Problems starting NFS-server on a fresh F40 install

2024-07-22 Thread Jouk via users
When trying to start the NFS-server on a just installed F40 system it stops immediately. What is wrong? Below I give the systemctl status and the relevant part of the journalctl. root@s185:~# systemctl status nfs-server ● nfs-server.service - NFS server and services Loaded: loaded (/usr

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure [Resolved]

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/23 23:09, Stephen Morris wrote: On 1/12/23 22:54, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure [Resolved]

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/23 22:54, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0 This

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0 This results in the following definition in /etc

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Tim via users
rying to impose ownership restrictions through how you log in. It seems like their way of handling the conflicting mess of Windows/Mac/Linux usage on the same device. For old-school NFS, you need to be the same user on the NAS as the local system. This isn't the user name, but your user ID number.

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Michael Eager
On 11/30/23 03:42, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0 This results in the following definition in /etc

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Javier Perez
The user used to connect on the network drive has to have write capability. Log in as that user and try to write at the directory of the mount point. On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 8:02 AM Roger Heflin wrote: > you specified "nfs" as the mount. And that should mount nfs4 with > tcp,

Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Roger Heflin
you specified "nfs" as the mount. And that should mount nfs4 with tcp, but mounted with nfs and udp so whatever is on the other end is old and/or has tcp/nfsv4 disabled. That being said, I don't know that users and/or owner options *WORK* for network disks. Those options lik

NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0 This results in the following definition in /etc/mtab: 192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2 /mnt/nfs

Re: Lost NFS Export

2022-12-24 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2022-12-24 at 04:46 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > BTW: I have adopted the suggestion of Tom Horsley to put "amito" in > /etc/hosts, which seems to work well. However this could fail if my > dns server changes amito's IP address -- unlikely but possible. It *would* be a problem. Most DH

Re: Lost NFS Export

2022-12-24 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
ited by Jon : Tue Nov 16 10:30:08 AM PST 2021 > > # / amito(rw,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) > > / amito(rw) > > /home amito(rw) > > > > The problem seems to happen because nfs is started before amito can > > be > > resolved: > > Do you have "Net

Re: Lost NFS Export

2022-11-08 Thread Doug Herr
home amito(rw) > > The problem seems to happen because nfs is started before amito can be > resolved: Do you have "NetworkManager-wait-online.service" enabled? Not sure if this would fix it, but it *seems* like it should. ___ users mailing l

Re: Lost NFS Export

2022-11-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 09:08:12 -0800 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > The problem seems to happen because nfs is started before amito can be > resolved: I usually solve problems like this by putting "amito" in /etc/hosts (and making sure networking believes it should lo

Lost NFS Export

2022-11-07 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
# /etc/exportfs created by Jon : Fri 2021-11-05 02:33:51 PM PDT # edited by Jon : Tue Nov 16 10:30:08 AM PST 2021 # / amito(rw,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) / amito(rw) /home amito(rw) The problem seems to happen because nfs is started before amito can be resolved: Nov 0

Re: Disable rpcbind on NFS server

2022-05-31 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 5/28/22 10:18, Chris Adams wrote: This is from Red Hat's RHEL 8 docs, but works the same on Fedora (at least version 35). Set 'vers3=n' in the '[nfsd]' section of /etc/nfs.conf, mask the RPC services, and restart NFS: systemctl mask --now rpc-statd.service rpcbi

Re: Disable rpcbind on NFS server

2022-05-28 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said: > I don't need rpcbind, as I only use NFSv4. Is there any way to set up > or configure the NFS server-related units (nfs-server.service, etc.) to > not start rpcbind? This is from Red Hat's RHEL 8 docs, but works the same on Fedora (at leas

Disable rpcbind on NFS server

2022-05-28 Thread Ian Pilcher
I don't need rpcbind, as I only use NFSv4. Is there any way to set up or configure the NFS server-related units (nfs-server.service, etc.) to not start rpcbind? -- Google Where S

Re: NFS Mount Problem

2022-03-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 3/16/22 22:16, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: Fresh install of F35. I have these lines in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.2://home/rikiheck/files /home/rikiheck/files nfs auto,nouser,rw,dev,nosuid,exec,_netdev 0 0 192.168.1.2://multi/  /mnt/mail/multi  nfs auto,user,noauto,rw

