Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-20 Thread g
On 05/11/2013 04:58 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: On 05/11/2013 01:04 PM, g wrote: although you have already installed liveusb-creator, did you give consideration to using; dd if=/path/to/iso-file of=/dev/usb i run fedora for special programs and mainly use scientific linux, which alr

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.05.2013 22:30, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 05/11/2013 12:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i am a really hard figther against*useless* dependencies or >> not fine enough splittet ones by subpackages pulling a X11 >> dependency-chain on servers > > You're not the only one. Did you know that gdm an

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/12/2013 12:01 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: Unless my memory's wrong, I found it several months ago, verified it with others on the fedorafourm and we all dealt with it. I'm guessing that it got fixed because at least one of the people who were involved in that thread found that (at that time) it

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2013 08:46 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: You don't really need to run Rawhide to check that. repoquery does the job just fine and yes, it appears to be fixed in Rawhide. Next time, when you do run into any unnecessary dependencies, please do file a bug report. User mailing list isn't the

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/11/2013 04:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> >> Did you file any bug reports? It has been obsoleted in Rawhide >> > > No. I don't use PackageKit and, as I use Xfce, I don't really need gdm. > I switched over to lightdm and got rid o

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2013 04:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Did you file any bug reports? It has been obsoleted in Rawhide No. I don't use PackageKit and, as I use Xfce, I don't really need gdm. I switched over to lightdm and got rid of PackageKit, gdm and preupgrade. (Personally, I don't ever use Raw

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Rex Dieter
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > On 05/11/2013 01:04 PM, g wrote: >> >> >> although you have already installed liveusb-creator, did you give >> consideration to using; >> >>dd if=/path/to/iso-file of=/dev/usb >> >> i run fedora for special programs and mainly use scientific linux, >> which already

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/11/2013 12:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> i am a really hard figther against*useless* dependencies or >> >> not fine enough splittet ones by subpackages pulling a X11 >> dependency-chain on servers >> > > You're not the only one. Di

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 05/11/2013 01:04 PM, g wrote: > > > although you have already installed liveusb-creator, did you give > consideration to using; > >dd if=/path/to/iso-file of=/dev/usb > > i run fedora for special programs and mainly use scientific linux, > which already had liveusb-creator installed. > Have

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/11/2013 12:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: i am a really hard figther against*useless* dependencies or not fine enough splittet ones by subpackages pulling a X11 dependency-chain on servers You're not the only one. Did you know that gdm and PackageKit both have preupgrade as a dependency,

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.05.2013 21:03, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:03 PM, "Germán A. Racca" > wrote: >> I sincerely think that this kind of complaints (I have seen several from you >> too) won't take you nowhere. > > Yes, it takes me to nirvana. It shows me what software is well written

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 05/11/2013 04:03 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:03 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: I sincerely think that this kind of complaints (I have seen several from you too) won't take you nowhere. Yes, it takes me to nirvana. It shows me what software is well written and which

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:03 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: > I sincerely think that this kind of complaints (I have seen several from you > too) won't take you nowhere. Yes, it takes me to nirvana. It shows me what software is well written and which ones are not. > Have you thought about program

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:04 PM, g wrote: > i run fedora for special programs and mainly use scientific linux, > which already had liveusb-creator installed. that is a good approach (I mean, having LiveUSB-creator as part of the base install) . Like I said in a previous message, I solved it by u

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread g
On 05/10/2013 10:48 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: 14 packages, 104 MB installed just for a simple GUI that calls other low-level system utils... Sheesh... Thinking that liveusb-creator is often run from LiveCD, wouldn't it be nice to create a statically linked liveusb-creator that can be down

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.05.2013 18:03, schrieb Germán A. Racca: > First of all, it is NOT a simple GUI. It is a GUI programmed in Python using > the Qt toolkit, so if you don't have > Qt installed in your system, it pulls as a dependency, which is great, > because otherwise you would have to install > everything

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 05/10/2013 12:48 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: 14 packages, 104 MB installed just for a simple GUI that calls other low-level system utils... Sheesh... Thinking that liveusb-creator is often run from LiveCD, wouldn't it be nice to create a statically linked liveusb-creator that can be downlo

Re: Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-11 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> 14 packages, 104 MB installed just for a simple GUI that calls > other low-level system utils... > Sheesh... +1 For me, most of the time it even doesn't work correctly and fails with obscure messages or stack-traces in some python code. I switched to unetbootin, which has also a lot of depe

Rant of the day: Insane dependencies for liveusb-creator

2013-05-10 Thread Fernando Cassia
14 packages, 104 MB installed just for a simple GUI that calls other low-level system utils... Sheesh... Thinking that liveusb-creator is often run from LiveCD, wouldn't it be nice to create a statically linked liveusb-creator that can be downloaded as a single binary and run?. Furthermore, su