Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
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Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-20 Thread Lailah
Are you aware that your mails are totally ciphered so we can't read them? Greetings from Lailah El sáb, 19-01-2013 a las 14:46 +0200, Mika Suomalainen escribió: > > Error al verificar la firma: Falló > al ejecutar gpg. > Content-Type: application/x-inlinepgp-signed; charset="utf-8" > Content-T

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-19 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2013, David sent: > I don't recall Mate being available for Fedora 18 as I described. I do > know that with a little skill and abilities it could be added to > Fedora 17. Perhaps you should update Fedora 18? May try that, it wasn't properly available when I start

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-19 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 18.01.2013 23:02, Tim wrote: > > Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2013, David sent: >>> You will not be offered a choice of desktops unless you have >>> more than one installed. From the way you describe what you >>> have done you do not have th

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread David
>>> yum groupinstall "Mate Desktop" (note the quote marks) >> >> And got the response I expected: >> >> Warning: Group Mate Desktop does not exist. No packages in any >> requested group available to install or update >> >> By the way, lo

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread David
packages in any > requested group available to install or update > > By the way, lots of mirrors seem to be non-responsive, this morning. > It took quite some time for either command line to complete. > The email that I replied to had a subject of : *A Look at Fedora 18*. So

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:32:07 +1030, Tim wrote: > *** I'll remind people that my tangential offshoot of this > thread is with Fedora 17. *** Which could be part of the problem. > yum grouplist > No sign of Mate, in either list. Nonetheless, I tried the following: The "comps" file in th

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/18/2013 01:02 PM, Tim issued this missive: *** I'll remind people that my tangential offshoot of this thread is with Fedora 17. *** Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2013, David sent: You will not be offered a choice of desktops unless you have more than one installed. From the w

desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread Tim
*** I'll remind people that my tangential offshoot of this thread is with Fedora 17. *** Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2013, David sent: > You will not be offered a choice of desktops unless you have more than > one installed. From the way you describe what you have done you do not > h

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread David
On 1/18/2013 7:54 AM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 23:28 +, Ian Malone wrote: >> In F17 I don't get the session chooser unless there are alternative >> desktops available[1]. I think it's the GDM login I've got, but could >> be wrong. Michael Schwendt's comment could be the package that >

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 23:28 +, Ian Malone wrote: > In F17 I don't get the session chooser unless there are alternative > desktops available[1]. I think it's the GDM login I've got, but could > be wrong. Michael Schwendt's comment could be the package that > registers Mate. I'll try that in a l

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:26:20 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > I'd say you need to install the mate-session-manager package: > > Shouldn´t mate-desktop be a meta-package that install everything else > needed for smooth operation (including mate-session-manager) ?? Possibly. I'm not familiar with

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > I'd say you need to install the mate-session-manager package: Shouldn´t mate-desktop be a meta-package that install everything else needed for smooth operation (including mate-session-manager) ?? #justsaying FC -- During times of Un

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Ian Malone
On 17 January 2013 20:52, Tim wrote: > Michael Schwendt: There is. It appears after you choose/enter the user name. > > Tim: >>> There isn't. Nowhere on the logon screen is anything that gives you >>> a desktop choice. > > Suvayu Ali >> If you are using gdm, there should be one. > > Oh no th

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:22:23 +1030, Tim wrote: > Is there anybody using F17 with mate that can see if they have the same > packages that I listed before? Is something extra needed before you get > a choice? > > > > [tim@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa \*mate\* > mate-conf-1.4.0-21.fc17.x86_64 > mate-cor

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Tim
Michael Schwendt: >>> There is. It appears after you choose/enter the user name. Tim: >> There isn't. Nowhere on the logon screen is anything that gives you >> a desktop choice. Suvayu Ali > If you are using gdm, there should be one. Oh no there isn't (panto voice)... Seriously, there is a

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 20:33 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:55:53 +1030, Tim wrote: > > > Tim: > > >> There's no desktop chooser (in the GDM logon screen) on > > >> Fedora to let me quickly see what desktop I'm using. > > > > Michael Schwendt: > > > There is. It appears af

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:55:53 +1030, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> There's no desktop chooser (in the GDM logon screen) on > >> Fedora to let me quickly see what desktop I'm using. > > Michael Schwendt: > > There is. It appears after you choose/enter the user name. > > There isn't. http://www.youtube

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:39:37 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55:53PM +1030, Tim wrote: >> Tim: >> >> There's no desktop chooser (in the GDM logon screen) on Fedora to >> >> let me quickly see what desktop I'm using. >> >> Michael Schwendt: >> > There is. It appears after you

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/16/2013 11:12 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/16/2013 12:05 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I remember reading that F18 includes both Gnome 3.x and also Gnome 2.x renamed MATE desktop? More or less. MATE is a fork of GNOME 2. Fedora also includes Cinnamon, now, which is an alternate shell ba

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55:53PM +1030, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> There's no desktop chooser (in the GDM logon screen) on > >> Fedora to let me quickly see what desktop I'm using. > > Michael Schwendt: > > There is. It appears after you choose/enter the user name. > > There isn't. Nowhere on the

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Tim
Tim: >> There's no desktop chooser (in the GDM logon screen) on >> Fedora to let me quickly see what desktop I'm using. Michael Schwendt: > There is. It appears after you choose/enter the user name. There isn't. Nowhere on the logon screen is anything that gives you a desktop choice. I've seen

