Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-02-04 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 02/04/2011 12:21 PM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 20:47 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: >> There is no need for NetworkManager in a home network anyway, it >> just adds complications, gets in the way and consumes resources. > > Maybe on *your* home network. But it's good for mine, and when I

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-02-04 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 20:47 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: > There is no need for NetworkManager in a home network anyway, it > just adds complications, gets in the way and consumes resources. Maybe on *your* home network. But it's good for mine, and when I take the laptop around to visit other plac

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-02-03 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 02/01/2011 06:30 PM, JB wrote: > Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > >> ... >> Note I am using the "network" not "NetworkManager" service. The >> NetworkManager >> service does not work well for me with systems using networked /home and >> other file systems. >> ... > > Looks like the reason

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-02-02 Thread JB
Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > ... > I'm not sure why /home uses NFS 3 while the others use NFS4. > They are from the same server and there is no specific config > for 3 or 4, so on Fedora 14 I would have expected them to be 4. > The server is Fedora 14 as well. > ... The analysis above i

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-02-01 Thread JB
Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > ... > Note I am using the "network" not "NetworkManager" service. The NetworkManager > service does not work well for me with systems using networked /home and > other file systems. > ... Looks like the reason for this is: # ls /etc/rc0.d/* ... S00killall S

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem [Wandering OT]

2011-01-31 Thread charles zeitler
-- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I don't want to hijack the main thread, so I've changed the subject > slightly.  I've been wondering something and it finally got to the point > that I had to ask: is it just me, or does an

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-31 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... 1. Add firewall log rules to ip(6)tables (both client and server). To capture any nfs3 or nfs4 related errors (some traffic may be unsolicited: error or control messages, NEW in terms of iptables) /etc/sysconfig/iptables: /etc/sysconfig/ip6tables: ... # log

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem [Wandering OT]

2011-01-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/30/2011 01:16 PM, JB wrote: > This is what I found. > > Akonadi. > A Ghanaian oracular goddess who was worshipped by many West Africans. In > Accra, > she had a celebrated oracular shrine. Akonadi is also a deity associated with > justice and the protection of women. > Thank you. Now I kno

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread JB
Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > ... > Thanks for the info. selinux is actually disabled on all of these > systems. I'm not sure why /home uses NFS 3 while the others use NFS4. > They are from the same server and there is no specific config > for 3 or 4, so on Fedora 14 I would have expected

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 01/30/2011 08:40 PM, JB wrote: > Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > >> ... > > Your analysis is very plausible. > I remember from Slackware (many years ago ...) - it took explicit steps to > TERM active processes, reasonably waited for them, and then killed them. > > I tried to follow the se

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem [Wandering OT]

2011-01-30 Thread JB
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > > On 01/30/2011 12:52 PM, JB wrote: > > Joe, > > I do not mean to be touchy, but ... your [Wandering OT] is really strange > > > > It is KDE related. That's all as far as what we are doing here in this > > thread. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akonadi > > > > Be s

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem [Wandering OT]

2011-01-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/30/2011 12:52 PM, JB wrote: > Joe, > I do not mean to be touchy, but ... your [Wandering OT] is really strange :-) > > It is KDE related. That's all as far as what we are doing here in this thread. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akonadi > > Be serious ... :-) This is why I put it into a new

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem [Wandering OT]

2011-01-30 Thread JB
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > > On 01/30/2011 11:54 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > I am fairly sure the problem is the akonadi/pulseaudio/gconf-helper > dcopserver > > I don't want to hijack the main thread, so I've changed the subject > slightly. I've been wondering something and it finally got

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread JB
Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > ... Your analysis is very plausible. I remember from Slackware (many years ago ...) - it took explicit steps to TERM active processes, reasonably waited for them, and then killed them. I tried to follow the selinux line as well. The support for nfs home dirs

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem [Wandering OT]

2011-01-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/30/2011 11:54 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > I am fairly sure the problem is the akonadi/pulseaudio/gconf-helper/dcopserver I don't want to hijack the main thread, so I've changed the subject slightly. I've been wondering something and it finally got to the point that I had to ask: is it just

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 01/30/2011 06:51 PM, JB wrote: > Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > >> ... > > Firstly, I have to re-correct myself - my original debugging statemets were > correct. > I checked it on my machine and /proc/mounts is still available, so we should > include it as it has more info than /etc/mtab

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread JB
Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > ... Firstly, I have to re-correct myself - my original debugging statemets were correct. I checked it on my machine and /proc/mounts is still available, so we should include it as it has more info than /etc/mtab. It could give us a clue about any other mount-

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 01/30/2011 05:55 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > On 01/30/2011 02:11 PM, JB wrote: >> JB gmail.com> writes: >> >>> >>> # >>> # debugging snapshot statements >>> # >>>

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 01/30/2011 02:11 PM, JB wrote: > JB gmail.com> writes: > >> >> # >> # debugging snapshot statements >> # >> date>> /halt.debug >> cat /etc/mtab>> /halt.debug >> c

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > > # > # debugging snapshot statements > # > date >> /halt.debug > cat /etc/mtab >> /halt.debug > cat /proc/mounts >> /halt.debug > # #

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread JB
Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > > Hi, > > About 1 in 4 times Fedora 14 hangs during shutdown on at least 4 of my > systems. > Looking at the shutdown messages (ESC in the splash screen) and adding some > debug statements to /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/S01halt, it hangs after the messages: > >

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 01/29/2011 11:42 PM, JB wrote: > Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > >> ... > > Give us unedited outputs: > $ cat /etc/fstab > $ cat /etc/mtab > $ cat /proc/mounts > > JB > > > > The above files: /etc/fstab = # # /etc/fstab # Created by anaconda on F

Re: Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-29 Thread JB
Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes: > ... Give us unedited outputs: $ cat /etc/fstab $ cat /etc/mtab $ cat /proc/mounts JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: h

Fedora 14: Shutdown problem

2011-01-29 Thread Terry Barnaby
Hi, About 1 in 4 times Fedora 14 hangs during shutdown on at least 4 of my systems. Looking at the shutdown messages (ESC in the splash screen) and adding some debug statements to /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/S01halt, it hangs after the messages: "Unmounting file systems" "init: Re-executing