Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/20/2013 02:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 20.01.2013 15:02, schrieb g: >> On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> <> >>> Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has >>> been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole. >> >> i agree. 5 days an

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/20/2013 02:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:54 +, g wrote: >>> No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from >> time >>> to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly >> working. >> > i am hoping that it is perfect. > > It

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 15:02, schrieb g: > > On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > <> > >> Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has >> been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole. > > i agree. 5 days and you did not make a suggestion to check if e

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:54 +, g wrote: > > No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from > time > > to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly > working. > i am hoping that it is perfect. It isn't. Think about it: a perfect spam filter would mean you wo

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/17/2013 09:20 PM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 09:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> And yet you tempt us with another acronym :-) >> >> (I just figured out you meant Gin and Tonic. It's usually spelt G&T >> where I come from). > > Here, GT is a car. Holden GT. also, it could

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/17/2013 02:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 22:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: <> >> Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has > been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole. > > And yet you tempt us with another acronym :

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: <> > Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has > been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole. i agree. 5 days and you did not make a suggestion to check if email server was filtering. plus, neither of you

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/17/2013 01:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +, g wrote: >> now i find out that the >> ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good >> emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is >> even worse, this has been goi

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-17 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 09:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > And yet you tempt us with another acronym :-) > > (I just figured out you meant Gin and Tonic. It's usually spelt G&T > where I come from). Here, GT is a car. Holden GT. ;-) -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 22:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/17/2013 09:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +, g wrote: > >> now i find out that the > >> ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good > >> emails as spam and then automatically

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/17/2013 09:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +, g wrote: >> now i find out that the >> ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good >> emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is >> even worse, this has been goin

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +, g wrote: > now i find out that the > ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good > emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is > even worse, this has been going on for almost a full year. No spam filter is perfect.

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-16 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 10:03 AM, g wrote: > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? [*solved*] get a hunch. bet a bunch. as it turns out the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo has done it again. for some strange and yet to be know r

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/13/2013 04:23 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: What's a poc? ;-) Patrick O'Callaghan: Part of a sig. But that would be spelt POAS... ;-) Speaking of TLAs, it always makes me smirk when I see someone refer to a computerised cash register as a POS (point of sales) device. Considering that the POS

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/13/2013 03:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g: also, good luck with subfolders under inbox who needs luck there? "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" is your friend Thank you Sir! This is JUST what I needed! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/15/2013 01:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> > before i get moderated again after said what i think? do not blame me if you are getting moderated. it is your fingers on your keyboard sending email to this list that is getting you moderated. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Des

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/15/2013 01:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> > please try not to act this way on tech lists so, what? you want me to waste space on this list like you are doing? it is you who needs to grow up. btw, my date of birth is 4 august 1940. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Descripti

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 07:07 PM, poma wrote: > On 01/13/2013 11:03 AM, g wrote: >> why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my >> via my subscription and sometimes i do not? >> > > Nobody's perfect. very true. what bugs me about all this is this is first time i have ever had proble

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 09:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> > well, if you do not want to discuss about something > do not post strange things like "also, good luck with > subfolders under inbox" which makes no sense at all please excuse delay in replying to your second post. i was not trying to ignore you.

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 02:30, schrieb g: >> or go and look up more acronyms to play with. > > here is one for you i do not have to look up... > > K.A.F.B.A. please realize that on tech-lists nobody is interested in acronyms and child speak, from your posts the last days i would say you can not be old

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 09:04 PM, Ian Malone wrote: <> > Actually you've still misunderstood, actually, it is you who does not understand. so, here it, plain and simple-- if you can not help a poster, any poster, then do not post to thread with you non helpful comments or insinuating remarks. if you ca

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 02:03, schrieb g: > > On 01/14/2013 08:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > <> > >> I gather, then, that you got my point. > > you wee making a point? wow. i thought you were being otherwise. would you please stop trolling and childish-language before i get moderated again after said what i

