Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 18:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Most sites that want to use your gmail address will redirect you to > google to do the authentication. If not, then don't enter your > password. And any site that stores plain-text passwords should be > banned from the internet. Unfortun

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 21:11 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > There have been some useful studies comparing different password > policies. Very long plain text passphrases without time limits are > now recommended over shorter passwords that expire every month or > two. About time! > I have

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/27/22 15:37, Tim via users wrote: Tim: Of course you get banks that only let you set an 8-character password, all in the name of security. Joe Zeff: OK, just use F$ckY0u! Password already in use, please choose another... More joking aside, I'll bet that's a very common one. There's a

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 7:37 PM Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > >> Of course you get banks that only let you set an 8-character > >> password, all in the name of security. > I've avoided using online bank accounts. When I complain about a withdrawal I didn't make, banks say you must have given yo

Fedora 36 KDE Wierdness

2022-07-27 Thread Robert McBroom via users
Running Fedora 36 with the KDE desktop. Whenever I leave the system it switches to some mode with a blank screen that will only return with ctl-alt-delete after a long wait period. No screensaver is set. The power settings are blank. Checked all the entries I know of to have it run until manual

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Of course you get banks that only let you set an 8-character >> password, all in the name of security. Joe Zeff: > OK, just use F$ckY0u! Password already in use, please choose another... More joking aside, I'll bet that's a very common one. There's an awful lot of things that want you t

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 11:04 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:05 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > Check into one of the KeePass variants. > > > > It has nothing to do with the specific password manager. I'm > > talking > > about banks that block the browser from filling in

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 23:43 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > > > It's just one of those exercises in manifest stupidity and > > > bureaucracy for the sake of it.  Oooh, ooh, it's possible for us > > > to > > > make a rule about resetting passwords, so we will. > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Thes

Re: /boot/efi

2022-07-27 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 12:20:56 -0400 "Chris Murphy" wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 11:20 AM, stan via users wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 10:54:51 +0200 > > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > >> If I have several distributions on a single machine with several > >> disks, should I have a single /boo

Re: 32 bit pam-libs?

2022-07-27 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:17:05 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > For a few days now, I've been getting update errors because > (apparently) the 32 bit pam isn't yet in the repos even though the 64 > bit version is newer: They build from the same source package, https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildin

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > OK, > This is correct, but is is absolutely confusing !!! > Same name 2 different files ! > > Are there both generated by grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg ? > I do not think so, if I check the date of creation. > How is generated /bo

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 7/27/22 08:13, Tim via users wrote: Of course you get banks that only let you set an 8-character password, all in the name of security. OK, just use F$ckY0u! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to us

Re: This is...disturbing...

2022-07-27 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 5:46 AM Michal Schorm wrote: > The "Speculations" section sound's to me like the wet dream of every > InfoSec in every company. > I believe many would pay the weight of Bill Gates in gold for that ... > should it work flawlessly. > > Outside of networks requiring very stri

Re: /boot/efi

2022-07-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 11:20 AM, stan via users wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 10:54:51 +0200 > Patrick Dupre wrote: > >> If I have several distributions on a single machine with several >> disks, should I have a single /boot/efi ? > > It will work as long as none of the installed distributions

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
OK, This is correct, but is is absolutely confusing !!! Same name 2 different files ! Are there both generated by grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg ? I do not think so, if I check the date of creation. How is generated /boot/grub2/grub.cfg ? > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 5:22 AM, Patrick D

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 5:22 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > In addition to my previous question. > Should I have a grub.cfg in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora ? There should be two: /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg /boot/grub2/grub.cfg The first one has a few lines to find and load the 2nd one. grubx$arch.efi

Re: /boot/efi

2022-07-27 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 10:54:51 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > If I have several distributions on a single machine with several > disks, should I have a single /boot/efi ? It will work as long as none of the installed distributions are duplicated, because that will duplicate the label. e.g. default

Re: bash: ./WINPM-32.EXE: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error

2022-07-27 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 18:00:11 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 7/26/22 17:48, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > > Use to be able to run command without added wine to > > front?? > > With Fedora 35 up to 7.10 worked fine, but 7.12 verion > > would cuase a spinning icon when opening email > > message. No

