Re: 24 hour time again -

2020-01-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 25/12/19 11:53, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2019-12-25 08:26, Doug McGarrett wrote: On 12/24/2019 06:58 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote: What is LC_TYPE?. Something from my subconscious apparently ... LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting. Th

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-12-25 07:58, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote: >> What is LC_TYPE?. > > Something from my subconscious apparently ... > > LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting. > > Thank you > You were probably thinking of "LC_CTYPE".  But that has to do

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-25 Thread wwp
Hello Ed, On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 07:40:23 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2019-12-25 07:24, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > > On 2019-12-24 17:56, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> It sounds as if you're not running with the environment variable LC_TIME=C. > >> > >> What does the followng LONG command string return?

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-12-25 08:26, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > > On 12/24/2019 06:58 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> >> On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> What is LC_TYPE?. >> >> Something from my subconscious apparently ... >> >> LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting. >> >> Thank you >> >

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-24 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 12/24/2019 06:58 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote: What is LC_TYPE?. Something from my subconscious apparently ... LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting. Thank you I'd like to have 24 hour time also but this theme has confused me. If

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-12-25 08:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/24/19 3:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> OK, why did you not enter the command as I typed it?  It would have avoided >> any issues of what the PID is. >> >> Anyway, the PID is 1652 but your next command is wrong >> >> It should have been >> >> cat

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/24/19 3:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: OK, why did you not enter the command as I typed it?  It would have avoided any issues of what the PID is. Anyway, the PID is 1652 but your next command is wrong It should have been cat /proc1652/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo $? You drop

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2019-12-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/24/19 3:24 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: [bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ ps ax  | grep thunderbird    1652 ?    Sl 0:50 /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird    2431 pts/1    S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird [bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ cat /proc/$1652/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo $?

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-24 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote: What is LC_TYPE?. Something from my subconscious apparently ... LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting. Thank you -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, Fedora Linux-31 XFCE ___ users mailing

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-12-25 07:24, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > On 2019-12-24 17:56, Ed Greshko wrote: >> It sounds as if you're not running with the environment variable LC_TIME=C. >> >> What does the followng LONG command string return? >> >> xx=`pidof thunderbird` ; cat/proc/$xx/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-24 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2019-12-24 17:56, Ed Greshko wrote: It sounds as if you're not running with the environment variable LC_TIME=C. What does the followng LONG command string return? xx=`pidof thunderbird` ; cat/proc/$xx/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo $? - . Well I do have this which I hope runs afte

Re: 24 hour time again -

2019-12-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-12-25 04:22, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On a new fedora 31 installed this week and updated i am unable to get > Thunderbird-68.3.1 to display a message list using 24 hour time. > > The Date and  Time Regional setting can not be changed from US English to und > as expected. I've tried downgradin

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-22 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2019-11-23 at 14:45 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > What I found with Thunderbird 72.0a1 was that in order to get > Thunderbird to display times in 24 hour format, I had to go into > Gnome Settings->Details->Date&Time (where I already had the time > format specified as 24-hour) and turn off

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-22 Thread Stephen Morris
On 22/11/19 12:18, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 11/21/19 7:20 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi Bob, I could be wrong but from the cat ~/.bashrc you have shown here, the export command isn't there. regards, Steve . Yes, you are correct, I botched that ... I confused ~/.bashrc and /home.bobg/.bashrc

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2019-11-21 20:41, Ed Greshko wrote: Advanced--->Date and Time Formatting Regional settings locale: und . I reset Preferences >   Advanced >  Regional  ,...   :und and the 24 hour time reappeared. Something caused that to change, an update, or something else I did? I dunno, but now I kno

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-11-16 04:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/15/19 7:27 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird 62.2.0 nd/or >> 62.2.2. >> >> Presently I have created /usr/bin/thunderbird24h: >> >> /usr/bin/thunderbird24h: >> #!/bin/sh >> LC_TIME=C >> export LC

