Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-04 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 00:33, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/03/2021 09:15, George N. White III wrote: > > > > > > The Changelog at britty.com for the 6.3 release says > > the systemd component was changed to create the brlapi group if it > > doesn't exist, so the same functionality

RE: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Francisco Tissera
for Fedora usersSubject: Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 18:25, Ed Greshko <ed.gres...@greshko.com> wrote:On 04/03/2021 04:12, George N. White III wrote:> Yes -- that is what how I understood the situation.   The brltty devs  maintain D

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/03/2021 09:15, George N. White III wrote: The Changelog at britty.com for the 6.3 release says the systemd component was changed to create the brlapi group if it doesn't exist, so the same functionality as the script.  Maybe the change was a response to systems that fa

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 18:25, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/03/2021 04:12, George N. White III wrote: > > Yes -- that is what how I understood the situation. The brltty devs > maintain Debian and > > RedHat packages with different post-install while creating groups with > systemd should > > work acr

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/03/2021 04:12, George N. White III wrote: Yes -- that is what how I understood the situation.   The brltty devs  maintain Debian and RedHat packages with different post-install while creating groups with systemd should work across distros (but the step to move the creation so systemd is e

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 15:49, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/03/2021 02:07, George N. White III wrote: > > I'm not sure how dnf would be able to add a user to those groups or flag > the need to do that. > > In the event that what I wrote was ambiguous I just want to clarify what I > was attempting to s

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/03/2021 02:07, George N. White III wrote: I'm not sure how dnf would be able to add a user to those groups or flag the need to do that. In the event that what I wrote was ambiguous I just want to clarify what I was attempting to say. Installs of brlapi and brltty packaged by fedora (as

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 13:19, Francisco Tissera wrote: > Dear Ed, > > > I found another way, really randomly: I just needed to add myself to the > groups brlapi and brltty, which i did already, but didn't work, but now it > does, maybe because i added myself to brltty as well, thanks for everythin

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Francisco Tissera
Dear Ed, I found another way, really randomly: I just needed to add myself to the groups brlapi and brltty, which i did already, but didn't work, but now it does, maybe because i added myself to brltty as well, thanks for everything. Best regards. Francisco. On 3/3/21 2:57 PM, Ed Greshko

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/2021 21:47, Francisco Tissera wrote: I actually need to install this specific package from brltty.com because I know for a fact that the upgraded version, 6.3, works pretty well. Then you should remove the brlapi-0.8.0-11.fc33 package and any other associated fedora supplied packages

RE: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Francisco Tissera
little introduction, and some curiosities/questions On 03/03/2021 21:04, Francisco Tissera wrote:I kind of think I do need brlapi, but when i try to install it with the rpm -i command as sudoer, this happens.     file /usr/lib64/brltty/libbrlttybba.so from install of brltty-braille-br lapi-6.3-1

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/2021 21:04, Francisco Tissera wrote: I kind of think I do need brlapi, but when i try to install it with the rpm -i  command as sudoer, this happens.     file /usr/lib64/brltty/libbrlttybba.so from install of brltty-braille-br lapi-6.3-1.x86_64 conflicts with file from package brlapi-0.

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Francisco Tissera
Dear George and Edd, Thanks for all the suggestions, I've been reading them, but only now I got around to installing version 6.3 of BRLTTY. I installed every rpm eccept the source, cause, and brlapi. I kind of think I do need brlapi, but when i try to install it with the rpm -i command as s

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/2021 20:20, George N. White III wrote: Apparently the Fedora package doesn't create a group needed by brltty (a capability added in 6.3). The online docs mention a group with user-defined name (for access to a "key") as well as setgid. I'm not sure if there is more than one group need

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-03 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 16:05, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/03/2021 03:29, George N. White III wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 12:25, Francisco Tissera > wrote: > > > > Dear George, > > > > Thanks for the changelog, I’ll download and install 6.3 then. > > > >

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/03/2021 17:54, Francisco Tissera wrote: Did i do something wrong? Also, there is a mailing list devoted to brltty here https://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty They may have greater knowledge in this area. -- People who believe they don't make mistakes have already made one. ___

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/03/2021 03:29, George N. White III wrote: On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 12:25, Francisco Tissera mailto:audiogamer2...@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear George, Thanks for the changelog, I’ll download and install 6.3 then. Would I just download the rpm and install it, or would I have to downlo

