Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 06:43:27 pm JB wrote: > Thirdly, stick around the thread for many days (even weeks) - there is > a good chance somebody will have time (like Lamar next week) and come up > with a good idea. Given what I've seen of Ashley's symptoms, it may be more BIOS related than ch

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-26 Thread JB
Maurizio Marini datalogica.com> writes: > ... > I would delay the stream of lines before > waiting for hardware to initialize > > or better it would be to avoiud the clear screen, can fedora ppl avoid this > clear screen? > I do not know if this kernel parameter may help you in your extende

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-26 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:50:42 + (UTC) JB wrote: > Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > > > ... > > You are much happier and reasonable this time - throwing books at Fedora, > however deserved and fun, will not change anything :-) I agree with that :) I have added ignore_loglevel enfor

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-26 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... You are much happier and reasonable this time - throwing books at Fedora, however deserved and fun, will not change anything :-) Please file a new bug report with Bugzilla as an F14 kernel problem. If you need help, tell us. https://bugzilla.redhat.c

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 14:26:00 -0700, "Ashley M. Kirchner" wrote: > > Well, that was a major pain in the you-know-what. Sheesh. Intel > only provides floppy BIOS updates for this board (considering how old it > is, I don't blame them.) So I had to find a a floppy drive, find a > fl

RE: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-25 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
> -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users- > boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of JB > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 4:43 PM > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs > >

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-25 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > > > Well, with the confetti guns at the ready, I tried FC13, no dice. > Boot options were: > > ide=nodma noapic acpi=off ignore_loglevel initcall_debug > ... Do not worry, be happy. You are a brave girl - the way you read all that extended

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-25 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Well, with the confetti guns at the ready, I tried FC13, no dice. Boot options were: ide=nodma noapic acpi=off ignore_loglevel initcall_debug It quit at the same point it has been lately, which is giving me garbage on screen like my image posted yesterday, and ata3 times out,

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-25 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/25/2011 5:41 AM, JB wrote: > Check the board's BIOS date. > In Bugzilla 665109 they claim that this board can have old or incomplete BIOS. > Does it seem to be outdated ? Is there any update on manufacturer's or > reseller's web site ? > > I would look at the BIOS settings too (sometimes their

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-25 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > > On 1/24/2011 4:33 PM, JB wrote: > > Read Lamar Owen's post. > > You may search Google and Bugzilla for problems related to your Broadcom > > CNB20LE board. > > > > There is a chance that Alan drops by and he is expert on hard disks. > > > > Tomorrow wil

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/24/2011 4:33 PM, JB wrote: > Read Lamar Owen's post. > You may search Google and Bugzilla for problems related to your Broadcom > CNB20LE board. > > There is a chance that Alan drops by and he is expert on hard disks. > > Tomorrow will try some more. > > JB Yep, I'm going to try and boot

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... Read Lamar Owen's post. You may search Google and Bugzilla for problems related to your Broadcom CNB20LE board. There is a chance that Alan drops by and he is expert on hard disks. Tomorrow will try some more. JB -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/24/2011 4:04 PM, JB wrote: > Try: > keep only -> ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 initcall_debug > > Keep these runs separate. > > 1st run: > add -> pci=use_crs > > 2nd run (remove 1st run added parameters): > add -> noapic nolapic nolapic_timer > > 3rd run (remove 2nd run added parameters): > n

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... One more time for today :-) I incorporated a probable fix (1st run) from similar problems in Bugzilla. Try: keep only -> ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 initcall_debug Keep these runs separate. 1st run: add -> pci=use_crs 2nd run (remove 1st run adde

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/24/2011 2:32 PM, JB wrote: > Let's take a shot at hard disk problems: > keep only -> ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 initcall_debug > > Keep these 2 runs separately. > > 1st run: > add -> pci=nomsi pci=nommconf pci=nocrs > > 2nd run (remove 1st run added parameters): > rdblacklist=ahci > > JB

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Lamar Owen
[Note that there is quite a list of things below to look at, but do look at the bugzilla entry at the very bottom and try that, possibly even first.] On Monday, January 24, 2011 02:09:52 pm Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > What I don't get is how this dies with FC14 but not with CentOS 5 > ... d

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... Let's take a shot at hard disk problems: keep only -> ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 initcall_debug Keep these 2 runs separately. 1st run: add -> pci=nomsi pci=nommconf pci=nocrs 2nd run (remove 1st run added parameters): rdblacklist=ahci JB

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/24/2011 2:06 PM, JB wrote: > I am looking at kernel parameters and Fedora kernel problems - there is so > much of it that could go wrong that the head is spinning. > > Let's hope that Alan finds time to come back to the thread - he is the real > expert here. > > I will continue looking into it

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > > On 1/24/2011 1:43 PM, JB wrote: > > I am looking at that dmesg posted by you - CentOS had some errors too. > > We have to reset the kernel line and run it again with max verbose > > debugging. > > > > Please reset kernel parameters to only the ones nee