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Go Canes
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:05 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Check into one of the KeePass variants. > > It has nothing to do with the specific password manager. I'm talking > about banks that block the browser from filling in fields on their web > page. I have have one that won't even let me u

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-27 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> It's exactly the same issue with wanting to undo one thing in the >> middle of a word processor doc, or artwork in a graphic program. >> The undos/redos are all time-sequential, and not confineable to a >> specific area of the data. George N. White III: > There are applications that allow

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-27 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 09:04 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > A someone who is prepared to use bare-bones comand-line, the GUI > should provide the capabilities you get from a rescue kernel to mount > filesystems and use chroot. Yes, but what if graphical display is one of the things going bonke

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> It's just one of those exercises in manifest stupidity and >> bureaucracy for the sake of it. Oooh, ooh, it's possible for us to >> make a rule about resetting passwords, so we will. Patrick O'Callaghan: > These "rules" were formulated in the Olden Days, when people had at > most one or t

Re: /boot/efi

2022-07-27 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 10:54 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > If I have several distributions on a single machine with several > disks, should I have a single /boot/efi ? That is the general idea. It's part of the system bootloader, and different OSs put their bits in there. You'll find your Linux k

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 09:48 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 5:22 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > [...] Those same banks won't let me use my password manager to > > create a genuinely random password and remember it for me. > > Check into one of the KeePass variants. It has n

Re: uname -a

2022-07-27 Thread Go Canes
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 8:21 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > [...] >menuentry 'Fedora Linux 36 (Workstation Edition) (on /dev/sda6)' > --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option > 'osprober-gnulinux-/boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-03f1745f56634738ac83375619d247ec--a5b809ae-61c2-4d67-

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Go Canes
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 5:22 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > [...] Those same banks won't let me use my password manager to > create a genuinely random password and remember it for me. Check into one of the KeePass variants. ___ users mailing list -- us

32 bit pam-libs?

2022-07-27 Thread Tom Horsley
For a few days now, I've been getting update errors because (apparently) the 32 bit pam isn't yet in the repos even though the 64 bit version is newer: Problem 1: pam-1.5.2-12.fc36.i686 has inferior architecture - cannot install both pam-1.5.2-13.fc36.x86_64 and pam-1.5.2-12.fc36.x86_64 - can

Re: uname -a

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello every body, I still have this issue, I select (from grub) to boot on menuentry 'Fedora Linux 36 (Workstation Edition) (on /dev/sda6)' --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-gnulinux-/boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-03f1745f56634738ac83375619d247ec--a5b809ae-

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-27 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 8:23 PM Tim via users wrote: > On Tue, 2022-07-26 at 14:39 +, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Do you think a graphical rescue environment would be helpful in > > troubleshooting system problems? > > For some situations/people, yes. I think you need a bare-bones command > line

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
In addition to my previous question. Should I have a grub.cfg in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora ? > > Hello, > > Is there not something wrong with this > > When /boot/efi is ot mounted: > ls /boot/efi/ > EFI > > > while in the fstab > UUID=A686-D625 /boot/efi vfat > umask=00

Re: root account

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 08:22 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2022-07-25 at 18:50 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > there's no point in expiring the password to an account > > you're using yourself... > > I see no point in ever expiring any password, unless you're auto- > locking out sacked emplo

/boot/efi

2022-07-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, If I have several distributions on a single machine with several disks, should I have a single /boot/efi ? Thank === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplin

Re: This is...disturbing...

2022-07-27 Thread Michal Schorm
The "Speculations" section sound's to me like the wet dream of every InfoSec in every company. I believe many would pay the weight of Bill Gates in gold for that ... should it work flawlessly. Outside of networks requiring very strict content access control, it is - I believe - sentenced to the fa

Re: EFI

2022-07-27 Thread Barry Scott
> On 26 Jul 2022, at 19:02, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there not something wrong with this > > When /boot/efi is ot mounted: > ls /boot/efi/ > EFI That is normal - at least for my systems. $ mount | grep efi efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,