Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-30 Thread Joe Average
Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > > interface that I use to connect with internet from fedora. > > It is an USB wireless connection regarding USB is the Oracle_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-7.2.2.vbox-extpack installed ??? currently don't know if needed when the rpmfusion VB is

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-30 Thread Joe Average
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 7:47 AM Joe Average sixpac...@online.de wrote: > > What VM software are you using? > I seem to recall Virtual Box had some sharp edges when using a > wireless adapter. Something along the lines of the internet did not > work for NAT'd guests when

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-30 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> Subject: Re: Issue with Virtual machine > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 7:47 AM Joe Average wrote: > > > > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > > > interface that I use to connect with internet from fedora. > > > It is an USB wireless connection > &g

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-30 Thread Joe Average
Patrick Dupre wrote: > interface that I use to connect with internet from fedora. > It is an USB wireless connection > With the VM, the interface offers me > NAT > Bridged Adapter > the other options are not relevant I guess > With NAT there are no additional option > The connection seems work

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-28 Thread Joe Average
Patrick Dupre wrote: ... > Do I need to remove > kmod-VirtualBox-6.16.7-200.fc42.x86_64-7.2.2-1.fc42 (none) > kmod-VirtualBox-6.16.8-200.fc42.x86_64-7.2.2-1.fc42 (none) depends on what kernels are installed. AFAIK kmod's gets de-installed when the the related kernel gets de-Installed --

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-28 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
On Sat, 27 Sep 2025 11:57:44 +0200 Patrick Dupre via users wrote: [...] > > What gives: rpm -qi akmod-VirtualBox > Name: akmod-VirtualBox [...] > Packager: RPM Fusion > Vendor : RPM Fusion akmod-VirtualBox is thus from the rpmfusion repo. Verify that this is the case for all th

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-27 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:16:29 +0200 > Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > > > What do you think of > > It seems that there are some issues ! > > Yes. See below (and also: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message: > > Trim irrelevant mater

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-26 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
On Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:16:29 +0200 Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > What do you think of > It seems that there are some issues ! Yes. See below (and also: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message: Trim irrelevant material. ) > dnf list --ex

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-26 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
What do you think of It seems that there are some issues ! dnf list --extras Updating and loading repositories: Webmin Distribution Neutral 100% | 948.0 B/s | 3.1 KiB | 00m03s Visual Studio Code 100% | 1.8 KiB/s | 1.5 KiB | 00m01s vivaldi-snapshot 100% | 3.5 KiB/s | 3.0 KiB | 00m01s RPM Fusion for

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-25 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > Francis Montagnac wrote: > ... > > > Use for example either "rpm -qi" or "dnf list" (if you used dnf to > > dnf list --help > gives > ... > --extras List extras, that is packages installed on > the system that are not available in any known repository. > ... > > s

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-25 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Joe, Following your last message, I have the same configuration than yours Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : . IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : fd17:625c:f037:2:f894:cb4:e005:a83f Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : fd17:625c:f037:2:c431:9b88:

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-24 Thread Joe Average
Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > I am not sure that it is entirely relevant for the list. > I use oracle VM and Windows 7 > I cannot connect on internet from windows: unidentified connection is it Vbox Version 7.2.2 ? if so I had some newtork connection problems too. It seems Oracle introduced a n

Re: Issue with Virtual machine

2025-09-24 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
> > Bridged adapter: cable connected > > all give: IP 169.254.168.63 > > The 169.254 address is an Automatic Private IP Addressing (APIPA). You > are missing a DHCP server somewhere. Or maybe you are missing a > component that allows access to the DHCP server, like dnsmasq. You are probably righ

strange issue after recent firefox upgrade?

2025-09-22 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Start firefox and see this with it open. ps -ef | grep firefox msetzer+35723230 3 10:41 ?00:00:03 /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox --sm-client-id 2fa4148c8-a0f1-4911-9ab5-c07f3c86e623 msetzer+3633 1 0 10:41 ?00:00:00 /usr/lib64/firefox/crashhelper 3572 9 /tmp/ 10 12

Re: vlc issue

2025-09-14 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
[this is a resend, the first time it accidentally went off list] On 15/9/25 00:22, Marco Moock wrote: Am 15.09.2025 um 00:14:36 Uhr schrieb fed...@eyal.emu.id.au: $ cvlc https://mediaserviceslive.akamaized.net/hls/live/2038319/abcjazz/index.m3u8 VLC media player 3.0.21 Vetinari (revisi

