Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-27 Thread Ian Malone
On 27 August 2013 16:40, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:02:10 +0300 (EEST) > Gabriel VLASIU wrote: > >> > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the >> > mei module is actually good for. >> linux-3.10/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt > > That was the first thing I read.

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:02:10 +0300 (EEST) Gabriel VLASIU wrote: > > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > > mei module is actually good for. > linux-3.10/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt That was the first thing I read. It is an interesting collection of apparently well fo

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-27 Thread Gabriel VLASIU
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Tom Horsley wrote: > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > mei module is actually good for. linux-3.10/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt Gabriel - -- // Gabriel VLASIU // // OpenGPG-KeyID : 44952F1

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/26/2013 10:02 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2013, g sent: showing our age, are we not. ;=) No point acquiring it if you can't show it off... ;-) this is true. some kid me about my age and i just grin, and reply that they should pray that they receive such knowledg

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Martin S
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:32:50 PM Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2013, g sent: > > showing our age, are we not. ;=) > > No point acquiring it if you can't show it off... ;-) > > Though, in my defence, I'll say that I didn't get to see them the first > time around. Dr Who is

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2013, g sent: > showing our age, are we not. ;=) No point acquiring it if you can't show it off... ;-) Though, in my defence, I'll say that I didn't get to see them the first time around. -- All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point t

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 19:10, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 08/26/2013 09:20 AM, Tim wrote: >> Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2013, Joe Zeff sent: >>> *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!* >> >> I think the cybermen managed to predate the Vogans and Borg with the >> resistance is useless, and you will b

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/26/2013 09:20 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2013, Joe Zeff sent: *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!* I think the cybermen managed to predate the Vogans and Borg with the resistance is useless, and you will become like us, threats, in the 1960s. ;-) Well, I

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread g
On 08/26/2013 11:20 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2013, Joe Zeff sent: *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!* I think the cybermen managed to predate the Vogans and Borg with the resistance is useless, and you will become like us, threats, in the 1960s. ;-) showing

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS!* I think the cybermen managed to predate the Vogans and Borg with the resistance is useless, and you will become like us, threats, in the 1960s. ;-) -- All mail to my mailbox is automatically

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread g
On 08/26/2013 10:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> i referred to wikipedia because *every* article there has references so if you are so gently and scroll down or click on the anchors on top you find a ton of links referring to Intel websites and PDF's a virgin, i am not, to wiki*, having been

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 16:39, schrieb g: > On 08/25/2013 12:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 25.08.2013 19:20, schrieb Tom Horsley: >>> Given that, I've had to develop my own theory: >>> >>> The mei module is actually the primary back door >>> for the NSA to access linux systems. Why else would >>> they

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 12:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.08.2013 19:20, schrieb Tom Horsley: Given that, I've had to develop my own theory: The mei module is actually the primary back door for the NSA to access linux systems. Why else would they go to so much trouble to generate so much obfuscated

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 19:49:47 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > *stop* spread such unqualified FUD in the public and RTFM > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology And this wikipedia article is yet another example of a detailed desciption that says everything AMT does is behind

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 22:49, schrieb g: > On 08/25/2013 03:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > <> > >> it was *sarcasm* because the thread-starter did spread FUD >> is this really so hard to understand? > > really? > > so now you are a physic telepathic too? i do not need to be a physic telepathic i only nee

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 22:41, schrieb g: > On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > <> > >> I don't think you understood my comment correctly. OP is writing about >> some "mysterious" kernel module and I just pointed him to module's >> source code. I'm not posting any proofs because I'm not

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 20:00, schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:37:03 -0500 > Steven Stern wrote: > >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mei+kernel+module&l=1 >> >> >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+Management+Engine+ > > And the results of such searches are all those words > which are concatenated together

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.08.2013 19:20, schrieb Tom Horsley: > Given that, I've had to develop my own theory: > > The mei module is actually the primary back door > for the NSA to access linux systems. Why else would > they go to so much trouble to generate so much obfuscated > non-documentation for it? *stop* spr

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/25/2013 09:40 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: WE ARE THE NSA OF BORG. LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR DISKS. WE WILL ASSIMILATE YOUR SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE DISTINCTIVENESS. YOUR PROCESSORS WILL BE ADAPTED TO SERVE OUR OWN. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. *WE ARE THE VOGONS! RESISTANCE IS USELESS