NFS Mount Problem

2022-03-16 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
Fresh install of F35. I have these lines in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.2://home/rikiheck/files /home/rikiheck/files nfs auto,nouser,rw,dev,nosuid,exec,_netdev 0 0 192.168.1.2://multi/  /mnt/mail/multi  nfs auto,user,noauto,rw,dev,nosuid,noexec,_netdev 0 0 192.168.1.2://home

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Frank Elsner via users
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:19:34 + Alex Gurenko via users wrote: > Happens to the best of us :) I assume that worked for you? Yes of course. Thanks again. --Frank ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to us

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Alex Gurenko via users
Happens to the best of us :) I assume that worked for you? --- Best regards, Alex --- Original Message --- On Thursday, February 17th, 2022 at 11:07, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:46:35 + Alex Gurenko via users wrote: > > > I would think that adding `sudo` to your c

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Frank Elsner via users
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:46:35 + Alex Gurenko via users wrote: > I would think that adding `sudo` to your command would fix your problem. Oh shit, I'm getting old. --Frank ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Alex Gurenko via users
I would think that adding `sudo` to your command would fix your problem. --- Best regards, Alex --- Original Message --- On Thursday, February 17th, 2022 at 10:37, Frank Elsner via users wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:28:11 +0100 Frank Elsner via users wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > on

Re: NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Frank Elsner via users
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:28:11 +0100 Frank Elsner via users wrote: > Hello, > > on my Fedora 36 system I've the following (strange) mount error: ^^ Typo, Fedora 35 of course. --Frank ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org

NFS mount and options

2022-02-17 Thread Frank Elsner via users
Hello, on my Fedora 36 system I've the following (strange) mount error: $ mount -t nfs christo:/misc/Backups /mnt mount.nfs: failed to apply fstab options In /etc/fstab there is no entry relating to /misc/Backups. What options? Kind regards, Frank E

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-02-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 1/31/22 02:11, Tim via users wrote: And at some stage people are going to stop making devices look for DHCP and fallback on Avahi, they'll decide to simplify things and just follow the latest fad. You'll end up with a gadget that only does Avahi. You have this quite confused. DHCP and mdns

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-02-01 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-02-01 at 22:38 +, Barry wrote: > I thought that mDNS that Avahi implements only uses multicast on the > LAN. You could set up multicast across multiple LAN segments. > > How does that end up getting answers from the internet? > Especially when all ISPs block multicast it seems.

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-02-01 Thread Barry
> On 1 Feb 2022, at 18:59, Tim via users wrote: > > If it doesn't already know the IP, then your computer can end up trying > to query public servers outside your LAN for the answers. I thought that mDNS that Avahi implements only uses multicast on the LAN. You could set up multicast across mu

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-02-01 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 21:52 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > ".arpa" is owned, and they're able to set rules about its usage (so > home.arpa was possible). Trying to set up a new top level domain, > such as .home, would require getting a plethora of organisations to > agree to something new, and requ

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/31/22 06:27, Ed Greshko wrote: I needed no such change to my F35's host file for it to function properly.  Probably will never find out why yours did. Probably because the server configuration was modified.  Robert reported: > On the server: > [plugh-3g ~]# cat /sys/module/nfsd/paramete

CentOS 8 (was Re: NFS client names not mapping)

2022-01-31 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 31/01/2022 14:39, Tim via users wrote: >> Not long ago, 16 Nov 2021, I had one of their email press releases >> stating that the latest version of 8 had just been released and that >> it's EOL would be 31 Dec 2021. I had to check that wasn't a typo. > > I do need to see wha

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 31/01/2022 22:19, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/30/22 11:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 31/01/2022 00:13, Robert Nichols wrote: FINALLY!! I can get it all to work by putting "fedora.local" in /etc/hostname _and_ editing  /etc/hosts to have "fedora.local" as the _first_ name for 127.0.0.1 . I ins

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/30/22 11:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 31/01/2022 00:13, Robert Nichols wrote: FINALLY!! I can get it all to work by putting "fedora.local" in /etc/hostname _and_ editing  /etc/hosts to have "fedora.local" as the _first_ name for 127.0.0.1 . I installed a Centos7 system and during the insta