Re: vlc issue

2025-09-14 Thread Tim via users
Eyal wrote: >> $ cvlc >> https://mediaserviceslive.akamaized.net/hls/live/2038319/abcjazz/index.m3u8 >> VLC media player 3.0.21 Vetinari (revision 3.0.21-0-gdd8bfdbabe8) >> [559a0952a070] dummy interface: using the dummy interface module... >> [7fad31012b70] adaptive demux: Changing stream

Re: vlc issue

2025-09-14 Thread Marco Moock
Am 15.09.2025 um 00:14:36 Uhr schrieb fed...@eyal.emu.id.au: > $ cvlc > https://mediaserviceslive.akamaized.net/hls/live/2038319/abcjazz/index.m3u8 > VLC media player 3.0.21 Vetinari (revision 3.0.21-0-gdd8bfdbabe8) > [559a0952a070] dummy interface: using the dummy interface > module...

vlc issue

2025-09-14 Thread fedora
The problem I describe here is not seen when running vlc on ubuntu 24.04 laptop, so maybe it is a fedora issue? I use fedora 42 with latest updates applied. I try to listen to a live radio stream. Our national broadcaster (ABC) lists the recommended urls here https://help.abc.net.au

OT: Issue with wine-devel and winehq-devel seems resolved with 10.9

2025-08-30 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
tried with 10.9 to 10.13, but still falures. The 10.14 has now resolved the issue for me. On older Acer Asprie notebook with dual core cpu that doesn't have AVX flag. So, if others have had problem, might want to look at 10.14. +-

Re: OT: Issue with winehq-devel not working on some machines after 10.8 (10.9 thru 10.12) with Fedora 42, but works on same machine

2025-08-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi Michael, Not what you asked, BUT WHEN DOES THAT STOP ME I use Wine a lot. It is terrible code. Alpha stage at best. Wine is really only usable with video games, where it excels. Thirty one year ago when I started my business, I wrote my account code in Lotus Approach (part of Smart

Re: OT: Issue with winehq-devel not working on some machines after 10.8 (10.9 thru 10.12) with Fedora 42, but works on same mac

2025-08-14 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 14 Aug 2025 at 12:54, Samuel Sieb wrote: Date sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 12:54:13 -0700 Subject:Re: OT: Issue with winehq-devel not working on some machines after 10.8 (10.9 thru 10.12) with Fedora 42, but works on same machine To: users

Re: OT: Issue with winehq-devel not working on some machines after 10.8 (10.9 thru 10.12) with Fedora 42, but works on same machine

2025-08-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/14/25 9:17 AM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: Is an old Acer notebook, but others have also had issues in Wine Bugzilla. Seems to have issue with AVX flag not supported in CPU. Simple test $ wine notepad 002c:err:seh:NtRaiseException Unhandled exception code c005 flags 0 addr

OT: Issue with winehq-devel not working on some machines after 10.8 (10.9 thru 10.12) with Fedora 42, but works on same machine

2025-08-14 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Is an old Acer notebook, but others have also had issues in Wine Bugzilla. Seems to have issue with AVX flag not supported in CPU. Simple test $ wine notepad 002c:err:seh:NtRaiseException Unhandled exception code c005 flags 0 addr 0x6fc4c573 0034:err:seh:NtRaiseException Unhandled

Re: can I issue commands to X session from a text vt?

2025-07-22 Thread fedora
On 22/7/25 23:38, Francis Montagnac via users wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 15:16:39 +0200 Francis Montagnac via users wrote: Try thus this (from tty2): chvt 1; sleep 1; xrandr --display :0 --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160 Fix: chvt needs to be run as root, thus: sudo chvt 1; sleep 1;

Re: can I issue commands to X session from a text vt?

2025-07-22 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 15:16:39 +0200 Francis Montagnac via users wrote: > Try thus this (from tty2): > chvt 1; sleep 1; xrandr --display :0 --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160 Fix: chvt needs to be run as root, thus: sudo chvt 1; sleep 1; xrandr --display :0 --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160 --

Re: can I issue commands to X session from a text vt?

2025-07-22 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 21:28:20 +1000 fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: > On 22/7/25 18:16, Barry Scott wrote: >> Try like this: >> >> XAUTHORITY=/run/user/1000/xauth_icQwML DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm > I do not have any (my uid is 500) > /run/user/500/xauth_* > 'locate' knows of none either. locate

Re: can I issue commands to X session from a text vt?