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/25/2013 09:28 PM, g wrote: On 08/25/2013 04:58 PM, Steven Stern wrote: <> Jeez... he was just joking about the NSA stuff Settle down, folks. what? you do not like a little satire in with 'dry wit' thrown in? nsa = notoriety seeking admins. note send admins. new sex

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 23:28:37 -0500 g wrote: > nsa = notoriety seeking admins. >note send admins. >new sex acquired. NSA = No Such Agency. But my pet is this one: WE ARE THE NSA OF BORG. LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR DISKS. WE WILL ASSIMILATE YOUR SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 04:58 PM, Steven Stern wrote: <> Jeez... he was just joking about the NSA stuff Settle down, folks. what? you do not like a little satire in with 'dry wit' thrown in? nsa = notoriety seeking admins. note send admins. new sex acquired. wait a minute, that was s

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 10:52 PM, Martin S wrote: <> What? All code should be thoroughly commented so just look for // NSA back door ha, ha, ha. that is a good one. that laugh felt good. ((GBWG)) thank you. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . --

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Martin S
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 03:41:24 PM g wrote: > On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > <> > > > I don't think you understood my comment correctly. OP is writing about > > some "mysterious" kernel module and I just pointed him to module's > > source code. I'm not posting any proofs

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:43 +0100 Martin Airs wrote: > On Sunday 25 Aug 2013 13:20:05 Tom Horsley wrote: > > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > > mei module is actually good for. > > http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/ > > Some examples of Intel AMT us

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Steven Stern
On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 25.08.2013 21:42, g wrote: >> >> >> On 08/25/2013 01:58 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> <> >> >>> Why don't you just look at the source code? Check files in >>> drivers/misc/mei/ directory of Linux source code to see this NSA "back >>> doo

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:43 +0100 Martin Airs wrote: > Some examples of Intel AMT usage are: Yea, every example of Intel Management Engine docs I've found (which contained coherent sentences) all talk about things that the IT department can do to administer systems at a low level behind the operati

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Martin Airs
On Sunday 25 Aug 2013 13:20:05 Tom Horsley wrote: > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > mei module is actually good for. > I found a page with a lot of nonsensical ramblings on too, but then i found a section in it. http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/misc-devices

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 03:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> i do not need to be a physic telepathic i only need to follow the thread from the fist posting to each, their own opinion of themselves. :=) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users ma

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 03:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> it was *sarcasm* because the thread-starter did spread FUD is this really so hard to understand? really? so now you are a physic telepathic too? tell me what i am thinking. (bwg) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates.

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 03:04 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: <> I don't think you understood my comment correctly. OP is writing about some "mysterious" kernel module and I just pointed him to module's source code. I'm not posting any proofs because I'm not claiming anything. ok. if there was someth

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 25.08.2013 21:42, g wrote: > > > On 08/25/2013 01:58 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > <> > >> Why don't you just look at the source code? Check files in >> drivers/misc/mei/ directory of Linux source code to see this NSA "back >> door". > > like just where? > > your comment is a bit ambigu

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread g
On 08/25/2013 01:58 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: <> Why don't you just look at the source code? Check files in drivers/misc/mei/ directory of Linux source code to see this NSA "back door". like just where? your comment is a bit ambiguous. how about posting some proof. if you are infer

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 25.08.2013 20:00, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:37:03 -0500 > Steven Stern wrote: > >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mei+kernel+module&l=1 >> >> >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+Management+Engine+ > > And the results of such searches are all those words > which are concatenated together and

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:37:03 -0500 Steven Stern wrote: > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mei+kernel+module&l=1 > > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+Management+Engine+ And the results of such searches are all those words which are concatenated together and say nothing :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Steven Stern
On 08/25/2013 12:20 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > The mei kernel module has been killing folks for a long time > now, and they can't seem to fix it: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=917081 > > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > mei module is actually good for. > > Al

Another amusing bug

2013-08-25 Thread Tom Horsley
The mei kernel module has been killing folks for a long time now, and they can't seem to fix it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=917081 Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the mei module is actually good for. All the doc files and web pages are filled to the brim with wor