Re: Upgrade time again - in-place or fresh install? - Postgresql and Podman DBs?

2024-12-06 Thread Peter Boy Uni
> Am 07.12.2024 um 05:13 schrieb Philip Rhoades via users > : > > People, > > Years ago I got caught when there was a major change of PG and I had to go > back to a previous version of Fedora to export the PG data so I could import > it into the new PG on the new Fedora - so I have been rout

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/24 7:14 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 7/12/24 13:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: There's nothing accumulating here.  The lock file is checked at application startup.  If it's still valid, then the new process will not start, probably passing information to the existing process.  If it's not vali

Upgrade time again - in-place or fresh install? - Postgresql and Podman DBs?

2024-12-06 Thread Philip Rhoades via users
People, Years ago I got caught when there was a major change of PG and I had to go back to a previous version of Fedora to export the PG data so I could import it into the new PG on the new Fedora - so I have been routinely (more-or-less) doing these exports as part of my normal backup process

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 13:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/6/24 6:20 PM, Tim via users wrote: I think in Firefox's case, it's more of some kind of flag that it uses only for itself, rather than anything else (not preventing something else deleting it, for instance).  From my programming in binary days (when *yo

Re: Non-sensical DNF Functionality

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 13:27, Todd Zullinger wrote: Stephen Morris wrote: Yes, but this still highlights the final question as "sudo dnf download symlinks-1.7-11.fc41.src" does the download but as shown above "sudo dnf install symlinks-1.7-11.fc41.src" won't do the install. How do I find where the source h

Re: Non-sensical DNF Functionality

2024-12-06 Thread Todd Zullinger
Stephen Morris wrote: > Yes, but this still highlights the final question as "sudo dnf download > symlinks-1.7-11.fc41.src" does the download but as shown above "sudo dnf > install symlinks-1.7-11.fc41.src" won't do the install. > > How do I find where the source has been installed to when under d

Re: How to change root "/" partition?

2024-12-06 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-12-06 at 14:44 -0400, George N. White III wrote: > AI-fueled clickbait sites often dominate search results and multiply > the same AI halucinations I only see this getting worse. In the past, anything you searched for you always had to think about what you read, and could look for c

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/24 6:20 PM, Tim via users wrote: I think in Firefox's case, it's more of some kind of flag that it uses only for itself, rather than anything else (not preventing something else deleting it, for instance). From my programming in binary days (when *you* are the compiler) it's like storing

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Tim via users
Samuel Sieb: > > Right. That's an example of what I meant by an application storing > > text data in a symlink. Even if they were rpm installed, the lock > > files most likely won't be owned by the rpm. I expect installed files to be owned by the RPM, but not files created by the program later

Re: Non-sensical DNF Functionality

2024-12-06 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 8:53 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > On 7/12/24 12:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 8:30 PM Stephen Morris > wrote: > > I have enabled the Fedora source repository so that I can install the > symlinks source.l > Having enabled the source repositor

Re: Non-sensical DNF Functionality

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 12:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 8:30 PM Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I have enabled the Fedora source repository so that I can install the symlinks source.l Having enabled the source repository I issued the command "sudo dnf install symlinks-1.7-11.fc41.sr

Re: Non-sensical DNF Functionality

2024-12-06 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 8:30 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > Hi, > I have enabled the Fedora source repository so that I can install the > symlinks source.l > Having enabled the source repository I issued the command "sudo dnf > install symlinks-1.7-11.fc41.src" (the binary package tells me

Non-sensical DNF Functionality

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     I have enabled the Fedora source repository so that I can install the symlinks source.l     Having enabled the source repository I issued the command "sudo dnf install symlinks-1.7-11.fc41.src" (the binary package tells me the source is symlinks-1.7-11.fc41.src.rpm) and got the followin

Re: What Does the Symlinks Command do?

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 11:12, Will McDonald wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 23:57, Stephen Morris wrote: On 7/12/24 10:52, Will McDonald wrote: That said, I've never maintained anything other than internal org SPEC files and I suspect the investment in maintenance is probably significant. Re

Re: Adobe Digital Editions v 4.5 and Wine on Fedora?

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 11:16, Will McDonald wrote: On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 at 00:01, Stephen Morris wrote: On 7/12/24 10:44, Will McDonald wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 23:28, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/12/24 13:39, Sbob wrote: The only reason I need this is to download an eb

Re: Adobe Digital Editions v 4.5 and Wine on Fedora?

2024-12-06 Thread Will McDonald
On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 at 00:01, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 7/12/24 10:44, Will McDonald wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 23:28, Stephen Morris > wrote: > >> On 6/12/24 13:39, Sbob wrote: >> > > > The only reason I need this is to download an ebook in epub format. >>> >> >> There are linux epub read

Re: What Does the Symlinks Command do?

