Andres Felipe Acosta Gil > thanks for the response, the image is fedora-12-i686-live, and here is the > information about the specs: > > >- Laptop Toshiba Satellite U505, x64-based PC >- Intel core i3 processor @2.

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 03/10/2010 08:26 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote > Also, be aware that with the 32-bit (i686) versions of Fedora, you won't have > access to all 4GB of RAM due to limits of the 32-bit addressing unless you > use the PAE kernel. You'd be better off using the 64-bit Fedora instead. > > B > > Fedor

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote: > thanks for the response, the image is > fedora-12-i686-live, and here is the information about the > specs: > Laptop Toshiba Satellite U505, x64-based > PCIntel core i3 processor @2.13 GHz > SMBIOS 2.6 versionRAM=4Gb I've always had problems

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Suvayu Ali
On 09/03/10 10:18 PM, Fred Williams wrote: > On 9 March 2010 21:14, Andres Felipe Acosta Gilwrote: > >> I downloaded the disc image and burned it in a DVD, then i booted Fedora, >> but the screen turns dark and the dvd stops, should i download the fedora Could be your graphics hardware is not beha

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Andres Felipe Acosta Gil
I think its working beacuse when i press ctrl+alt+del, the system reboots, i think when the screen is black maybe the system is waiting for an input, but how can i see whats going on?? 2010/3/10 Tim > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:14 -0500, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote: > > I downloaded the disc im

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-10 Thread Andres Felipe Acosta Gil
thanks for the response, the image is fedora-12-i686-live, and here is the information about the specs: - Laptop Toshiba Satellite U505, x64-based PC - Intel core i3 processor @2.13 GHz - SMBIOS 2.6 version - RAM= 4Gb Greetings 2010/3/10 Patrick Bartek > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Andres

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-09 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:14 -0500, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote: > I downloaded the disc image and burned it in a DVD, then i booted > Fedora, but the screen turns dark and the dvd stops, should i download > the fedora image and burn it again?? or what else should i do?? Obvious question: How l

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Tue, 3/9/10, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote: > I downloaded the disc image and burned it in > a DVD, then i booted Fedora, but the screen turns dark and > the dvd stops, should i download the fedora image and burn > it again?? or what else should i do?? Which disc image (ISO) exactly? Th

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-09 Thread Jim
On 03/09/2010 04:18 PM, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote: i forgot to say that i have a Toshiba laptop, intel core i3 processor 2010/3/9 Andres Felipe Acosta Gil > I downloaded the disc image and burned it in a DVD, then i booted Fedora, but the screen turns

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-09 Thread Andres Felipe Acosta Gil
i forgot to say that i have a Toshiba laptop, intel core i3 processor 2010/3/9 Andres Felipe Acosta Gil > I downloaded the disc image and burned it in a DVD, then i booted Fedora, > but the screen turns dark and the dvd stops, should i download the fedora > image and burn it again?? or what else

Re: Fedora 12 installing

2010-03-09 Thread Fred Williams
On 9 March 2010 21:14, Andres Felipe Acosta Gil wrote: > I downloaded the disc image and burned it in a DVD, then i booted Fedora, > but the screen turns dark and the dvd stops, should i download the fedora > image and burn it again?? or what else should i do?? > > -- > Andres Acosta > > -- > user