On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 15:49, Ed Greshko <ed.gres...@greshko.com> wrote:

> On 04/03/2021 02:07, George N. White III wrote:
> > I'm not sure how dnf would be able to add a user to those groups or flag
> the need to do that.
>
> In the event that what I wrote was ambiguous I just want to clarify what I
> was attempting to say.
>
> Installs of brlapi and brltty packaged by fedora (as early as F27)
> resulted in the creation of the
> brlapi group.  It did not add any users to that group.  I don't have the
> F27 rpm to examine.
> However, the group creation was most likely done by a post installation
> script the packager
> included in the rpm.
>

Yes -- that is what how I understood the situation.   The brltty devs
maintain Debian and
RedHat packages with different post-install while creating groups with
systemd should
work across distros (but the step to move the creation so systemd is easily
overlooked, and
may not be noticed for a while since most installs will be upgrades rather
than fresh installs).


> Just like, for example wireshark, it is up to someone with admin/root
> privileges to add users
> to a given group.
>
> FWIW, the "groups" command can be used to list the current groups of a
> user's current shell
> environment.
>

For many users, the need to create and join groups falls in the category of
unknown
unknowns.

-- 
George N. White III
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