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 20:41 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Linux had an interesting quirk of using ".localdomain" as its LAN > domain (at least on the few distros I've played with). Microsoft may > have used .mshome or .home (as my router uses, actually it also uses > .router, not that it tells you

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 16:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I don't know much about Avahi/Bonjour/mDNS/ZeroConf I think it is/was > a way to shoehorn Linux into some Windows environments. I hardly had > to deal with that. > > I also didn't deal much with SMB as only ever had a couple of Windows > syst

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 31/01/2022 14:39, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 13:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: I installed a Centos7 system and during the install process called it fedora.local. By default this was placed in etc/hostname. Wasn't ".local" and Avahi/Bonjour/mDNS/ZeroConf non-traditional DHCP an

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-30 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-01-31 at 13:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I installed a Centos7 system and during the install process called it > fedora.local. By default this was placed in etc/hostname. Wasn't ".local" and Avahi/Bonjour/mDNS/ZeroConf non-traditional DHCP and DNS thing? Does it still require diffe

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 31/01/2022 00:13, Robert Nichols wrote: FINALLY!! I can get it all to work by putting "fedora.local" in /etc/hostname _and_ editing  /etc/hosts to have "fedora.local" as the _first_ name for 127.0.0.1 . I installed a Centos7 system and during the install process called it fedora.local.  By

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-30 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/30/22 1:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 30/01/2022 12:36, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/29/22 8:25 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/29/22 17:20, Ed Greshko wrote: In the initial posting by Robert he wrote: "I have no nfs-idmapd service running" Right, but on recent kernels, the clie

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
, but "hostname --fqdn" responds with "hostname: Name or service not known", and "mount -t nfs ..." causes the various "... does not map into domain 'localdomain'" messages to be logged. I *think* the "name or service not known" message m

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 30/01/2022 12:36, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/29/22 8:25 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/29/22 17:20, Ed Greshko wrote: In the initial posting by Robert he wrote: "I have no nfs-idmapd service running" Right, but on recent kernels, the client doesn't use rpc.idmapd, it

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/29/22 8:25 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/29/22 17:20, Ed Greshko wrote: In the initial posting by Robert he wrote: "I have no nfs-idmapd service running" Right, but on recent kernels, the client doesn't use rpc.idmapd, it uses "nfsidmap".  The fact that

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/29/22 17:20, Ed Greshko wrote: In the initial posting by Robert he wrote: "I have no nfs-idmapd service running" Right, but on recent kernels, the client doesn't use rpc.idmapd, it uses "nfsidmap".  The fact that rpc.idmapd isn't running doesn't real

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 30/01/2022 07:44, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/28/22 23:32, Ed Greshko wrote: But I do have nfs-idmapd.service with "Domain = localdomain" in its configuration file. If I change that to "Domain = local" and restart nfs-idmapd.service I do get [root@fedora ~]# nf

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/28/22 23:32, Ed Greshko wrote: But I do have nfs-idmapd.service with "Domain = localdomain" in its configuration file. If I change that to "Domain = local" and restart nfs-idmapd.service I do get [root@fedora ~]# nfsidmap -d local But everything works no mat

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
with [root@fedora ~]# nfsidmap -d localdomain [root@fedora ~]# hostnamectl hostname fedora.local But I do have nfs-idmapd.service with "Domain = localdomain" in its configuration file. If I change that to "Domain = local" and restart nfs-idmapd.service I do get

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
: Name or service not known [fedora ~]# hostname fedora.local [fedora ~]# mount -t nfs  plugh-3g:/srv/shared /Public [fedora ~]# ll -d /Public drwxrws--x. 11 nobody nobody 4096 2022-01-28 17:20:50 /Public [fedora ~]# journalctl SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=nfsidmap | tail -4 Jan 28 21:19:14 fedora.local nfsidmap

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/28/22 06:08, Robert Nichols wrote: Where does Fedora get its domain name? When I type "hostname --fqdn" I get "hostname: Name or service not known". The CentOS 8 VM apparently gets its domain name from the /etc/hostname file, which contains "cent9-vm.local". This does not appear to work in

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/27/22 9:13 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:10:53 -0600 Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/26/22 7:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: What does the entry for that filesystem in /proc/mounts look like?  It should have negotiated mount options that shed some light.