2025-07-22 Thread Sam Varshavchik
fed...@eyal.emu.id.au writes: However, trying xterm -display :0 -e xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160 or xterm -display :0 -e xrandr --display :0 --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160 or even xterm -hold -display :0 -e xrandr --display :0 --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160 does not re

Re: can I issue commands to X session from a text vt?

2025-07-22 Thread fedora
and running 'xrandr --listmonitors' shows the monitor is initially disconnected and then connected. So Xorg thinks all is well, but I get no video (maybe an intel x11-server issue?). Does it work if you use Wayland desktop? I never tried it and would not take the risk right no

Re: can I issue commands to X session from a text vt?

2025-07-22 Thread Barry Scott
g 'xrandr --listmonitors' shows the monitor > is initially disconnected and then connected. > So Xorg thinks all is well, but I get no video (maybe an intel x11-server > issue?). Does it work if you use Wayland desktop? > > I can switch to text (e.g. tty2) which works fine

can I issue commands to X session from a text vt?

2025-07-21 Thread fedora
d. So Xorg thinks all is well, but I get no video (maybe an intel x11-server issue?). I can switch to text (e.g. tty2) which works fine (is visible), but when switching back to tty1 the screen is blank. Running 'xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 3840x2160_24.00' revives the video. However

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz via users
On 7/10/25 11:29 PM, Barry wrote: On 10 Jul 2025, at 11:32, Will McDonald wrote: The only time I see this with Gnome Terminal. If you... 1. CTRL-SHIFT-C 2. then CTRL-V 3. then remember it's CTRL-SHIFT-V The preceding CTRL-V does something to the terminal input, I think it's just a litera

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Barry
> On 10 Jul 2025, at 11:32, Will McDonald wrote: > > The only time I see this with Gnome Terminal. If you... > > 1. CTRL-SHIFT-C > 2. then CTRL-V > 3. then remember it's CTRL-SHIFT-V > > The preceding CTRL-V does something to the terminal input, I think it's just > a literal ^V in the buffe

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
On 7/10/25 6:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz via users wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 11:00, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: I haven't been able to figure out what causes this or a solution to fix it other than manually deleting the text. I assume you mean ^[[[200~ copied text ~ app

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz via users
On 7/10/25 6:32 AM, Will McDonald wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 11:00, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: I haven't been able to figure out what causes this or a solution to fix it other than manually deleting the text. I assume you mean ^[[[200~ copied text ~ appears in you

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 08:14:58 -0400 Go Canes wrote: > I also see this with Konsole under KDE. Me also sometimes with xterm. This is due to tha fact that the terminal has entered bracketed paste mode. You can force leaving this mode with (under bash): echo -e '\033[?2004l' Refs: https://en.wi

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Go Canes
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 6:32 AM Will McDonald wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 11:00, Michael D. Setzer II via users > wrote: >> >> I haven't been able to figure out what causes this or a solution to fix >> it other than manually deleting the text. > > > I assume you mean ^[[[200~ copied text ~

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2025-07-10 at 20:41 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > > The preceding CTRL-V does something to the terminal input, I think it's > > just a literal ^V in the buffer. > > Thanks might well be. Sometimes make the mistake. In terminal it > is Ctrl-Shift, but then in apps like fi

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 10 Jul 2025 at 11:32, Will McDonald wrote: From: Will McDonald Date sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 11:32:05 +0100 Subject:Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~ To: mi...@guam.net, Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 7:00 AM Michael D. Setzer II via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I haven't been able to figure out what causes this or a solution to fix > it other than manually deleting the text. > > Doesn't happen a lot, but rebooting makes it go back to normal. > > Happe

Re: Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Will McDonald
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 11:00, Michael D. Setzer II via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I haven't been able to figure out what causes this or a solution to fix > it other than manually deleting the text. > I assume you mean ^[[[200~ copied text ~ appears in your paste contents. Th

Random Copy Paste issue ^[[[200~ copied text ~

2025-07-10 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
I haven't been able to figure out what causes this or a solution to fix it other than manually deleting the text. Doesn't happen a lot, but rebooting makes it go back to normal. Happens on command line, but if trying to paste into other programs often results in nothing being pasted at all. So

Re: Issue with winehq-devel 10.9

2025-06-11 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 11 Jun 2025 at 7:55, George N. White III wrote: From: "George N. White III" Date sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 07:55:58 -0300 Subject: Re: Issue with winehq-devel 10.9 To: mi...@guam.net, Community support for Fedora users > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 9