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:47:53 +1030, Tim wrote: > There's no desktop chooser (in the GDM logon screen) on > Fedora to let me quickly see what desktop I'm using. There is. It appears after you choose/enter the user name. -- Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow) - Linux 3.7.2-201.fc18.x86_64 loadavg:

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 16 January 2013, Gordon Messmer sent: > More or less. MATE is a fork of GNOME 2. > > Fedora also includes Cinnamon, now, which is an alternate shell based > on GNOME 3, but with a more traditional panel and menu interface. I'm inclined not to agree with that. If it were "m

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/16/2013 12:05 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I remember reading that F18 includes both Gnome 3.x and also Gnome 2.x renamed MATE desktop? More or less. MATE is a fork of GNOME 2. Fedora also includes Cinnamon, now, which is an alternate shell based on GNOME 3, but with a more traditional pa

Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:13:43AM +1100, Roger wrote: > On 01/17/2013 10:05 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > >On 01/16/2013 02:59 PM, Roger issued this missive: > > > >>Death is just the beginning! (Galaxy Quest) > > > >"Death is nature's way of dropping carrier." > > >Spot On! Well said! yup.

Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Roger
On 01/17/2013 10:05 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 01/16/2013 02:59 PM, Roger issued this missive: Death is just the beginning! (Galaxy Quest) "Death is nature's way of dropping carrier." Spot On! Well said! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscri

Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/16/2013 02:59 PM, Roger issued this missive: Death is just the beginning! (Galaxy Quest) "Death is nature's way of dropping carrier." -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype:

Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Roger
On 01/16/2013 10:29 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 16 January 2013 11:20, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:17:49 +0100 Roberto Ragusa wrote: I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-) You have experienced it? Personally, cannot say if it's a change, only that it's guaranteed.

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 08:16 -0800, Dan Thurman wrote: > On 01/15/2013 06:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Looking at the Fedora 18 from a Live Cd I found that Gnome is following > > the tradition of not following its tradition. > > Clicking on Activities no longer gives you Applications item at the

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Dan Thurman
On 01/15/2013 06:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Looking at the Fedora 18 from a Live Cd I found that Gnome is following > the tradition of not following its tradition. > Clicking on Activities no longer gives you Applications item at the top. > Together with the standard applications on the left sid

Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 16 January 2013, Ian Malone sent: > Well everyone who's tried it stops talking to their old friends at > least. Dunno about that. I think those that have "tried" it do talk to their old friends, quite a bit about it. Only those that successful don't. -- [tim@localhost ~]

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-) One thread that develops with a positive tone, and ends philosophical about it all even the Fedora list can change! and for the better!. I think I´ve seen it all. *joke* *joke* FC --

Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:29:36 + Ian Malone wrote: > Well everyone who's tried it stops talking to their old friends at > least. > and that applies to old friends who are also dead? :D -- Regards, Frank "Byte my kernel" --me . -- users mail

Re: OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Ian Malone
On 16 January 2013 11:20, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:17:49 +0100 > Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-) >> > You have experienced it? > Personally, cannot say if it's a change, > only that it's guaranteed. > Well everyone who's tried it

OT: Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:17:49 +0100 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > I can assure you that death *is* a big change. ;-) > You have experienced it? Personally, cannot say if it's a change, only that it's guaranteed. -- Regards, Frank "Byte my kernel" --

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 01/16/2013 11:51 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:44:48 +1100 > Roger wrote: > >> I installed it I love it! >> The only guarantee in life is "Change" -- > > Life doesn't guarantee change, > it will probably occur, > but only death is guaranteed. I can assure you that death *

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:44:48 +1100 Roger wrote: > I installed it I love it! > The only guarantee in life is "Change" -- Life doesn't guarantee change, it will probably occur, but only death is guaranteed. -- Regards, Frank "Byte my kernel" --me

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Roger
I installed it I love it! The only guarantee in life is "Change" -- Nothing ever stays the same. Roger Looking at the Fedora 18 from a Live Cd I found that Gnome is following the tradition of not following its tradition. Clicking on Activities no longer gives you Applications item at the top. To

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Jon Ingason
2013-01-16 09:05, Fernando Cassia skrev: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Good thing is nobody forces you to run Gnome. I run LXDE myself, and my workflow is pretty much on par to what I had with Gnome 2 back in the day. I remember reading that F18 includes both G

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-16 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > Good thing is nobody forces you to run Gnome. I run LXDE myself, and my > workflow is pretty much on par to what I had with Gnome 2 back in the day. I remember reading that F18 includes both Gnome 3.x and also Gnome 2.x renamed MATE

A look at Gnome was incorrectly titled Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:55:04 -0600 Aaron Konstam wrote: > Looking at the Fedora 18 from a Live Cd I found that Gnome is > following the tradition of not following its tradition. > Clicking on Activities no longer gives you Applications item at the > top. Together with the standard applications on

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-15 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
To some it is, to you it probably isn't. Good thing is nobody forces you to run Gnome. I run LXDE myself, and my workflow is pretty much on par to what I had with Gnome 2 back in the day. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Looking at the Fedora 18 from a Live Cd I found that

A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-15 Thread Aaron Konstam
Looking at the Fedora 18 from a Live Cd I found that Gnome is following the tradition of not following its tradition. Clicking on Activities no longer gives you Applications item at the top. Together with the standard applications on the left side of the screen you get a icon that looks like a rect