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 12:25, Francisco Tissera wrote: > Dear George, > > > > Thanks for the changelog, I’ll download and install 6.3 then. > > Would I just download the rpm and install it, or would I have to download > the source rpm as well? Brltty.com lists both, and so I don’t know how to > go

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Matthew Miller
well. > > Thanks again. > > Best regards. > > Francisco. > > **From:**[George N. White III][] > **Sent:**Tuesday, March 2, 2021 4:45 PM > **To:**[Community support for Fedora users][] > **Subject:**Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions > &

RE: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Francisco Tissera
introduction, and some curiosities/questions On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 05:30, Francisco Tissera <audiogamer2...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear ed, How do I add the brlapi entry to /etc/group? i opened it in Nano, but i don't understand the sintacs.The Changelog for version 6.3 -- Fedora 33 provides 6.1 (Janua

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 05:30, Francisco Tissera wrote: > Dear ed, > > > How do I add the brlapi entry to /etc/group? i opened it in Nano, but i > don't understand the sintacs. > The Changelog for version 6.3 -- Fedora 33 provides 6.1 (January 28, 2021) -- has: Systemd changes: The brlapi group

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/03/2021 17:54, Francisco Tissera wrote: I inserted the line brlapi:x:1010:francisco to the end of the file /etc/group with Nano as sudoer, and when i type groups, I apparently am in the brlapi group, but i still get this error for some odd reason. Did i do something wrong? By this

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Francisco Tissera
Dear Ed, I inserted the line brlapi:x:1010:francisco to the end of the file /etc/group with Nano as sudoer, and when i type groups, I apparently am in the brlapi group, but i still get this error for some odd reason. Did i do something wrong? Best regards. Francisco. On 3/2/21 10:40 AM,

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/03/2021 17:29, Francisco Tissera wrote: How do I add the brlapi entry to /etc/group? i opened it in Nano, but i don't understand the sintacs. Well You can add the line brlapi:x:975: to the file. But, just make sure that 975 is unique. Or, you can use the "groupadd" command.

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Francisco Tissera
Dear ed, How do I add the brlapi entry to /etc/group? i opened it in Nano, but i don't understand the sintacs. Thanks again. Best regards. Francisco. On 3/2/21 10:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/03/2021 17:10, Francisco Tissera wrote: I'll paste below the output that the command you sugg

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/03/2021 17:10, Francisco Tissera wrote: I'll paste below the output that the command you suggested gave me, there's something disturbing indeed in that command, that I didn't try till you  suggested it. systemctl status brltty ● brltty.service - Braille display driver for Linux/Unix   

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-02 Thread Francisco Tissera
Dear Ed, I'll paste below the output that the command you suggested gave me, there's something disturbing indeed in that command, that I didn't try till you suggested it. systemctl status brltty ● brltty.service - Braille display driver for Linux/Unix Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/03/2021 15:09, Francisco Tissera wrote: Thanks for the link to the Redhat docs regarding accessibility, it worked. I just needed to authorize my local user and root user so BRLTTY could be enabled under them and used. Now though another problem arises. There’s this problem with this li

RE: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-01 Thread Francisco Tissera
answers.Best regards.FranciscoFrom: Ed GreshkoSent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:09 AMTo: users@lists.fedoraproject.orgSubject: Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions On 01/03/2021 15:49, Francisco Tissera wrote:> > I don’t know what though, and I can say that with the other distores i

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-01 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 03:49, Francisco Tissera wrote: > Good day everybody, > > > > I’m Francisco, and I’m a blind high school kid who just recently started > using Fedora 33 Workstation, both for fun, and hopefully, with guidance > from you guys, for actual day to day school work. > > I have a l

Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-03-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/03/2021 15:49, Francisco Tissera wrote: I don’t know what though, and I can say that with the other distores it just worked out of the box. So my question is, has anyone experienced this problem? Does anyone know a solution to this, for me, huge deal? Using brltty 6.1, the one that come

A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

2021-02-28 Thread Francisco Tissera
Good day everybody, I’m Francisco, and I’m a blind high school kid who just recently started using Fedora 33 Workstation, both for fun, and hopefully, with guidance from you guys, for actual day to day school work.I have a little bit of experience using Linux. I started with Ubuntu 3 or so months a