Re: Issue with winehq-devel 10.9

2025-06-11 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 9:40 PM Michael D. Setzer II via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Having a failure on one of my Fedora 42 systems with winehq-devel > 10.9 not working while 10.8 works fine. Other machines work fine. > [...] > Had found something saying might be a memory error

Issue with winehq-devel 10.9

2025-06-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Having a failure on one of my Fedora 42 systems with winehq-devel 10.9 not working while 10.8 works fine. Other machines work fine. After upgrade wine notepad 002c:err:seh:NtRaiseException Unhandled exception code c005 flags 0 addr 0x6fc4c133 0034:err:seh:NtRaiseException Unhandled excep

Advanced Github Notifier Firefox plugin layout issue

2025-05-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
e bit bigger than the plugin thinks it is, so things get cut off, especially above and below the notification text. I hope that the tiny attached image makes it clear what I'm talking about, see below. This seems to be issue on Fedora, hence me asking here. The notifications' la

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Garry T. Williams writes: On Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:45:44 EDT Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3 > years, max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and > latest and greatest. I just updated a workstation to f41 and didn't

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 22:16 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:45:44 EDT Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3 > > years, max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and > > latest and greatest. > > I j

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/20/25 10:40 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 22:16 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: Wayland is still broken as far as I am concerned when it comes to session restore stuff and new window placement. But I notice that I can ssh to that system and run x11 apps (over the local net

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 20:51 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I rooted through all of the gory details, icccm, ewmh, and X11 primitives, > some time ago. It's all there. The fly in the ointment is that the nuts and > the bolts of it are difficult use, cumbersome, and lack some convenient > feat

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 22:16 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: > Wayland is still broken as far as I am concerned when it comes to > session restore stuff and new window placement. But I notice that I > can ssh to that system and run x11 apps (over the local network) no > problem. Wayland supplies a

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Sunday, 20 April 2025 17:45:44 EDT Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3 > years, max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and > latest and greatest. I just updated a workstation to f41 and didn't install the x11 KDE componen

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 17:45 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > One of the big problems with containers (including Flatpaks) is that > > they don't integrate well with the desktop environment. Then the app > > relies on the DE to (say) print things, there's usually some

F41->F42 Postgresql Collation issue

2025-04-20 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings,    When the flip to F41 from F40 occurred last October I posted some emails and received helpful replies regarding a collation issue; the message on this go around is: WARNING:  database "" has a collation version mismatch DE

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
ction. It just works. > > I estimate that I'll be able to use my setup for no more than 2-3 years,  > max, before X11 is sacrificed on the altar of progress, and latest and  > greatest. The issue is not specific to one windowing system. Both X11 and Wayland based DEs have th

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 04/20/2025 06:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I think what this is, overall, is watching idiocracy evolve, in realtime. Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows but don't

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 08:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > The Firefox snap in Ubuntu doesn't even start in a VNC session. Everyone > appears to be ok with fiddling with environment variables, in order to do > that. Nobody appears to believe that there's something

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 11:54 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows > refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows > but don't want to learn how to do things properly. I'd come to a similar conclusion. Windows refug

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/20/2025 06:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I think what this is, overall, is watching idiocracy evolve, in realtime. Personally, I've always considered Ubuntu to be designed for Windows refugees. They want to get away from the built in problems of Windows but don't want to learn how to

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2025-04-20 at 08:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Tim via users writes: > > > 3) Thanks to sandboxing, or just plain lack of functionality, > >we get apps that can't print, for instance. > > > > I've got ones that can't, I have to print to PDF, then find something > > else to print

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: 3) Thanks to sandboxing, or just plain lack of functionality, we get apps that can't print, for instance. I've got ones that can't, I have to print to PDF, then find something else to print that PDF (which will fail when they eventually appimage the whatever that prints

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-20 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > But I'd argue that the hierarchies were there for a good reason. > > *Simple* no-access to some things for some people/software. *Simple* > > more privileged access to things in /sbin to those who had it in their > > path, and lesser privileged versions of a command with the same name to

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2025-04-19 at 17:07 +, Bob Marčan via users wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 09:11:16 -0300 > "George N. White III" wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:32 PM Tim via users > > wrote: > > On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 18:38 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > > This malarkey is up there wit

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-19 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 09:11:16 -0300 "George N. White III" wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:32 PM Tim via users > wrote: > On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 18:38 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > This malarkey is up there with we can't have /usr in a separate mount > > point, any more, because we've put

