Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
lee wrote: Bill Davidsen writes: lee wrote: Queue your posts before sending them. I tried that, and wound up not remembering to post afterword. It sounds better than it works, at least for me. It can happen --- since I got used to it, I don't forget it anymore. Even if I do, nothing te

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 21:40 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Just think about what you'd tell me, if I tell you: "You must do it this way" ... You'd likely take it as a rudity. However, this is the 1:1 translation of what Germans would use to express what US Americans are

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
lee wrote: Reindl Harald writes: the real problem is thread-view Perhaps you'd be happier with a different MUA. You seem to be using something similar to the MUA built into seamonkey. I have always found it totally unsuited for managing more than a very few mails. Yes, Seamonkey has watc

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.07.2013 20:10, schrieb Robert Holtzman: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:55:15PM -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote: Hi Reindl, first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience maybe others should also rec

Re: cultural differences affecting communication (Re: Etiquette and changing of threads)

2013-07-16 Thread Les Howell
> How do you let go of your cultural and other frames of reference and yet > figure out what a subject at hand is? I don't think that's possible and > that it's only possible to be more or less aware of these factors and to > try to somehow deal with them. > > Still, being a German, you can say

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.07.2013 03:49, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> the real problem is thread-view > > Perhaps you'd be happier with a different MUA. You seem to be using > something similar to the MUA built into seamonkey. I have always found > it totally unsuited for managing more than a very

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-16 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 16.07.2013 03:49, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald writes: >> >>> the real problem is thread-view >> >> Perhaps you'd be happier with a different MUA. You seem to be using >> something similar to the MUA built into seamonkey. I have always found >> it totally unsuited

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread lee
Bill Davidsen writes: >> lee wrote: >> > >> Queue your posts before sending them. >> > I tried that, and wound up not remembering to post afterword. It > sounds better than it works, at least for me. It can happen --- since I got used to it, I don't forget it anymore. Even if I do, nothing terri

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > the real problem is thread-view Perhaps you'd be happier with a different MUA. You seem to be using something similar to the MUA built into seamonkey. I have always found it totally unsuited for managing more than a very few mails. Have you tried gnus or mutt? -- Fe

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 21:40 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Just think about what you'd tell me, if I tell you: "You must do it > this > way" ... You'd likely take it as a rudity. > > However, this is the 1:1 translation of what Germans would use to > express what US Americans are likely to expre

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: and the next problem that over time it becomes unclear to what people responded - the original thread or subthreads, that feels like if you have a tech meeting with 10 people and then one marketing guy steps in the room and fire his statements Not if t

cultural differences affecting communication (Re: Etiquette and changing of threads)

2013-07-15 Thread lee
Les Howell writes: > Culture is absorbed. > [...] > > These frames of reference and culture impact how one perceives what is > said. Much or most of face to face speaking is the unspoken language of > eye contact, facial expression, posture, tone and word choice, written > communication uses pu

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.07.2013 20:10, schrieb Robert Holtzman: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:55:15PM -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote: >> Hi Reindl, >>> first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread >>> >>> since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience >>> maybe others should also reconside

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/15/2013 12:40 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Just think about what you'd tell me, if I tell you: "You must do it this way" ... You'd likely take it as a rudity. No, at least I wouldn't. Now, I'd probably consider it as rude if you said, "Listen, stupid, this is the way you have to do it." -

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/15/2013 11:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 06:27 +0200, lee wrote: You need to realise that native speakers of English have a tendency to be overly polite and to expect others to be just as overly polite as they are, in ways non-native speakers of English mostly can

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Les Howell wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 10:47 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 06:27 +0200, lee wrote: You need to realise that native speakers of English have a tendency to be overly polite and to expect others to be just as overly polite as they are, in ways non-native

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
lee wrote: Reindl Harald writes: Queue your posts before sending them. After reading and/or writing some more posts while going through the list, you may have changed your mind and may be glad you queued what you've been writing. I tried that, and wound up not remembering to post afterword

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:55:15PM -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote: > Hi Reindl, > > first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread > > > > since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience > > maybe others should also reconsider *not* hijacking threads by > > Thanks for clarif

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Les Howell
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 10:47 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 06:27 +0200, lee wrote: > > You need to realise that native speakers of English have a tendency to > > be overly polite and to expect others to be just as overly polite as > > they are, in ways non-native speakers

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 06:27 +0200, lee wrote: > You need to realise that native speakers of English have a tendency to > be overly polite and to expect others to be just as overly polite as > they are, in ways non-native speakers of English mostly cannot fathom > (at least Germans cannot). At the

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-14 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread What is your intention? > since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience Don't lose patience. If you don't like someones posts, put the author into your score file and have their posts scored down

Re: Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-14 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Reindl, > first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread > > since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience > maybe others should also reconsider *not* hijacking threads by Thanks for clarification. Changing the subject (and keeping the original one with a [Re:]) is st

Etiquette and changing of threads

2013-07-14 Thread Reindl Harald
first: my intention is *not* to start another epic thread since i am always the unholy prick here after i lose patience maybe others should also reconsider *not* hijacking threads by * change the subject in a reply which is *uneccaptable* especially if the subjet contained the initial question