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-11-22 09:18, Bob Goodwin wrote: > However after rebooting the computer Thunderbird time is still displayed in > the 12 hour AM/PM format on this > f-31 computer. FWIW, I'm just "testing" at the moment. I edited /usr/bin/thunderbird to add at the very beginning export LC_TIME=C I then

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/21/19 7:20 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi Bob, I could be wrong but from the cat ~/.bashrc you have shown here, the export command isn't there. regards, Steve . Yes, you are correct, I botched that ... I confused ~/.bashrc and /home.bobg/.bashrc After correcting that it is: [bobg@Wo

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Stephen Morris
On 22/11/19 08:12, Bob Goodwin wrote: . I did this the other day and it worked initially but quit and the list of messages is in 12 hour time again. A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora 30 (X86_64): to ~/.bashrc add the line export LC_TIME="C" Below is a

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
. I did this the other day and it worked initially but quit and the list of messages is in 12 hour time again. A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora 30 (X86_64): to ~/.bashrc add the line export LC_TIME="C" Below is a copy of .bashrc with added line at the

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/11/19 12:34, Stephen Morris wrote: On 18/11/19 12:17, Stephen Morris wrote: On 17/11/19 01:22, Bob Goodwin wrote: Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit : It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced" . Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/11/19 12:17, Stephen Morris wrote: On 17/11/19 01:22, Bob Goodwin wrote: Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit : It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced" . Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM 12 hours? French does 24 hour time howeve

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/11/19 01:22, Bob Goodwin wrote: Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit : It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced" . Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM 12 hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it will let me use an E

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 06:31 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > 24 hour time seems like sucb a basic need, always wondered why it > wasn''t included as an option from the beginning with the earliest > computers? There must be some insurmountable difficulty in adding > that as an option. Going from what

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2019-11-16 13:01, Joe Zeff wrote: You know, Mozilla maintains a help forum for Thunderbird.  You might find it best to ask there. ___ > You are probably right. I generaly don't bother with forums since they often seem like the blind misleadin

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2019-11-16 11:25, Stephen Perkins wrote: A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora 30 (X86_64): to ~/.bashrc add the line export LC_TIME="C" log out and back in and Thunderbird shows 24-hour format. HTH Stephen . Yes that works! I had to reset time back

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Wells, Roger K. via users
On 11/16/19 11:27 AM, Stephen Perkins wrote: < Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not comfortable in French although it does work for me, it changes the theme in places to a blavk on white < display that I need a magnifier to read? I also need an English spell check

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/2019 04:31 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: It appears Thunderbird 68.2.2 does not have "Tools > Options." I don't see Options anywhere? So I will work my way through the remaining suggestions ... You know, Mozilla maintains a help forum for Thunderbird. You might find it best to ask there.

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Stephen Perkins
< Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not comfortable in French although it does work for me, it changes the theme in places to a blavk on white < display that I need a magnifier to read? I also need an English spell checker running, *am a lousy typist*. I'll just deal

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/16/19 9:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit : It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced" . Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM 12 hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it will let me use an

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit : It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced" . Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM 12 hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it will let me use an Englsh spell checker, it seems it should ?

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/16/19 7:31 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > On 11/16/19 5:47 AM, Tim via users wrote: >> On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 10:27 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: >>> How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird >>> 62.2.0 nd/or 62.2.2. >> I found this advice on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/que

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/16/19 5:47 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 10:27 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird 62.2.0 nd/or 62.2.2. I found this advice on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1228724 An option under "Tools > Options, Adv

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-16 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 10:27 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird > 62.2.0 nd/or 62.2.2. I found this advice on https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1228724 An option under "Tools > Options, Advanced, General" now allows to select wheth

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-15 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/15/19 3:07 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I remember a thread about this a while back and I don't think there was any solution found.  I even tried building my own locale file and that didn't seem to work. __ . Yes that was probably me, I feel like I've been through this several times befo

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/15/19 7:27 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird 62.2.0 nd/or 62.2.2. Presently I have created /usr/bin/thunderbird24h: /usr/bin/thunderbird24h: #!/bin/sh LC_TIME=C export LC_TIME /usr/bin/thunderbird and rebooted but the AM/PM time is st

