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On 23 June 2014 21:16, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/23/2014 11:43 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>> Now let's assume we were both Japanese. Could we record and search
>> accurately for a written sentence in English?
>
>
> Considering that most Japanese students study Engl
On 23 June 2014 20:33, Tim wrote:
> Tim:
>>> Why the hell couldn't the computer just have said to set the clock
>>> manually, since it couldn't manage to do it itself, instead of some
>>> moronic number code?
>
>
> Liam Proven:
>> I kno
ow a
simple number that they could.
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On 20 June 2014 15:51, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Sorry, poma: I don't know what SIP means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol
It's a standard for making phone calls over the Internet, broadly.
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pick install. Close Firefox
and reopen it.
Then retry your Fedora download. When Firefox asks you what to do with
the file - open, save etc. - there should now be a new option,
"download with DownThemAll". Choose this.
Typically I find things download 2-4x faster and the extra reliability
that sentence means is "since you folk tell
me that I'd be better off with 64-bit than 32-bit, I am listening to
you, because you know more than I do."
That is what it plainly says.
And yet you are complaining and claiming that he is being insulting.
Why? Because you don't un
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And this post is correct. Although there are no firewall rules visible
in the GUI, they _are_ there and the port _was_ being blocked.
Open the port and it worked instantly.
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E: connecting to '192.168.122.1': 192.168.122.1:24800
WARNING: failed to connect to server: Connection refused
NOTE: connecting to '192.168.122.1': 192.168.122.1:24800
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t;real" address is a 10.x.y.z one and the
192.* one is... something else. They can ping each other on the 192.*
address but not on the 10.* address.
I can get the server to start on the host (i.e. with k/b & mouse) but
the remote machine I want to control says it can&#
high port (42424); no difference.
I've checked with ``lsof'' that nothing's using the standard ports - it isn't.
I'm out of ideas, TBH.
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nd yes, it hasn't changed in six years despite all the updates
> and rot that's gone on)
Reassured that it should work, I'll continue to play. I added the port
reservation on both sides, but the client still says it failed to
connect - connection refused. Most annoying.
It m
record of this fork for security fixes?
> Do they patch in hours, days or weeks after a 0day is discovered for FF?
That is a good question.
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the client and server never connect.
Can anyone give me any pointers as to how to start to troubleshoot this?
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On 11 May 2014 02:23, wrote:
> Liam Proven writes:
>>
>>
>> It will only install on NTFS, not FAT32 (& is too big to fit onto a
>> FAT16 volume) but that's an entirely different issue.
>
>
> A Fedora list is the last place I'd expect to get int
to a
FAT16 volume) but that's an entirely different issue.
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On 8 May 2014 13:29, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> On a machine with only 1 Go of RAM, which version of fedora would you
> recommand?
On my work machine, which is more than fast enough to run GNOME Shell,
I have switched to XFCE and I am much happier with it.
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On 10 April 2014 15:13, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Agreed. Unfortunately the app doesn't support the "quote only the
> selected text" trick.
True, it doesn't. You can block-select stuff to delete, though.
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On 9 April 2014 18:05, Liam Proven wrote:
> I was just ranting about this /right before/ the Heartbleed thing became
> public:
But Gmail didn't want me to paste the link, which is:
http://liam-on-linux.livejournal.com/42285.html
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Just a guess: that is just a subcomponent of KDE and doesn't install
the whole desktop.
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On 2 April 2014 22:13, poma wrote:
> Long live the Phoronix! :)
No idea what that means. I am well aware of Phoronix the Linux
performance-testing and tech news site, but not of any relevance to
this discussion.
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ding to, using a play on words for
Canonical's rival X.11 replacement project to Wayland, which is
codenamed Mir.
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ly needed.
But there are lots of docs written from the POV of one camp or the
other, singing the praises of their in-house product in vague nebulous
marketing-speak and damning the other. This is no use to anyone.
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with AIGLX. Or,
more recently, as Debian has adopted Systemd over Canonical's Upstart
and Canonical has announced it will follow suit.
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On 2 April 2014 12:01, Vikram Goyal wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:40:36PM +0000, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>> As I have said previously, I have /never/ successfully installed
>> Fedora on actual hardware since v1.0 shipped in, what was it, 2003? I
>> have installed H
pears to be a very dumb
> question/complaint, it actually is not dumb but just plain ambigiousness
> in UI. Confusion mostly arises from inadequate info where decision making
> is required, which is amply available with the developers but to the
> users, due to bad UI.
I entirely concu
land, the apps should,
in theory, run just as before, with no need for X.11 or an
X-compatible layer.
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On 26 March 2014 22:42, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>
> Yes, I recall that the first Unix system I ran, version 5 on a pdp-11/23,
> had two (enormous) 10MB disks, one for the kernel and the other /usr .
Wow.
Well, that's *us* told. Schooled, even.
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On 24 March 2014 16:37, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Mar 5, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
>
>>
>> /dev/sda5 / 16GB <- this is where I want to put Fedora; it used to be
>> elementary's /
>
> Is this a plain partition, or is it an LVM physical volum
mprehensible than traditional Unix
systems.
http://www.gobolinux.org/
I also really like projects like OSv, to design dedicated OSes just to
run inside VMs serving single tasks, reducing the huge duplication
involved in current whole-system-emulation x86 virtualisation.
http://osv.io/
Throwing o
,
> on just Fedora? Are you unfamiliar with the installer's rather substantial
> logging feature, always enabled, with easily recovered logs? Have you looked
> at them, or had anyone else look at them? What was the cause of the failure?
Nope. See above. "Fa
ment it. I've told you where to find the logs,
> and more than one way to make them available. Your lack of curiosity and
> active resistance to finding out the cause of these install failures is
> suspicious.
