Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/04/2012 08:43 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >>> I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in >>> Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indicates that my e

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

Am 06.07.2012 03:08, schrieb Robert Myers: > Not only can't you spell, but apparently you can't read. Either that, > or you have no regard for accuracy when making claims as to what > others have said. I have never said that you can't run Flash on > Fedora. Historically, though, just as with N

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > There is no fundamental difference that I know of between Ubuntu and > Fedora with regard to virtualization. > > With regard to flash support, Ubuntu supports it more or less > transparently and, if you want to use it on Fedora, you can spend

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

I can't believe the lot of you are still keeping this up. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Bill Shirley > wrote: > > "As for the bullies here who think of themselves as the Internet police > but > > who in reality are no better than a street

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Bill Shirley wrote: > "As for the bullies here who think of themselves as the Internet police but > who in reality are no better than a street gang, make the world a better > place and find a competent therapist > Robert Myers." > > You sir, crave attention. You'v

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

"As for the bullies here who think of themselves as the Internet police but who in reality are no better than a street gang, make the world a better place and find a competent therapist Robert Myers." You sir, crave attention. You've had your little flame war and it has died down. Now you're

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > You've got the rolling eyes in the wrong head. D'oh. You're funny, I give you that. Good luck! FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/li

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > I mean that the underlying packages are the same, the Flash plug-in is > the same as it is one proprietary piece of software originating from > Adobe. > > The same applies to virtualization, as you can run KVM or Virtualbox > on both. The

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Tim wrote: >> I fail to grasp what would be so fundamentally different between >> Ubuntu and Fedora with regards to virtualization and flash support. > > Ubuntu has Debian origins, Fedora has Red Hat. I mean that the underlying packages are the same, the Flash plug

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Edward M wrote: > On 07/03/2012 04:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> >> , and Fedora >> doesn't even aim at being a replacement for Windows. > > >If seeking a linux windows look-alike then maybe zorin may be it? > ¨Zorin OS is a multi-functional operating system s

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/03/2012 04:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: , and Fedora doesn't even aim at being a replacement for Windows. If seeking a linux windows look-alike then maybe zorin may be it? ¨Zorin OS is a multi-functional operating system specifically for Windows users who want to have easy and smooth

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 16:09 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I fail to grasp what would be so fundamentally different between > Ubuntu and Fedora with regards to virtualization and flash support. Ubuntu has Debian origins, Fedora has Red Hat. They do some things in substantially different ways, ot

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > You are posting in the wrong place for the problems you are having, you have > gotten pointers to better places, and you stay here sadly repeating "no one > here cares..." People are saying "ask over here" and you are hearing "we > don't car

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

Robert Myers wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers wrote: I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indicates that my exact hardware should work just f

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Lee wrote: > > > Oss are usually designed with a particular end user in mind. Your experience > is a testament to that. You should use imho whichever OS seems most > comfortable. That is the reason multiple OSs exist: to give people a choice > to run whichever one s

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Jul 4, 2012 1:47 PM, "Robert Myers" wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > > > Why do you stick to ridiculous over-generalizations. As people have said > > several times if you like Ubuntu so much switch to it and don't post to > > the Fedora users list. > > -- >

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On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Why do you stick to ridiculous over-generalizations. As people have said > several times if you like Ubuntu so much switch to it and don't post to > the Fedora users list. > -- And why do you make posts that are nothing but an insult? The

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 15:43 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > >> I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in > >> Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indi

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 4 July 2012 20:43, Robert Myers wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >>> I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in >>> Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indicates that my ex

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 4 July 2012 17:05, Robert Myers wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Ed Gurski wrote: >> >> > Since you are an older person, like me, you have less time to put up with > things you don't like, such as people who make posts that you find to be > disagreeable. You also have less time to do

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/04/2012 12:43 PM, Robert Myers wrote: Thus, if I need to find the*exact* Ubuntu driver for the very popular webcam I actually use, not only can I find it, but I can also find people who use it and talk about how to use it. If there are such users in the Fedora community, I have so far not

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 7/4/2012 3:43 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >>> I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in >>> Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indicates that my exac

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in >> Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indicates that my exact hardware >> should work just fine. > > I fai

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in > Fedora, and conversations in Ubuntu forums indicates that my exact hardware > should work just fine. I fail to grasp what would be so fundamentally different between Ubun