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 08:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> > I gather, then, that you got my point. you wee making a point? wow. i thought you were being otherwise. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 January 2013 18:34, g wrote: > > On 01/14/2013 08:06 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > so, i am now of belief that you have a misapprehension in thinking that > your post is a proper post and that it will help solve what i specified > in my first post. > > in other words, if you can not help, please

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/14/2013 12:15 PM, g wrote: On 01/14/2013 06:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote: it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a 'user support list'. It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and expect the rest of us to

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 06:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote: >> it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a >> 'user support list'. > > It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and > expect the rest of us to know what they mean with

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 January 2013 19:07, poma wrote: > On 01/13/2013 11:03 AM, g wrote: >> why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my >> via my subscription and sometimes i do not? >> >> >> > > Nobody's perfect. > Though that reply comes close. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.u

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread poma
On 01/13/2013 11:03 AM, g wrote: > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? > > > Nobody's perfect. Cheers, poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:/

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote: it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a 'user support list'. It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and expect the rest of us to know what they mean without explanation. I don't go *clink!* when I walk

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 07:38 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/13/2013 07:34 PM, g wrote: >> please see post from and my reply to T.C. Hollingsworth. > > I believe that both he and I were referring to the last option in the > mailman user preferences: Avoid duplicate copies of messages if i do not see a

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 08:06 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 13 January 2013 20:12, g wrote: >> >> On 01/13/2013 01:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> <> >> >>> Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a >> >> that it is and why i do not use my gmail accounts for regular posting >> t

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 January 2013 20:12, g wrote: > > On 01/13/2013 01:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > <> > >> Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a > > that it is and why i do not use my gmail accounts for regular posting > to this tsl. > > >> In any case, the OP doesn't appear

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/13/2013 07:34 PM, g wrote: please see post from and my reply to T.C. Hollingsworth. I believe that both he and I were referring to the last option in the mailman user preferences: Avoid duplicate copies of messages -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 01:46 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/13/2013 02:03 AM, g wrote: >> why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my >> via my subscription and sometimes i do not? > > You won't normally receive messages which list your address on a To: or > CC: header. Perhap

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 01:03 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: <> > If you want this to happen always, there's an option to enable it in > the Mailman settings: > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/options/users yes, this was first thing i checked when it started to happen. > If you do *not* want this t

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/13/2013 02:03 AM, g wrote: why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not? You won't normally receive messages which list your address on a To: or CC: header. Perhaps those are the messages that you're not receiving via su

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On 1/13/13, g wrote: > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? - If you want this to happen always, there's an option to enable it in the Mailman settings: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/options/users If you do *not

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Lailah
El dom, 13-01-2013 a las 08:44 -0500, Tom Horsley escribió: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 + > g wrote: > > > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? > > I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as >

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 09:19 PM, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at >>> abbreviations and jargon. > > g: >> was that a guess or actually a memory recall? ;) > > Educated guess. well done. > I can only guess at that the abbreviations might > stand fo

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 08:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <> > Also Point Of Contact, but I digress ... LOL. tho not as bad as another "digresseraient". -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Reindl Harald
or use IMAP - there is nothing in between > > it would be nice if you would get your back thinking back to what the > "Subject: Re: [OT] posting and receiving post" relates to. > > therefore, until such time occurs, i will not longer reply to your post well, if you do not wa

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
ould get your back thinking back to what the "Subject: Re: [OT] posting and receiving post" relates to. therefore, until such time occurs, i will not longer reply to your post. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list user

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 09:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 13.01.2013 22:15, schrieb g: >> >> On 01/13/2013 08:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g: also, good luck with subfolders under inbox >>> >>> who needs luck there? >>> "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_ne

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.01.2013 22:22, schrieb g: > > On 01/13/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >> On 13/01/13 15:14, g wrote: >>> also, good luck with subfolders under inbox. >>> >>> thank you. >> >> >> Is there some reason not to do that? > > yes. > > because what can happen is; > > }>

