Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-28 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Paul Allen Newell said: > Problem is solved as far as I am concerned, even though I am certain > there is probably some way to get a unique token. Since my goal is to > get the machine up and running so I can be a user on it, I learned from > all the material offered that it i

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/27/2012 5:59 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I think he wants the "single, known interface" to have a single known name, and not some random characters determined by the whichness of what. Bill (and Reindl, Ed, and Tom who replied to Bill): Thanks for the addition comments. The statement Bi

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 27 May 2012 23:39:06 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > If, > for example, you (or someone who works for you) change a network card whose > cable was > labeled eth0 you will need to remember to edit the 70-persistent-net.rules. That always seemed dumb to me. It can tell (or make a good guess) if

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2012 08:59 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I really want to be able to put any card in any slot and match the label on > the > cable to the label on the NIC, and have scripts which don't have to be > needlessly > complex to discover the name of the interface OK, but you do realize that you a

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.05.2012 14:59, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > The problem with naming is that for every server run by experienced sysadmins "experienced sysadmins" should not have a problem to open "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" and define "eth0" SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", AT

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/23/2012 11:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: [updated, keeping original post and adding new info at bottom] On 5/22/2012 8:12 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Hello: As I continue dealing with iptables, another issue has come up that I can't tell is a mis-understanding on my

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-23 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/23/2012 1:07 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: edit "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" (ONE LINE, replace MAC with yours) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:50:56:bd:00:27", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" _

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.05.2012 08:17, schrieb Paul Allen Newell: > With all due respect, its become clear to me that ifconfig is obsolete and a > solution which uses it doesn't have a > future. Can you try to get the ip address with command "ip" on a i686 and > x86_64 system without having to run a > different

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/23/2012 02:46 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Okay, that's a good question that I hadn't considered. So do you happen to > know how > to change the names? No. Not something that I've needed or wanted to do. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/22/2012 11:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Maybe the question you should be asking is this? I don't like the names that have been assigned to my network interfaces. How can I change them to be what I want them to be? Ed: Okay, that's a good question that I hadn't considered. So do you happen

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/23/2012 02:17 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 5/22/2012 10:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Well, as you said, things are in transition And, if you did some google >> searches >> you'd find that there were/are differences between how interface names >> appear(ed) at >> various points depe

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/22/2012 10:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, as you said, things are in transition And, if you did some google searches you'd find that there were/are differences between how interface names appear(ed) at various points depending on system architecture. That seems to be your main "issu

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/23/2012 01:31 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > SO, I am at least running (but with a groan at how) > > I'd like a single command with no "if's" (ip or other) that give me > 192.168.2.x (I > can handle if it has "/24?) on the end. Well, as you said, things are in transition And, if you d

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 5/22/2012 9:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I guess I really don't know what precisely is the problem you're having. Interface naming convention has been undergoing changes since, maybe, F14. Interfaces that were once called eth0 became em1 and other niceties. I don't recall if the names changed o

Re: [UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/23/2012 11:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > [updated, keeping original post and adding new info at bottom] > > On 5/22/2012 8:12 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> Hello: >> >> As I continue dealing with iptables, another issue has come up that I can't >> tell >> is a mis-understanding on my p

[UPDATED:] Re: confusion on /sbin/ifconfig on F16

2012-05-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
[updated, keeping original post and adding new info at bottom] On 5/22/2012 8:12 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Hello: As I continue dealing with iptables, another issue has come up that I can't tell is a mis-understanding on my part or a potential problem I have three F16 machines, one x86_64