No, I think *you're* suspicious, and that is a rather different thing.
/ modern distro that has boot, root & source
media any more, or which supports installation from multiple floppies.
Even offering installation from multiple CDs is rare to unheard-of
now. Indeed CD support itself is disappearing - they're too small for
OSes here in the 2nd decade of C21.
On 24 March 2014 15:08, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 02:47:18PM +0000, Liam Proven wrote:
>> I have to say that you are one of the most hostile, confrontational
>
> I said this before and I'll say it again if I have to (but I hope I don't).
> Ple
On 24 March 2014 15:02, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 03/24/2014 03:12 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>> On 24 March 2014 12:45, lee wrote:
>>>
>>> /usr belongs on it`s own partition. And last time I looked, it would
>>> not be compliant with the FHS not to hav
On 23 March 2014 20:19, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
>
>> On 22 March 2014 18:25, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> Make sure you file a bugzilla.
>>
>> How/why? It's not a bug.
>
> How do you know? You haven't file
On 24 March 2014 01:33, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-03-23 at 18:24 +0000, Liam Proven wrote:
>> On 22 March 2014 18:25, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> > Make sure you file a bugzilla.
>>
>> How/why? It's not a bug.
>
> If it doesn't wo
tch between these until they are done --- or let the installer
> do whatever partitioning it wants, which means that all existing data on
> the disks will be deleted.
Mostly, I would agree, actually.
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On 22 March 2014 18:29, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> How old are they?
May I just point out at this instance that the current versions of
VMware and VirtualBox both cannot boot from USB?
It is an error to assume that all modern hardware can. It can't.
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ld not normally consider filing it.
> FWIW, for problems such as this one I just happen to have spare disks that
> aren't bad. They were just replaced for ones of larger capacity. I
> understand you may not be in the same position.
I do not understand this paragraph at all.
the breadth of scenarios a successful
installer must cope with!
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On 22 March 2014 17:06, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 16:40 +0000, Liam Proven wrote:
>> As I have said previously, I have /never/ successfully installed
>> Fedora on actual hardware since v1.0 shipped in, what was it, 2003? I
>> have installed Ha
On 22 March 2014 16:55, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:40:36 +
> Liam Proven wrote:
>
>> Meantime, for further Fedora eval, it's going in a VirtualBox. Sad,
>> but that's all it seems able to handle.
>
> Actually, that's the key to
for everyone. Just
for me, in a moderately sophisticated but not massively difficult
multiboot scenario with 3 other distros and Windows.
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u.
> Now, if you didn't file a bug about your anecdote, I want you to imagine me
> staring at you with a look of "really?" Because this much effort complaining
> yet no bug report? How exactly do you expect it to get better?
I have the info I wanted for a comparative OS
"There could be, if you mixed them up," said Wensleydale, blinking
owlishly. "You know. Strawberry *and* chocolate. Chocolate *and*
vanilla." He sought for more English flavours. "Strawberry *and*
vanilla *and* chocolate," he added, lamely.
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how it looks from
elsewhere. There are even forks of RPM itself - e.g. http://rpm5.org/
I don't know but I bet that online repository formats are incompatible, too.
This kind of thing is an issue, and unless or until it's fixed, the
Debian family will hold an upper hand there.
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On 22 March 2014 01:20, g wrote:
> some who like all 3 may also like metropolitan ice cream. tho some
> who like all 3 do not like metropolitan ice cream.
I think that's "Neapolitan". :-D
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titions and
was unable to recreate it in the available empty space.
It *is* broken and it *is* unusable. "Well it works for me" is *not*
an adequate reply.
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n
help with this - as does running the latest available kernel. ACPI is
usually responsible & it's a compatibility minefield for non-Windows
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e XP as possible, so that people can pretend they're still using Windows.
I have been looking at Zorin for a possible review recently. I wasn't
that impressed. There are /loads/ of Windows-like Ubuntu remixes
already - #1 is Mint, then there's Lubuntu; Xubuntu can be made into
it trivially
he eyeballs,
as it were, even if it's not cool any more either.
Do you guys ever ask yourselves /why/ that is and if there's anything
you could do to change it?
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On 13 March 2014 16:20, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
> Is it because I am booted in to
> Fedora that I can't modify the size?
Probably, yes. It is safest to use a LiveCD or Live USB stick to do
partition manipulation.
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t extend to, for instance, MS Office for the Mac, which is
not even close in accessibility to MS Office on Windows.
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in all my own emails, not just on mailing lists, but I make
an exception for my blind friends.
Just a thought.
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oot with the
> configfile option from a separate stand alone grub2 partition
> I have installed.
Heh!
Something like that had occurred to me. I had thought of installing
onto an external USB drive, then copying the result onto the hard
disk... But this should not be necessary!
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seems, since you're obviously NOT done yet..., especially if you
> want to reclaim previously used space.
Well, I have to say, I can only agree...
> At least the old Anaconda guided you thru it step by step.
I've not tried it in a few versions and only in VMs
t appear in the list of installs and I can't choose it.
It is very annoying.
> The designers/developers have apparently decided to prioritize ease of use
> at the expense of some of the "advanced" features, thinking that those who
> do things differently know how to do it.
Yes,
> is that everything in the new installer is obscure as heck, 'specially
> in the area of defining partitions and their usage. sometimes I
> stumble around in there trying to make it do what I want for quite
> a while.
I am really glad to hear you say that!
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et me choose it as an
option. I can't remove and recreate it, either - or at least, I can't
see how. I also can't see how to tell it to put the bootloader in the
root partition.
Is it me, or is the installer just not flexible enough to cope with
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