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-19 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:32 PM Tim via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 18:38 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I forgot what were the actual, technical reasons for collapsing bin > > and sbin, except for "other distributions did it too". But the deed > > is

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: Hell, why don't just we just dump *everything* into one huge directory? That's make it really easy to manage (not). I get the impression that there's too many un-trained programmers in the world, and much of what they've learned has come from bad examples. This malarkey i

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 18:38 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I forgot what were the actual, technical reasons for collapsing bin > and sbin, except for "other distributions did it too". But the deed > is done, and one just has to deal with the aftermath: The artificial idiot listed these summaries:

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Charles Dennett writes: Just wanted to add that I found a bugzilla report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2360491 I predict there's going to be a lot of this, for a year or so. I forgot what were the actual, technical reasons for collapsing bin and sbin, except for "other dis

Re: Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Charles Dennett
On 4/18/25 9:36 AM, Charles Dennett wrote: Upgraded my home server/desktop machine yesterday and all seemed ok. When I checked this morning I discovered that output from overnight cron jobs had gone to the journal log rather than being emailed to me.  Also logwatch had failed to run. I quickl

Fedora 42 upgrade issue with mail

2025-04-18 Thread Charles Dennett
Upgraded my home server/desktop machine yesterday and all seemed ok. When I checked this morning I discovered that output from overnight cron jobs had gone to the journal log rather than being emailed to me. Also logwatch had failed to run. I quickly checked logwatch first by manually running

Re: DNF Openjdk Update Issue in F41

2025-02-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/2/25 08:39, Tim Evans wrote: On 2/11/25 4:23 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: The java-17-openjdk package is deprecated and may no longer receive updates. Since f42 install adoptium-temurin-java-repository and install temurin-17-jre https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ThirdPartyLegacyJdks#a

Re: DNF Openjdk Update Issue in F41

2025-02-11 Thread Tim Evans
On 2/11/25 4:23 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: The java-17-openjdk package is deprecated and may no longer receive updates. Since f42 install adoptium-temurin-java-repository and install temurin-17-jre https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ThirdPartyLegacyJdks#adoptium- temurin-java-repository I

DNF Openjdk Update Issue in F41

2025-02-11 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     A "sudo dnf upgrade" produced the following messages twice at the beginning of the update process and again with the trigger scripts. These messages provide instructions for what to do in F42, but what is the solution for F41, or isn't there?     Also, what is the dnf 5 logs related

Re: DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-19 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/12/24 09:22, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 5:09 PM Stephen Morris wrote: On 17/12/24 12:46, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 09:37 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Why does dnf show the download, install and cleanup timings starting as negative values? Is it a cou

Re: DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 5:09 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > On 17/12/24 12:46, Tim via users wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 09:37 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > Why does dnf show the download, install and cleanup timings starting > as negative values? > > Is it a countdown to estimated time of c

Re: DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/12/24 12:46, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 09:37 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Why does dnf show the download, install and cleanup timings starting as negative values? Is it a countdown to estimated time of completion? I can see some logic in doing things that way. Although

Re: DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-16 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 09:37 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > Why does dnf show the download, install and cleanup timings starting > as negative values? Is it a countdown to estimated time of completion? I can see some logic in doing things that way. Although such things are rarely correct, it coul

Re: DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-16 Thread Stephen Morris
heck your scripts. When the message from the last script is shown, why does the "i" letter in the work "completing" replaced by an "!"? No idea. Check your script. These scripts are scripts being run as part of DNF package cleanup, they are not my scripts. Having

Re: DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 5:38 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > On 15/12/24 14:32, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 6:59 PM Stephen Morris > wrote: > > When I run "sudo dnf upgrade", as an example, and it displays the stats for > the downloads, installs and Removes (cleanup), the elap

Re: DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 15/12/24 14:32, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 6:59 PM Stephen Morris wrote: When I run "sudo dnf upgrade", as an example, and it displays the stats for the downloads, installs and Removes (cleanup), the elapsed time column shows the times starting as negative and increasing

Re: DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 6:59 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > When I run "sudo dnf upgrade", as an example, and it displays the stats for > the downloads, installs and Removes (cleanup), the elapsed time column shows > the times starting as negative and increasing to 0 and above, and then when > th

DNF Stats Issue

2024-12-14 Thread Stephen Morris
When I run "sudo dnf upgrade", as an example, and it displays the stats for the downloads, installs and Removes (cleanup), the elapsed time column shows the times starting as negative and increasing to 0 and above, and then when the process is finished it then displays the time as the positive