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/24/2011 1:43 PM, JB wrote: > I am looking at that dmesg posted by you - CentOS had some errors too. > We have to reset the kernel line and run it again with max verbose debugging. > > Please reset kernel parameters to only the ones needed for debugging (and keep > them always), remove anything

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... I am looking at that dmesg posted by you - CentOS had some errors too. We have to reset the kernel line and run it again with max verbose debugging. Please reset kernel parameters to only the ones needed for debugging (and keep them always), remove

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/24/2011 12:14 PM, Terry Polzin wrote: > Install with basic video? Or what ever the correct verbage is. Tried that already. Also tried running in text mode, vnc mode, nothing. It doesn't even get there, it dies way before that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Terry Polzin
On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 12:09 -0700, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > On 1/22/2011 2:53 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > > Ok try this > > Remove the 'quiet' add > > > > irqpoll initcall_debug > > > > The first one tries to catch and deal with hangs due to IRQ routing bugs > > in the BIOS etc, the second will print

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-24 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 2:53 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > Ok try this > Remove the 'quiet' add > > irqpoll initcall_debug > > The first one tries to catch and deal with hangs due to IRQ routing bugs > in the BIOS etc, the second will print a trace of each function called > during initialisation. It's not exciting to

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-23 Thread Alan Cox
> meantime, is there a way to capture this so I don't have to try and type it > all out? While the machine has serial ports, they're all disabled in BIOS > and I don't know how else I can capture all the stuff that gets spewed out, > other than to take a physical picture of the screen when it hang

RE: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
> > Ok try this > > Remove the 'quiet' add > > irqpoll initcall_debug > > The first one tries to catch and deal with hangs due to IRQ routing bugs in the > BIOS etc, the second will print a trace of each function called during > initialisation. It's not exciting to most people but as part of a

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:35:16 + (UTC) JB wrote: > Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > > there is something perhaps with your two Ethernet setups (you have 2 NIC > controllers shown in lspci). > > always keep --> ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 > add --> ether=0,0,eth1 > > this will for

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Alan Cox
> ata3.01 - which accounts for the four hard drives, and then it lists the > CD-ROM. But it still dies at the same exact spot after detecting the > CD-ROM ... Ok try this Remove the 'quiet' add irqpoll initcall_debug The first one tries to catch and deal with hangs due to IRQ routing bugs in

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 12:38 PM, Rick Sewill wrote: > I looked at URL, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelCommonProblems, > for hints. It has a suggestion, under "Crashes/Hangs", > "# initcall_debug will allow to see the last thing the kernel tried to > initialise before it hung." > I have the impression,

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 1:03 PM, JB wrote: > I do not see any audio (sound) device controller in your lspci ... > Is that possible ? That would be correct, it's a server board, it has no onboard audio. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: htt

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... I do not see any audio (sound) device controller in your lspci ... Is that possible ? JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users G

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 12:35 PM, JB wrote: > Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > > there is something perhaps with your two Ethernet setups (you have 2 NIC > controllers shown in lspci). > > always keep --> ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 > add -->ether=0,0,eth1 > > this will force probing both Ethe

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Rick Sewill
On Saturday, January 22, 2011 01:14:40 pm Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > On 1/22/2011 12:03 PM, JB wrote: > > Kernel command line: > > always keep --> ignore_loglevel > > add --> enforcing=0 > > The only major difference this time is that it's also detecting the > additional drives that are o

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: there is something perhaps with your two Ethernet setups (you have 2 NIC controllers shown in lspci). always keep --> ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 add --> ether=0,0,eth1 this will force probing both Ethernets. Another kernel option you can try as well i

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 12:03 PM, JB wrote: > Kernel command line: > always keep --> ignore_loglevel > add --> enforcing=0 The only major difference this time is that it's also detecting the additional drives that are on the add-on card. Previously it wasn't, but now I can see them after it says '

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... Kernel command line: always keep --> ignore_loglevel add --> enforcing=0 JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: htt

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 11:31 AM, JB wrote: > Remove "quiet" and > add "ignore_loglevel" > (without "" characters) to the boot options to see where it hangs. There was no 'quiet' option on the boot line to begin with. After the 'waiting for hardware to initialize...' line, there are several lines

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... Remove "quiet" and add "ignore_loglevel" (without "" characters) to the boot options to see where it hangs. Report back. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapro

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 11:11 AM, JB wrote: > I have to guess somewhat, which is a polite way to admit ... > Pass these on kernel line: > xdriver=vesa nomodeset agp=off > > JB No dice. Same spot. At this point I may just have to continue running CentOS, it's not like it's the end of the world an

Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes: > ... I have to guess somewhat, which is a polite way to admit ... Pass these on kernel line: xdriver=vesa nomodeset agp=off JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproje

Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Below are the output of dmesg and lspci as JB previously requested. Original Message Subject: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:40:08 -0700 From: Ashley M. Kirchner Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users To: Commun

Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-21 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/21/2011 1:22 PM, JB wrote: > Just install CentOS (as if you were installing F14 - layout mainly), > select > desktop set (X, GNOME), nothing more. It will take 15 min or so. > Then pass to the list the following displays: > $ dmesg > $ lspci > > JB That I can do. In the interest of not