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/28/22 8:53 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/01/2022 22:08, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/28/22 1:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 26/01/2022 00:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and n

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/01/2022 22:53, Ed Greshko wrote: Example: For the host that I mentioned I used "hostnamectl f35ser.greshko.com" Correction. hostnamectl hostname f35ser.greshko.com Too late in my day. -- Did 황준호 die? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/01/2022 22:08, Robert Nichols wrote: On 1/28/22 1:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 26/01/2022 00:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server a

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-28 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/28/22 1:03 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 26/01/2022 00:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are o

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 26/01/2022 00:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form: "name '@loca

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-27 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:10:53 -0600 Robert Nichols wrote: > On 1/26/22 7:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> What does the entry for that filesystem in /proc/mounts look like?  It >> should have negotiated mount options that shed some light. >> Maybe add the "sec=sys" mount option to the clien

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-27 Thread Robert Nichols
On 1/26/22 7:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 1/25/22 08:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are o

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/25/22 08:35, Robert Nichols wrote: In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form: "name '@loca

Re: NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-26 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:35:27 -0600 Robert Nichols wrote: > In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem > are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the > same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form: >

NFS client names not mapping

2022-01-25 Thread Robert Nichols
In a Fedora 35 VM, all users and groups in an NFS mounted filesystem are mapped to "nobody" even though the names and numeric IDs are the same on the server and client. The messages logged are of the form: "name '@local' does not map into domain 'local

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
Since some Fedora33 update in the last couple of weeks the problem has gone away. I haven't changed anything as far as I am aware. One change is that the kernel moved from 5.13.x to 5.14.x ... Terry On 21/10/2021 23:36, Reon Beon via users wrote: https://release-monitoring.org/project/2081/ We

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-21 Thread Reon Beon via users
https://release-monitoring.org/project/2081/ Well it is a pre-release version. 2.5.5.rc3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedo

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-06 Thread Terry Barnaby
Hi Roger, Thanks for looking. I will try NFS v3 with my latency tests running. I did try NFS v3 before and I "think" there were still desktop lockups but for a much shorter time. But this is just a feeling. Current kernel on both systems is: 5.13.19-100.fc33.x86_64. If I find the ti

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-05 Thread Roger Heflin
debugging would help (without having really verbose kernel debugging). What is the current kernel you are running and trying a new one might be worth it. Though I don't see nfs changes/fixes listed in the 5.14.* or 5.13.* kernels changelog in the rpm file (rpm -q --changelog) and there are only

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-05 Thread Terry Barnaby
23.98  6.99 10.26  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.01 10:54:04   lo  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00 Also NFV4 uses TCP/IP I think by default and TCP/IP retries would be much quicker than 45 seconds. I do feel there is an i

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-04 Thread Roger Heflin
0.000.000.00 0.00 > zram00.00 0.00 0.00 0.000.00 0.000.00 > 0.00 0.00 0.000.00 0.000.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 > 0.00 0.000.000.000.00 0.00 > > So nothing obvious on the disks of the server.

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-04 Thread Terry Barnaby
0.00   0.00    0.00 0.00    0.00  0.00 0.00   0.00    0.00 0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00   0.00 So nothing obvious on the disks of the server. I am pretty sure this is an NFS issue ... ___ users mailing list -- users

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-04 Thread Terry Barnaby
My disklatencytest showed a longish (14 secs) NFS file system directoty/stat lookup again today on a desktop: 2021-10-04T05:26:19 0.069486 0.069486 0.000570 /home/... 2021-10-04T05:28:19 0.269743 0.538000 0.001019 /home/... 2021-10-04T09:48:00 1.492158 0.003314

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-03 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 04/10/2021 00:51, Roger Heflin wrote: With 10 minute samples anything that happened gets averaged enough that even the worst event is almost impossible to see. Sar will report the same as date ie local time.  And a 12:51 event would be in the 13:00 sample (started at about 12:50 and ended a