Re: Web site issue

2024-12-02 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-12-01 at 16:03 +, Bob Marčan via users wrote: > Try any recipe in kulinarika.net. > For each recipe I get "Gah. Your Tab Just Crashed." > Firefox. > Validator? Disaster. > It would be interesting to find out which "tool" they use. HTML + JavaScript fed through a blender and fun

Re: Web site issue

2024-12-01 Thread Doug H.
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024, at 4:29 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > I can not get this web site to render properly > on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five > web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). > > https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water > > But, I can with qe

Re: Web site issue

2024-12-01 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 07:21:15 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" wrote: ... Oh no fooling! I ran it through W3C's validator: > > https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tiyproducts.com%2Fproducts%2Fbasic-tiy-water > > it was a MASSACRE! > -- Try any recipe in kulinarika.net. For each r

Re: Web site issue

2024-12-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/30/24 21:50, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 16:29 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I can not get this web site to render properly on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water

Re: Web site issue

2024-11-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 16:29 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I can not get this web site to render properly > on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five > web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). > > https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water > Look at the source code. Ma

Re: Web site issue

2024-11-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/30/24 16:40, Stephen Morris wrote: On 1/12/24 11:29, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I can not get this web site to render properly on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water But,

Re: Web site issue

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/24 11:29, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I can not get this web site to render properly on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water But, I can with qemu-kvm Tiny-11 (Stripped Wind

Web site issue

2024-11-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I can not get this web site to render properly on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water But, I can with qemu-kvm Tiny-11 (Stripped Windows 11) operated through my FC41 host's firewall

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 11/30/24 2:12 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Before doing that I booted the XFCE spin on the first laptop and it had the same problem. This ruled out a firnware difference as the issue. Then I burned the workstation image and booted it. No issues. I checked, and both

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
lem for you? > > Before doing that I booted the XFCE spin on the first laptop and it > had the same problem. This ruled out a firnware difference as the > issue. > > Then I burned the workstation image and booted it. No issues. > > I checked, and both the workstation i

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
nd it had the same problem. This ruled out a firnware difference as the issue. Then I burned the workstation image and booted it. No issues. I checked, and both the workstation image and the XFCE spin have the same kernel, 6.11.4. So, it's something specific to the XFCE spin and that

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Leach
Before doing that I booted the XFCE spin on the first laptop and it > had the same problem. This ruled out a firnware difference as the > issue. > > Then I burned the workstation image and booted it. No issues. > > I checked, and both the workstation image and the XFCE spin

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
out a firnware difference as the issue. Then I burned the workstation image and booted it. No issues. I checked, and both the workstation image and the XFCE spin have the same kernel, 6.11.4. I've used the workstation live image on multiple systems with no problems and obviously there have

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/30/24 8:31 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I've been using a Framework 16 laptop that was originally installed with F40 and updated to F41 (XFCE Spin), without any issues. I just ran into a hillarious installation issue, posting it here in order to feed the search engines. I just recei

F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I've been using a Framework 16 laptop that was originally installed with F40 and updated to F41 (XFCE Spin), without any issues. I just ran into a hillarious installation issue, posting it here in order to feed the search engines. I just received a second Framework 16, so I fed th

Re: security issue?

2024-11-29 Thread Stephen Morris
On 29/11/24 10:59, Barry wrote: On 28 Nov 2024, at 22:45, Stephen Morris wrote: being /usr/bin/egrep and /usr/bin/fgrep because it has said they have been replaced by a script, is that standard Fedora? Did you check what was in the files and where they were installed from? The scripts print

Re: [closed] Re: security issue?

2024-11-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2024-11-29 at 20:37 +, Will McDonald wrote: > Indeed. I've jumped between RH-based and Debian-based distros a little in > the last few years. I started tracking some of the deltas here: > https://github.com/wmcdonald404/distrosetta-stone You might want to change the yum references to d

Re: [closed] Re: security issue?

2024-11-29 Thread Will McDonald
On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 at 20:01, George N. White III wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 3:09 PM Will McDonald wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 at 18:20, home user via users < >> users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> There's a lot of commonality across most distros, so while something (the >> link I

Re: [closed] Re: security issue?

2024-11-29 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 3:09 PM Will McDonald wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 at 18:20, home user via users < > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > There's a lot of commonality across most distros, so while something (the > link I referenced, for example) was from an Ask Ubuntu branch of > Stack

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