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-18 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:25 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm at a convention, Bob, and haven't seen any email since Friday > evening. Details such as that tend to get forgotten when you have > real life issues to deal with. (I'm not just attending Gallifrey One, > I'm part of the staff for Handicapp

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 17/02/13 15:25, Joe Zeff wrote: I'm at a convention, Bob, and haven't seen any email since Friday evening. Details such as that tend to get forgotten when you have real life issues to deal with. (I'm not just attending Gallifrey One, I'm part of the staff for Handicapped Services, which

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/17/2013 12:10 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: You're not following the thread Joe, I set the locale to en_GB. I was just needling Tim about the English spelling, don't often have that opportunity. I'm at a convention, Bob, and haven't seen any email since Friday evening. De

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 17/02/13 14:46, Joe Zeff wrote: What "gross misspelling?" "Colour" is perfectly correct in British English, even though it isn't in American English. Maybe you need to check to see which form of English your box is set for. You're not following the thread Joe, I set the locale to en_GB. I

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/16/2013 06:55 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: About the only "problem" I see is a few menu label misspellings like colour [spell checker wants to fix this gross misspelling]! Everything else seems correct. And in my scheme of things having 24 hour time takes priority. What "g

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 15/02/13 22:21, Tim wrote: Though, you'll probably find that changes more things than you care for (dictionaries, spelling checkers, currency handling, numerical punctuation, default paper sizes, in all applications). This also works, appears to change only time to 24 hours without affectin

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 15/02/13 22:21, Tim wrote: I eventually found that I could edit /etc/locale.conf and changed it > to LANG="en_GB.UTF-8 instead of en_US. It seems to me I ought to be > able to change time by alone but this works for me. Though, you'll probably find that changes more things than you care for

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-15 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I would have thought that Thunderbird would have a pile of those >> about:config features, like Firefox, where you could specify the format >> of headers. Chances are that it does, but not by default, you might >> have to add a new configuration line into it. Ed Greshko: > You would think

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/16/2013 11:21 AM, Tim wrote: > I would have thought that Thunderbird would have a pile of those > about:config features, like Firefox, where you could specify the format > of headers. Chances are that it does, but not by default, you might > have to add a new configuration line into it. You

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-15 Thread Tim
Bob Goodwin: > I eventually found that I could edit /etc/locale.conf and changed it > to LANG="en_GB.UTF-8 instead of en_US. It seems to me I ought to be > able to change time by alone but this works for me. Though, you'll probably find that changes more things than you care for (dictionaries, sp

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-15 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 15/02/13 20:13, poma wrote: On 02/05/13 00:53, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How do I set Thunderbird to list messages without AM/PM? In the past I could set the language to en_GB and that worked. I don't see any place to do that in F-18. Via so called old school LC_T

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-15 Thread poma
On 02/05/13 00:53, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > >How do I set Thunderbird to list messages without AM/PM? In the past >I could set the language to en_GB and that worked. I don't see any >place to do that in F-18. > Via so called old school LC_TIME=C. e.g. /bin/thunderbi

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 21:41:50 -0500, "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: Where do you set the locale? setlocaleLANG=en_DK.utf8 has no effect here. Not sure which Lightning add-on you are referring to. I have one called "Config Date" which works well enough but

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-04 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 02/04/2013 07:30 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 18:53:43 -0500, "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: How do I set Thunderbird to list messages without AM/PM? In the past I could set the language to en_GB and that worked. I don't see any place to do that in

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 18:53:43 -0500, "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: How do I set Thunderbird to list messages without AM/PM? In the past I could set the language to en_GB and that worked. I don't see any place to do that in F-18. I use the lightning extension and set my

Re: 24 hour time showing when AM/PM setting

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/04/2012 11:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: OK. NOW what is Gnome doing??? Settings show that I have selected AM/PM for time, it was showing AM/PM previously but now the time in the middle of the top line is in 24 hr time. ? Well I did a restart of gnome shell for the assistan