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Ed Gurski wrote: > > I too am an older person, retired for 5 years and have been using Fedora > from it's inception. I have several boxes running Fedora, one even > running VMWare Workstation with Windows 7 as a guest, without problems! > I'm glad it works for you

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/04/2012 11:23 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > You are nothing if not persistent. As to contributing to Linux, which > for me has *always* been Red Hat, this is not the only forum in > existence. Given your investment in defending your ego, it is clearly > an important forum for you. I do not se

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/04/2012 11:23 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > You are nothing if not persistent. As to contributing to Linux, which > for me has *always* been Red Hat, this is not the only forum in > existence. Given your investment in defending your ego, it is clearly > an important forum for you. My goodness

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 04/07/12 11:07, Fernando Cassia wrote: Linux purists answer that "that's not the way we do things in Linux" and that "users should learn their new OS rather than try to copy the way Windows does things". I think that is wrong and is precisely one of the reasons of desktop linux minuscule mark

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > It should have been clear, but I suppose I must state it explicitly, > that I do not care either for Adobe or for Flash, but I have no choice > but to use them, which means that Fedora cannot be my primary OS So you're negating the technical

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> Flash actually works for Windows, and I need Flash (I know...pathetic, isn't >> it?) > > Adobe gets in bed with Google to promote Chrome and makes Flash > available on Chrome only and

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/04/2012 10:35 AM, Robert Myers wrote: >> Because I have a significant if not especially visible investment in both >> time and >> emotion. I'm just not as visible as some of the more aggressive >> self-promoters >> [sustained and direct

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Remember, Windows is designed as an OS for the masses, and it's designed to > be used mostly by people with no real understanding of computers or how they > work. Would you really want Linux to follow down that path? Let me jump in on this discu

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > Flash actually works for Windows, and I need Flash (I know...pathetic, isn't > it?) Adobe gets in bed with Google to promote Chrome and makes Flash available on Chrome only and this is a fault of Fedora or Linux, exactly HOW? and how do you s

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/04/2012 10:35 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > Because I have a significant if not especially visible investment in both > time and > emotion. I'm just not as visible as some of the more aggressive > self-promoters > [sustained and direct eye contact]. I had hoped to fend off patronizing > mess

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/03/2012 07:35 PM, Robert Myers wrote: There is also just the outside chance that someone, rather than trying to make me into a Better Person [tm], might have a useful suggestion to make, which clearly you do not. You hope that someone might have a useful suggestion, but rather than ask

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/04/2012 09:10 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > > Maybe I'll be sufficiently frustrated with Ubuntu that something else > will happen > > in the end, but, right now, it's looking like Windows for the laptop and > anything > > but Fedora for everyt

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > Remember, Windows is designed as an OS for the masses, and it's designed > to be used mostly by people with no real understanding of computers or how > they work. > And this is EXACTLY the reason why such an OS must of necessity be made impervi

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/03/2012 06:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: You can say whatever snarky things you want to about Windows (and no one enjoys trashing Microsoft and its straight out of a Pixar movie management more than I do), I'm not being snarky. There are a number of things that Windows does well, or that o

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 7/3/2012 9:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Joe Zeff > wrote: > > On 07/03/2012 04:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > > Fedora > doesn't even aim at being a replacement for Windows. > > > And why should it? That would be se

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/04/2012 09:10 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > Maybe I'll be sufficiently frustrated with Ubuntu that something else will > happen > in the end, but, right now, it's looking like Windows for the laptop and > anything > but Fedora for everything else. Why not just go quietly? Nothing being said h

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/03/2012 04:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > >> Fedora >> doesn't even aim at being a replacement for Windows. >> > > And why should it? That would be setting the bar far, far too low. You can say whatever snarky things you want to about Windo

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/03/2012 07:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: Hello, all, I've been using Red Hat and then Fedora for a long time. The only reason I've stuck with Fedora this long is that I am very grateful to Red Hat for its contribution to the community. HOWEVER. As time has passed, Fedora has become increas

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/03/2012 04:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: The precipitating event is actually caused by Windows, which will not accommodate all 24Gb of RAM I have on one machine without my paying blackmail (which I would have to pay over and over again), and Fedora doesn't even aim at being a replacement for W

Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

On 07/03/2012 04:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: Fedora doesn't even aim at being a replacement for Windows. And why should it? That would be setting the bar far, far too low. You complain about how it's getting harder and harder to find various settings. Is that in the GUI, or the CLI? If you