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-03 Thread Roger Heflin
1 > 12:40:02 4804132 1 0 1 > > 12:40:02 totscktcpsckudpsckrawsck ip-fragtcp-tw > 12:50:02 4804132 1 0 1 > 13:00:00 4804132 1

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-03 Thread Terry Barnaby
01 13:10:00    490    43    32 101 sar -n NFS on the client 11:10:02  19.82 0.00 0.28  0.34  0.71 15.13 11:20:03  16.53 0.00 0.27  0.15  0.34 13.80 11:30:04  17.20 0.00 0.13  0.08

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-03 Thread Terry Barnaby
45 second event happened at: 2021-10-02T11:51:02 UTC. Not sure what sar time is based on (maybe local time BST  rather than UTC so would be 2021-10-02T12:51:02 BST. "sar -d" on the server: 11:50:02   dev8-0  4.67  0.01 46.62 0.00  9.99  0.12 14.03  5.75 11:50:0

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-02 Thread Roger Heflin
his because we expanded a nfs setup from 240 nodes (ran for months) to 270 or so and after that v3/tcp never worked right and tcpdumps and other info shows that the server was harvesting the "unused" connections once it had too many and the client was never handling it. It could

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-02 Thread Roger Heflin
fines in a dir. if you do ls -ld you will see how big the dir is if the dir is really big under some condition that can be slow, but usually not 45 seconds. On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 12:00 PM Terry Barnaby wrote: > I am getting more sure this is an NFS/networking issue rather than an > issu

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-02 Thread Terry Barnaby
I am getting more sure this is an NFS/networking issue rather than an issue with disks in the server. I created a small test program that given a directory finds a random file in a random directory three levels below, opens it and reads up to a block (512 Bytes) of data from it and times how

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 16:20, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > Thanks for the info, I am using MDraid. There are no "mddevice" messages > in /var/log/messages and smartctl -a lists no errors on any of the > disks. The disks are about 3 years old, I change them in servers between > 3 and 4 years old. > Wh

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Roger Heflin
gt; > > > So if nonzero note the number, and next pause look again and see if > > the numbers changed. > > ___ > > Thanks for the info, I am using MDraid. There are no "mddevice" messages > in /var/log/messages

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Terry Barnaby
n 3 and 4 years old. I will create a program to measure the effective sars output and detect any discrepancies as this problem only occurs now and then along with measuring iolatency on NFS accesses on the clients to see if I can track down if it is a server disk issue or an NFS issue. T

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Roger Heflin
it will show latency. await is average iotime in ms, and %util is calced based in await and iops/sec. So long as your turn sar down to 1 minute samples it should tell you which of the 2 disks had higher await/util%.With a 10 minute sample the 40sec pause may get spread out across enough iops

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Terry Barnaby
the drive self-tests. Is the pause long enough for you to figure out what is hanging? On either side? (I haven't used NFS for a couple of decades so I'm pretty rusty on the tooling.) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread Terry Barnaby
timeout, or it hits the disk firmware timeout. The sar data will show if one of the disks is being slow on the server end. On the client end you are unlikely to get anything useful from any samples as it seems pretty likely the server is not responding to nfs and/or the disks are not responding. It

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-10-01 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
ough for you to figure out what is hanging? On either side? (I haven't used NFS for a couple of decades so I'm pretty rusty on the tooling.) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le..

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Roger Heflin
. The sar data will show if one of the disks is being slow on the server end. On the client end you are unlikely to get anything useful from any samples as it seems pretty likely the server is not responding to nfs and/or the disks are not responding. It could be as simple as on login it tries to

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:50:01 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: > Yes, problems often occur due to you having done something, but I am > pretty sure nothing has changed apart from Fedora updates. But hardware is sneaky. It waits for you to install software updates, the breaks itself to make you think th

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 30/09/2021 11:42, Roger Heflin wrote: On mine when I first access the NFS volume it takes 5-10 seconds for the disks to spin up.  Mine will spin down later in the day if little or nothing is going on and I will get another delay. I have also seen delays if a disk gets bad blocks and

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
Ethernet network is fine including cables, switches Ethernet adapters etc. Pings are fine etc. It just appears that the client programs get a huge (> 20 secs) delayed response to accesses to /home every now and then which points to NFS issues. Most of the system stats counters just give the amount of