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Tim
Tim: >> What's a poc? ;-) Patrick O'Callaghan: > Part of a sig. But that would be spelt POAS... ;-) Speaking of TLAs, it always makes me smirk when I see someone refer to a computerised cash register as a POS (point of sales) device. Considering that the POS is often based on DOS or Windows,

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 13/01/13 15:14, g wrote: >> also, good luck with subfolders under inbox. >> >> thank you. > > > Is there some reason not to do that? yes. because what can happen is; }> I have sub-sub folders and they }> *seem* to work, stuff

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Tim
Tim: >> My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at >> abbreviations and jargon. g: > was that a guess or actually a memory recall? ;) Educated guess. It seemed the likely answer, and I'm used to unexplained acronyms all over the place in my fields of work (electronics and

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.01.2013 22:15, schrieb g: > > On 01/13/2013 08:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g: >>> also, good luck with subfolders under inbox >> >> who needs luck there? >> "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" is your friend > > i am aware of that, but is not what i

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 08:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g: >> also, good luck with subfolders under inbox > > who needs luck there? > "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" is your friend i am aware of that, but is not what i was writing about. -- peace out. tc.hago,

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 13/01/13 15:14, g wrote: also, good luck with subfolders under inbox. thank you. Is there some reason not to do that? I have sub-sub folders and they seem to work, stuff get filtered into the right directory most of the time, only pop3, don't want imap, occasionally it fails and g

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-13 at 20:17 +, g wrote: > On 01/13/2013 03:22 PM, Tim wrote: > > Allegedly, on or about 13 January 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > >> What's a tsl? > > > > My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at > > abbreviations and jargon. > > was that a guess or

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 01:52 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 13 January 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > What's a tsl? > > My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at > abbreviations and jargon. My point exactly, especially as the OP seems to have misplaced his

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g: > also, good luck with subfolders under inbox who needs luck there? "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" is your friend signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 03:26 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 01/13/2013 04:03 AM, g wrote: >> why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my >> via my subscription and sometimes i do not? >> > Gmail puts your message into the sent mail folder because it's from you. > It's a quirk of gmai

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 03:22 PM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 13 January 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: >> What's a tsl? > > My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at > abbreviations and jargon. was that a guess or actually a memory recall? ;) > What's a poc? ;-) power

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 02:49 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: <> > I too use Thunderbird for all my accounts (I have lots!) I have three > sub-folders under my GMail "Inbox" that I filter for > CEntOS.Fedoraand PCLinux mailing lists. I have no problem seeing > anything I've sent/received from any

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 01:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <> > Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a that it is and why i do not use my gmail accounts for regular posting to this tsl. > In any case, the OP doesn't appear to be using Gmail so the question is > moot. i di

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/13/2013 04:03 AM, g wrote: > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? > > > Gmail puts your message into the sent mail folder because it's from you. It's a quirk of gmail. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@l

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 13 January 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > What's a tsl? My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at abbreviations and jargon. > poc What's a poc? ;-) -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.6.10-2.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 11 18:07:34 UTC 201

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/13/2013 09:02 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 01/13/2013 08:44 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 + g wrote: why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not? I don't know if any other mail services operate

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 01/13/2013 08:44 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 + g wrote: why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not? I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as gmail, but with gmail the only way

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-13 at 08:44 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 + > g wrote: > > > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? > > I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as > gmail,

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-13 at 10:03 +, g wrote: > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? > What's a tsl? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.f

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 + g wrote: > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as gmail, but with gmail the only way I can see my own messages on the list is t

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 10:05 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 + > g wrote: > >> why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my >> via my subscription and sometimes i do not? >> > > You may have subscribed under different email addresses? no. same subscriptio

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 + g wrote: > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? > You may have subscribed under different email addresses? -- Regards, Frank "Still trying to learn, both old and new tricks"

[OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-13 Thread g
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not? -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: