Re: clock applet not showing weather

2023-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:28 AM Tim via users wrote: > > Lately, across several different Linux installs the MATE's clock applet > that shows the time and date on the title bar has been unable to show > the local weather. > > Looking in the journal I see lots of this, which I presume is related:

Re: Why Fedora/RHEL/CentOS Stream is not boot from other Linux district?

2023-11-15 Thread fedoraUser 2023
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Re: clock applet not showing weather

2023-11-15 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Tim: I am running Centos 7 and at some point I noticed that weather info vanished. I just ran journalctl and can see the same message. Paul On 11/15/23 21:28, Tim via users wrote: Lately, across several different Linux installs the MATE's clock applet that shows the time and date on the titl

Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/15/23 09:03, Barry Scott wrote: What do you get when you do the following commands: rpm -ql rpm-libs dnf list installed rpm-libs I am on FC39 now and I forced updated dnf to the fc39 version $ rpm -ql rpm-libs /usr/lib/.build-id /usr/lib/.build-id/a8 /usr/lib/.build-id/a8/ad83daa16d

Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/15/23 10:28, Jeffrey Walton wrote: `dnf repolist enabled` may be helpful: $ dnf repolist enabled repo idrepo name fedora Fedora 39 - x86_64 fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 39 OpenH264 (from Cisco) - x86_64 updates

clock applet not showing weather

2023-11-15 Thread Tim via users
Lately, across several different Linux installs the MATE's clock applet that shows the time and date on the title bar has been unable to show the local weather. Looking in the journal I see lots of this, which I presume is related: clock-applet[9632]: Failed to get METAR data: 308 Permanent Re

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Strategic attack kittens? >> >> But being serious, is the hardware clock set correctly? Patrick O'Callaghan: > As reported by hwclock, yes > Is everything else fine at 8? You're not getting a mains power dive from something else coming on via a timer? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-11

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 20:11 -0600, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > For good measure, I even mapped out how to get out of the insert mode > directly, without having to launch a few missiles too: > > inoremap :q > > These seem to work. Doesn't just hitting ESCAPE do that? -- uname -rsvp Linu

Re: Desktop scaling not working on F39 + X1 Carbon 3rd gen

2023-11-15 Thread Frederic Muller
On 15/11/2023 09:55, Frederic Muller wrote: On 15/11/2023 04:42, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/11/23 19:34, Frederic Muller wrote: Hi! Upgraded from F38 and trying to get 150% scaling as 100% is too small and 200% too big. Both |gsettings reset org.gnome.mutter experimental-features or gsett

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Robert Nichols
On 11/15/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, yet nothing in the cron configuration is

Re: Why Fedora/RHEL/CentOS Stream is not boot from other Linux district?

2023-11-15 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 15, 2023, at 11:33, fedoraUser 2023 wrote: > > Fedora/CentOS/RHEL boot only from this grub. When install Fedora and CentOS, > CentOS no boot from Fedora boot loader, Fedora no boot From CentOS boot > loader. Why? I can think of one reason: On UEFI systems with secure boot enabled, the

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Wed Nov15'23 09:58:23AM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote: > From: Ranjan Maitra via users > Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 09:58:23 -0600 > To: Community support for Fedora users > Cc: Ranjan Maitra > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless > > On Wed N

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 15:02 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > You might try not doing a hibernate and see if it still goes at 8am. > That way you at least know it is not related to hibernate. > I'll do that. I've looked over historical journal entries and this behaviour started around the end of July.

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and I don't see

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 23:02 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at > > > 8am, > > > yet nothing in the cron configuration is te

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at > > 8am, > > yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and > > I > > don't see anything obvious in the jour

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and I don't see anything obvious in the journal to cause it. How can I figure out what is triggering this? I know the

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 05:12 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 12:17 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Either way, the forced boot still happens at 08:00 and not after a > > 10-minute timeout, so the mystery continues. > > Strategic attack kittens? > > But being serious, is t

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/15/2023 02:15 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: Wonder if changing to lightdm would work? Have used lightdm in past with some machines, and it seems to be a simplier desktop manager, but still works with gnome and xfce? I don't know about Gnome, but it's the default with Xfce. ___

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Interesting plasma-workspace-x11 https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/plasma-workspace/plasma- workspace-x11/index.html Nov 15 10:46:36 OaklandWeather.localdomain sddm[1125]: Invalid session "" Seems to be issue?? Wonder if changing to lightdm would work? Have used lightdm in past with some m

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Roger Heflin
You might try not doing a hibernate and see if it still goes at 8am. That way you at least know it is not related to hibernate. Cron, or something in the bios. I would have thought that if you had the bios set to power up the node at time X then it would be smart enough not to reboot/recycle the

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 22:26 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > Now I understand, it is the local graphic login that is not working? > 1. Did you install the server install on tis machine or the > workstation one? > Think the server installation doesn't install the gui by default. > Did that once

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 12:17 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Either way, the forced boot still happens at 08:00 and not after a > 10-minute timeout, so the mystery continues. Strategic attack kittens? But being serious, is the hardware clock set correctly? -- NB: All unexpected mail to m

Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 12:04 PM Barry Scott wrote: > > On 15 Nov 2023, at 16:18, ToddAndMargo via users > wrote: > > I had the same as you until today when I did a `dnf upgrade`. > Then all hell broke loose and librpmio and librpm got upgraded > to 10. > > On my f38 system there is no .10 > > #

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 17:21, stan via users > wrote: > > I work around that by configuring hh and uu as . Since I > (almost) always finish input by pressing one of them, the command > mode is available, so I just hit > :w > to save. I guess it is a matter of taste, a trade off. I know few v

Re: upgrade packages problem

2023-11-15 Thread GianPiero Puccioni
On 15/11/2023 18:05, stan via users wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 15:23:16 +0100 GianPiero Puccioni wrote: Hi, During a normal upgrade (F38 with KDE on a Dell G15 Laptop) I got this errors: Skipping packages with conflicts: qt5-qtbasex86_645.15.11-3.fc38updates 3.6

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:26:38 -0600 Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > On Mon Nov13'23 11:41:28AM, George N. White III wrote: > > From: "George N. White III" > > Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 11:41:28 -0400 > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > Reply-To: Community support for > > Fedora users S

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 15.11.23 um 15:48 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: My experience is entirely different. For me it's been the smoothest upgrade I've seen in years. Just one example of many I am experiencing, I dared to bz'ed so far: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2248838 Ralf

Re: upgrade packages problem

2023-11-15 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 15:23:16 +0100 GianPiero Puccioni wrote: > Hi, > > During a normal upgrade (F38 with KDE on a Dell G15 Laptop) I got > this errors: > > Skipping packages with conflicts: > qt5-qtbasex86_645.15.11-3.fc38updates > 3.6 M Skipping packages with broken

Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 16:18, ToddAndMargo via users > wrote: > > I had the same as you until today when I did a `dnf upgrade`. > Then all hell broke loose and librpmio and librpm got upgraded > to 10. On my f38 system there is no .10 # dnf install /usr/lib64/librpm.so.10 Last metadata expirat

Why Fedora/RHEL/CentOS Stream is not boot from other Linux district?

2023-11-15 Thread fedoraUser 2023
Fedora/CentOS/RHEL boot only from this grub. When install Fedora and CentOS, CentOS no boot from Fedora boot loader, Fedora no boot From CentOS boot loader. Why? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to us

Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:07 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I fix this?

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:58 AM Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > > [...] > I have pretty much given up on emacs now and am working to get nvim to a > (for me) saner state. It is quite amazing how quickly we adapt to new > environments, though falling back to old ways of doing things, out of >

Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread Roger Heflin
It would have to be some sort of package problem. Unless something specifically deleted that so.9 link (which seems unlikely). Clearly dnf thinks it needs so.9 but you only have so.10 I just upgraded my fc38 machine and have so.9 and this rpm version. What fedora version do you have and what r

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread Ranjan Maitra via users
On Wed Nov15'23 11:21:51AM, George N. White III wrote: > From: "George N. White III" > Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:21:51 -0400 > To: Community support for Fedora users > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:12 PM Ranjan Maitra

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 5:14 AM Tim via users wrote: > > Aha. I had been using dd as a delete for a long time, never thought of > it as part of a cut (and keep in a buffer). The paste one is one I > always forget, heck knows why since they used the letter P. It is a > rarity that I use it that

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:12 PM Ranjan Maitra via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > [...] > Still sad about having to give up on emacs, but, oh, well! ESS is not > really that well-supported (on Fedora, at least anymore). > There has been very little activity in the ESS site. Unles

Re: Problem with updating powerdevil and libddcutil from F38

2023-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 8:42 AM Qiyu Yan wrote: > > Just looked into the issue, the root cause is due to that 2 different > updates are being built and pushed simultaneously in 2 different > side-tags for 2 different sobumps, and one overrides another. > > This is being be sorted out by following

Re: Tip: default printer

2023-11-15 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 5:58 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > [...] > Hi George, > I was pointing this out because I don't use the IPP Anywhere > interface, and cups has never supplied drivers for my printer, I've had to > always the Epson supplied driver to enable printing in Linux. This was just

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:01 +0100, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > Am 15.11.23 um 11:27 schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: > > > This got better after a while for no apparent reason. I suspect > > that the > > dns server for my local net did not recognize the upgraded machine > > for a > > while, but then starte

upgrade packages problem

2023-11-15 Thread GianPiero Puccioni
Hi, During a normal upgrade (F38 with KDE on a Dell G15 Laptop) I got this errors: Skipping packages with conflicts: qt5-qtbasex86_645.15.11-3.fc38updates3.6 M Skipping packages with broken dependencies: kf5-akonadi-sex86_6423.08.1-2.fc38upda

Re: Problem with updating powerdevil and libddcutil from F38

2023-11-15 Thread Qiyu Yan
Hi, Just looked into the issue, the root cause is due to that 2 different updates are being built and pushed simultaneously in 2 different side-tags for 2 different sobumps, and one overrides another. This is being be sorted out by following update: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FED

Re: tigervnc won't remove

2023-11-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/14/23 19:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 18:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/14/23 16:37, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I fix this? You might try ju

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 15.11.23 um 11:27 schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: This got better after a while for no apparent reason. I suspect that the dns server for my local net did not recognize the upgraded machine for a while, but then started to when something timed out. Ssh is working, and also the machine (a server)

Re: Problem with updating powerdevil and libddcutil from F38

2023-11-15 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 12:55, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Thanks Barry. It looks like no joy. > > I opened a KDE bug, which was subsequently closed: > . I then opened the > Fedora-specific bug: > . >

Re: Problem with updating powerdevil and libddcutil from F38

2023-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 7:43 AM Barry Scott wrote: > >> On 15 Nov 2023, at 11:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> >> I see a couple of other specific questions about powerdevil and >> libddcutil from F38, but I don't see a clear path forward. >> >> How do I fix the problem? > > These are the version I s

Re: Problem with updating powerdevil and libddcutil from F38

2023-11-15 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 11:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > I see a couple of other specific questions about powerdevil and > libddcutil from F38, but I don't see a clear path forward. > > How do I fix the problem? These are the version I see: [root@armf38 ~]# rpm -q powerdevil libddcutil powerdev

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 10:27, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I suspect that the dns server for my local net did not recognize the upgraded > machine for a while, but then started to when something timed out. Ssh is > working, and also the machine (a server) is now visible. I sometimes have to flu

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 10:36 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > That is not a reboot.   That is a crash/power off or something else. > > You might move your wake up the machine to say 7:40 and see if the > machine still does it at 8am or then does it at 7:50 (10 min after > reboot). > > If it does it 10

Problem with updating powerdevil and libddcutil from F38

2023-11-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, I'm trying to upgrade a KDE-based workstation from F38 to F39. I delayed the upgrade to ensure this workstation would remain available. The delay allowed a problem with powerdevil and libddcutil to creep in. It is causing `dnf update` and `dnf update --refresh` to fail. I use only Fe

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 10:17 +, Barry wrote: > > On 15 Nov 2023, at 09:03, Jonathan Ryshpan > > wrote: > > I can no longer log in to the machine remotely via ssh > > Over time the security of ssh is improved as cryptography research > recommends. > If are using an old version of ssh to connect

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 20:15 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > Note sure what graphic login you are referring to? > I have used tigervnc up to Fedora 38, but found that there are > issues with 39, so have switch to TurboVNC. The "graphic login" is the plain ordinary login screen that appears whe

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Barry
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 09:03, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I can no longer log in to the machine remotely via ssh Over time the security of ssh is improved as cryptography research recommends. If are using an old version of ssh to connect that may be the problem. If you have a weak ssh key that m

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread simmon simmon
Dear Jonathan Ryshpan f39 is one of the smoothly updated versions, and some parts related to the actual GUI may be broken or parts necessary for the GUI may have been removed. Therefore, it seems that the problem will be solved by additionally installing the parts related to the GUI that you w

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Gvim fits that bill, and I can manage to use vim over ssh without a GUI >> when I need to fix things up, though I can never remember how to do cut >> and paste that way. home user: > Tim, I hope I'm not misunderstanding you, but in (g)vim, > the "dd" command deletes (cuts) the lines, an

Can't log in to graphical workstation

2023-11-15 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
I am not able to log in as a graphical user on one of my workstations. The login screen works normally, except that: * The "Session" box is empty * The "Layout" box reads "??zz" (?? is blue) When I type my password and hit return, nothing happens. I can run a terminal session (CTRL+ALT F2) OK, bu