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Roger Heflin
On mine when I first access the NFS volume it takes 5-10 seconds for the disks to spin up. Mine will spin down later in the day if little or nothing is going on and I will get another delay. I have also seen delays if a disk gets bad blocks and corrects them. About 1/2 of time that does have a

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Ed Greshko
es Ethernet adapters etc. Pings are fine etc. It just appears that the client programs get a huge (> 20 secs) delayed response to accesses to /home every now and then which points to NFS issues. Most of the system stats counters just give the amount of access, not the latency of an access w

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
es Ethernet adapters etc. Pings are fine etc. It just appears that the client programs get a huge (> 20 secs) delayed response to accesses to /home every now and then which points to NFS issues. Most of the system stats counters just give the amount of access, not the latency of an access which

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-26 Thread Roger Heflin
$ ping -m DO -s 8972 ip.address > > This example should be the highest value to work in the case of MTU size > 9000, there is 28 byte overhead for IPv4 packets. > > Second, are you sure no one is attaching to the network and duplicating the > MAC address of your NFS server or perha

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-26 Thread Jamie Fargen
example should be the highest value to work in the case of MTU size 9000, there is 28 byte overhead for IPv4 packets. Second, are you sure no one is attaching to the network and duplicating the MAC address of your NFS server or perhaps the system that is stalled? If the switches are manageable you would

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 10:26:19 -0300 George N. White III wrote: > If you have cron jobs that use a lot of network bandwidth it may work > fine until some network issue causing lots of retransmits bogs it down. Which is why you should check the dumb stuff first! Has a critter chewed on the ethernet

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-26 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 26 Sept 2021 at 01:44, Tim via users wrote: > On Sat, 2021-09-25 at 06:04 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > in the last month or so all of the client computers are getting KDE > > GUI lockups every few hours that last for around 40 secs. > > Might one of them have a cron job that's scouring

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-25 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2021-09-25 at 06:04 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > in the last month or so all of the client computers are getting KDE > GUI lockups every few hours that last for around 40 secs. Might one of them have a cron job that's scouring the network? e.g. locate databasing -- uname -rsvp Linux

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-25 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 25 Sept 2021 at 02:04, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Hi, > > I use NFS mount (defaults so V4) /home directories with a simple server > over Gigabit Ethernet all running Fedora33. This has been working fine > for 25+ years through various Fedora versions. However in the last month

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-25 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 25/09/2021 09:00, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/09/2021 14:07, Terry Barnaby wrote: A few questions. 1.  Are you saying your NFS server HW is the same for the past 25 years.  Couldn't have been all Fedora, right? No ( :) ) was using previous Linux and Unix systems before then. Certain

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 25/09/2021 14:07, Terry Barnaby wrote: A few questions. 1.  Are you saying your NFS server HW is the same for the past 25 years.   Couldn't have been all Fedora, right? No ( :) ) was using previous Linux and Unix systems before then. Certainly OS versions and hardware has changed

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-24 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 25/09/2021 06:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/09/2021 13:04, Terry Barnaby wrote: Hi, I use NFS mount (defaults so V4) /home directories with a simple server over Gigabit Ethernet all running Fedora33. This has been working fine for 25+ years through various Fedora versions. However in the

Re: NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 25/09/2021 13:04, Terry Barnaby wrote: Hi, I use NFS mount (defaults so V4) /home directories with a simple server over Gigabit Ethernet all running Fedora33. This has been working fine for 25+ years through various Fedora versions. However in the last month or so all of the client

NFS mount lockups since about a month ago

2021-09-24 Thread Terry Barnaby
Hi, I use NFS mount (defaults so V4) /home directories with a simple server over Gigabit Ethernet all running Fedora33. This has been working fine for 25+ years through various Fedora versions. However in the last month or so all of the client computers are getting KDE GUI lockups every few

Re: NFS mount

2021-09-05 Thread Dave Close
Roger Heflin wrote: >Fedora 33 shows this on recent kernels: ># CONFIG_NFS_V2 is not set >So disabled in the kernel seems likely for 34 also. > >You would have to rebuild a kernel with that set to =m and boot that >for v2 to work. Thanks. You are absolutely correct. My first thought was that the

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