2024-12-06 Thread Will McDonald
On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 23:57, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 7/12/24 10:52, Will McDonald wrote: > > That said, I've never maintained anything other than internal org SPEC > files and I suspect the investment in maintenance is probably significant. > Replace it (or wrap it) with a local Python script,

Re: Adobe Digital Editions v 4.5 and Wine on Fedora?

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 10:44, Will McDonald wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 23:28, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/12/24 13:39, Sbob wrote: The only reason I need this is to download an ebook in epub format. There are linux epub readers available, I thought I had one installed but I

Re: What Does the Symlinks Command do?

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 10:52, Will McDonald wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 23:39, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/12/24 09:35, Will McDonald wrote: On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 at 21:29, Stephen Morris wrote: I might be skating on thin ice here, but here goes, as a developer, and the way I w

Re: What Does the Symlinks Command do?

2024-12-06 Thread Will McDonald
On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 23:39, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 6/12/24 09:35, Will McDonald wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 at 21:29, Stephen Morris > wrote: > >> I might be skating on thin ice here, but here goes, as a developer, and >> the way I write programs to the level of user friendliness required

Re: Adobe Digital Editions v 4.5 and Wine on Fedora?

2024-12-06 Thread Will McDonald
On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 at 23:28, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 6/12/24 13:39, Sbob wrote: > The only reason I need this is to download an ebook in epub format. >> > > There are linux epub readers available, I thought I had one installed but > I can't find it at the moment, but Okular will read epub fi

Re: What Does the Symlinks Command do?

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 6/12/24 09:35, Will McDonald wrote: On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 at 21:29, Stephen Morris wrote: I might be skating on thin ice here, but here goes, as a developer, and the way I write programs to the level of user friendliness required where I work, in my view what is happening is ba

Re: Adobe Digital Editions v 4.5 and Wine on Fedora?

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 6/12/24 13:39, Sbob wrote: All; I am trying to install wine and adobe digital editions, I am setting up a Fedora queme VM for this, I can setup Fedpra 40 or Fedora 41, I have found several wine/adobe digital editions install guides but so far none of them work. Anyone have a set of ins

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 09:58, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/6/24 2:53 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 7/12/24 01:43, Barry Scott wrote: On 6 Dec 2024, at 13:13, Tim via users wrote: I suppose there could be symlinks that don't point to something, now, but might in the future?  Or, normally do, but didn't at

Re: dnf error on F41 update this morning

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 00:45, Neal Becker wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 7:37 PM Neal Becker wrote: Did you find any problems other than the message? I haven't seen any problems that were noticeable to me, and I've done several updates since the one in question and as yet haven't had a re-occurrenc

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/24 2:53 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 7/12/24 01:43, Barry Scott wrote: On 6 Dec 2024, at 13:13, Tim via users wrote: I suppose there could be symlinks that don't point to something, now, but might in the future?  Or, normally do, but didn't at the time of your test. Seems that al

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/12/24 01:43, Barry Scott wrote: On 6 Dec 2024, at 13:13, Tim via users wrote: I suppose there could be symlinks that don't point to something, now, but might in the future?  Or, normally do, but didn't at the time of your test. Seems that all the dangling symlinks on my KDE VM are ow

Re: How to change root "/" partition?

2024-12-06 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:06 AM Robin Laing wrote: > > Just about all the sites have pointed to running scrub under a cron > script on a regular basis to help minimize issues and ensure integrity > of the drive. I don't know what it does, just what I have read. > AI-fueled clickbait sites often

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Barry Scott
> On 6 Dec 2024, at 13:13, Tim via users wrote: > > I suppose there could be symlinks that don't point to something, now, > but might in the future? Or, normally do, but didn't at the time of > your test. Seems that all the dangling symlinks on my KDE VM are owned by RPMs. I ran this to find

Re: dnf error on F41 update this morning

2024-12-06 Thread Neal Becker
I got the same message again with dnf update this morning. Journalctl shows this: Dec 06 08:44:03 nbecker0 systemd[531438]: Reached target exit.target - Exit the Session. Dec 06 08:44:03 nbecker0 systemd[1]: user@0.service: Deactivated successfully. Dec 06 08:44:03 nbecker0 systemd[1]: Stopped use

Re: DNF Upgrade Cleanup Dangling Symlinks

2024-12-06 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-12-06 at 08:58 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > It is my understanding, which could be completely wrong, that a > symlink is not a physical file as such and doesn't contain any data > as such, it just links to somewhere that does contain the data (be it > a file or folder). If the target

Re: How to change root "/" partition?

2024-12-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2024-12-05 at 23:05 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: > Each person has their own usage and needs.  As I said, I will give BTRFS > a closer look in the near future.  Working with volumes is a new domain > for me to learn.  I have worked with ext file system for over a decade. > I know it isn't p