Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 20:04, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 17.11.2012 16:25, schrieb lee: >>> Networkmanager is forcibly installed by default and breaks things when >>> you do that --- add that to the list of problems. It should either use >>> its own independent way or operate accordin

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 17.11.2012 16:25, schrieb lee: >> Networkmanager is forcibly installed by default and breaks things when >> you do that --- add that to the list of problems. It should either use >> its own independent way or operate according to the information provided >> in such fil

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 16:25, schrieb lee: > Networkmanager is forcibly installed by default and breaks things when > you do that --- add that to the list of problems. It should either use > its own independent way or operate according to the information provided > in such files instead of messing things

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 17.11.2012 00:10, schrieb lee: > >>> You never get guest computers, or get asked to take in someone else's >>> computer and fix it, or install Linux on it for them? You never add new >>> devices? Some of which really expect DHCP (network printers, gaming >>> consoles,

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 16 November 2012, Reindl Harald sent: > i agree that it makes no sense if there is no useful domain but the > benefits for cases where you have one beats the overhead easily I've tended to find that it's easier to do things if you do have a domain name, even if you've faked

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 00:10, schrieb lee: >> You never get guest computers, or get asked to take in someone else's >> computer and fix it, or install Linux on it for them? You never add new >> devices? Some of which really expect DHCP (network printers, gaming >> consoles, media devices). Or had to c

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread lee
Tim writes: > Tim: >>> I'd say, if you're installing BIND, then run a DHCP server on that >>> same computer, and disable any other DHCP servers on your LAN (such >>> as in your modem/router). Configure your DHCP server to tell all >>> clients on your network the addresses for configuring your ne

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 16.11.2012 21:45, schrieb lee: >> 1.) omit the search option >> 2.) put a non-existent domain into the search option >> 3.) put an existing domain into the search option >> >> >> No. 2.) isn't useful > > correct > >> no. 3.) leads to unexpected results and >> confusio

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.11.2012 21:45, schrieb lee: > 1.) omit the search option > 2.) put a non-existent domain into the search option > 3.) put an existing domain into the search option > > > No. 2.) isn't useful correct > no. 3.) leads to unexpected results and > confusion[1] and therefore isn't very useful

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 15.11.2012 18:38, schrieb lee: >> Tim writes: >> >>> Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2012, lee sent: If you're using a chaching name server, you might not want the "search" option. >>> >>> You probably do. It, or a similar option, will be used so that "p

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I'd say, if you're installing BIND, then run a DHCP server on that >> same computer, and disable any other DHCP servers on your LAN (such >> as in your modem/router). Configure your DHCP server to tell all >> clients on your network the addresses for configuring your network >> (gateway, D

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2012 18:38, schrieb lee: > Tim writes: > >> Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2012, lee sent: >>> If you're using a chaching name server, you might not want the >>> "search" option. >> >> You probably do. It, or a similar option, will be used so that "ping >> hostname" successfully t

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-15 Thread lee
Tim writes: > Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2012, lee sent: >> If you're using a chaching name server, you might not want the >> "search" option. > > You probably do. It, or a similar option, will be used so that "ping > hostname" successfully translates into "ping hostname.domainname" on >

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-15 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2012, lee sent: > If you're using a chaching name server, you might not want the > "search" option. You probably do. It, or a similar option, will be used so that "ping hostname" successfully translates into "ping hostname.domainname" on your network. > install

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-12 Thread lee
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" writes: > On 11/11/12 14:50, Reindl Harald wrote: >> "PEERDNS=no" is your friend touch prevent touch resolv.conf >> and NO it is NOT ok to have ANY unrelieable DNS in >> resolv.conf becasue as explaiend you have no control which is >> used for a request, there

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-12 Thread Tim
Reindl Harald: > > maybe you have a crappy ISP which blocks DNS if it is > > not their own one - let me guess: USA, here in europe > > it is absolutely no probem to setup a dns-server which > > does recursion and never tocuhes any ISp crap, some > > providers think they knpw better what their users

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.11.2012 21:50, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni: > On 11/11/12 15:38, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 11.11.2012 21:33, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni: >>> >**Changed PEERDNS=no back to PEERDNS=yes >>> > >>> > ** and then I could send ... >> maybe you have a crappy ISP which blocks DNS if it is >>

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-11 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 11/11/12 15:38, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.11.2012 21:33, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni: >**Changed PEERDNS=no back to PEERDNS=yes > > ** and then I could send ... maybe you have a crappy ISP which blocks DNS if it is not their own one - let me guess: USA, here in europe it is absolutel

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.11.2012 21:33, schrieb Bob Goodwin - Zuni: >**Changed PEERDNS=no back to PEERDNS=yes > > ** and then I could send ... maybe you have a crappy ISP which blocks DNS if it is not their own one - let me guess: USA, here in europe it is absolutely no probem to setup a dns-server which

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-11 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 11/11/12 14:50, Reindl Harald wrote: "PEERDNS=no" is your friend touch prevent touch resolv.conf and NO it is NOT ok to have ANY unrelieable DNS in resolv.conf becasue as explaiend you have no control which is used for a request, there is no order, the diesgn is to configure equal namservers a