Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2019-11-21 20:41, Ed Greshko wrote: Advanced--->Date and Time Formatting Regional settings locale: und . I reset Preferences >   Advanced >  Regional  ,...   :und and the 24 hour time reappeared. Something caused that to change, an update, or something else I did? I dunno, but now I kno

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login.

2019-11-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/21/19 1:48 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> Indeed. And while pidof would have probably been a better >> solution for the initial problem we thought we were trying >> to solve, I think knowing that you only want to skip user1 >> from starting new xeyes if it is already runni

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login. [SOLVED]

2019-11-21 Thread home user
> On 11/21/19 4:24 PM, home user wrote: > > Just for curiosity, why? Is it so you can find your mouse pointer? Yes. In the good 'ol days when I was an AWIPS programmer, I learned the advantage of a 2-monitor workstation. At least a decade ago, published human factors research confirmed that a

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-11-16 04:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/15/19 7:27 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> How to configure 24 hour time, instead of AM/PM, in Thunderbird 62.2.0 nd/or >> 62.2.2. >> >> Presently I have created /usr/bin/thunderbird24h: >> >> /usr/bin/thunderbird24h: >> #!/bin/sh >> LC_TIME=C >> export LC

Re: Thunderbird and duplicate messages

2019-11-21 Thread home user
I do not know how related this is, or how relevant this is After last month upgrading to Fedora-30, and as a part of that, upgrading to Thunderbird 68, I sometimes experience the following: * after sending a message, the copy that is put in the Sent folder is bolded/highlighted like an unrea

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login. [SOLVED]

2019-11-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/21/19 4:24 PM, home user wrote:    # put one pair of xeyes in the upper right corner of the left monitor...    /usr/bin/xeyes -geometry 1000x150+1559+0 -fg black -center pink \   -outline black &    # and one pair of xeyes in the upper left corner of the right monitor.

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2019-11-22 09:18, Bob Goodwin wrote: > However after rebooting the computer Thunderbird time is still displayed in > the 12 hour AM/PM format on this > f-31 computer. FWIW, I'm just "testing" at the moment. I edited /usr/bin/thunderbird to add at the very beginning export LC_TIME=C I then

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/21/19 7:20 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi Bob, I could be wrong but from the cat ~/.bashrc you have shown here, the export command isn't there. regards, Steve . Yes, you are correct, I botched that ... I confused ~/.bashrc and /home.bobg/.bashrc After correcting that it is: [bobg@Wo

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login. [SOLVED]

2019-11-21 Thread home user
and the answer is... - bash.1[~]: cat .bash_profile # .bash_profile # Get the aliases and functions if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then     . ~/.bashrc fi # User specific environment and startup programs PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin export PATH # If there are no xeyes already running, then.

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Stephen Morris
On 22/11/19 08:12, Bob Goodwin wrote: . I did this the other day and it worked initially but quit and the list of messages is in 12 hour time again. A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora 30 (X86_64): to ~/.bashrc add the line export LC_TIME="C" Below is a

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login.

2019-11-21 Thread home user
Thank-you, Samuel. I did the experiment. Both the double-quotes and the square brackets had to be deleted. The result worked for user1 and user2 being regular users. Next I'll edit root's .bash_profile, and see if the solution works when user2 is root. Actually, user2 almost always is root.

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login.

2019-11-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/21/19 1:48 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/21/19 1:16 PM, home user wrote: if ! [[ "pgrep xeyes > /dev/null" ]] ; then This is still the problem. Remove those quotes. And you could remove the brackets as well, they aren't necessary. Indeed. And while pidof would

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login.

2019-11-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/21/19 1:16 PM, home user wrote: >> if ! [[ "pgrep xeyes > /dev/null" ]] ; then > > This is still the problem. Remove those quotes. And you could remove the > brackets as well, they aren't necessary. Indeed. And while pidof would have probably been a better solution f

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login.

2019-11-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/21/19 1:16 PM, home user wrote: if ! [[ "pgrep xeyes > /dev/null" ]] ; then This is still the problem. Remove those quotes. And you could remove the brackets as well, they aren't necessary. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login.

2019-11-21 Thread home user
I think at this point I should sort-of start over. Here is user1's actual .bash_profile: -bash.1[~]: cat .bash_profile # .bash_profile # Get the aliases and functions if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc fi # User specific environment and startup programs PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/b

Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

2019-11-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
. I did this the other day and it worked initially but quit and the list of messages is in 12 hour time again. A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora 30 (X86_64): to ~/.bashrc add the line export LC_TIME="C" Below is a copy of .bashrc with added line at the

Re: Thunderbird and duplicate messages

2019-11-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/21/19 9:03 AM, Alex wrote: I have a fedora30 desktop with Thunderbird 68.1.1 (64-bit), although I'm not sure the version matters. It's configured to connect using IMAP to a dovecot system also on fedora30. The problem is that when Thunderbird is open on multiple computers (the other is my

Re: Order of Users Displayed in Gnome Login Screen [SOLVED]

2019-11-21 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/20/19 1:51 PM, Tim Evans wrote: I reported this at the time I upgraded my two systems to F30, and find that it's still true with F31. On my main (desktop) machine, there are two users, one of which (me) is flagged as the administrative user; the other is a mere mortal.  My userid was di

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/20/19 1:40 PM, Roger Heflin wrote: I am seeing it occurring on the new kernels on f30, so the kernel does seem what is doing it. There is a new kernel every two days or so. The fix should be coming shortly ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.

Thunderbird and duplicate messages

2019-11-21 Thread Alex
Hi, I have a fedora30 desktop with Thunderbird 68.1.1 (64-bit), although I'm not sure the version matters. It's configured to connect using IMAP to a dovecot system also on fedora30. The problem is that when Thunderbird is open on multiple computers (the other is my Windows laptop), virtually ever

Re: how can I use a live usb to update ?

2019-11-21 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 06:49:44 -0500 sean darcy wrote: > Nothing is mounted under /mnt/sysimage. What should I mount there ? > The installed "/" partition ? Richard answered this question better than I would have. > Not sure what you mean by "boot into upgraded system as MBR". I can > see the F30

Re: how can I use a live usb to update ?

2019-11-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 5:50 AM sean darcy wrote: > > Nothing is mounted under /mnt/sysimage. What should I mount there ? The > installed "/" partition ? > Then you'll need to do it yourself. Many releases ago before the current live installer method it would find and mount the system automatica

Re: Nvidia driver irritation

2019-11-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/21/19 9:36 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I turn my display port connected monitor off over night > and when I turn it back on in the morning, I get no > video (no valid video anyway). This used to happen a while > back, then it stopped, now it is happening again. > > I find this nonsense in the Xo

Nvidia driver irritation

2019-11-21 Thread Tom Horsley
I turn my display port connected monitor off over night and when I turn it back on in the morning, I get no video (no valid video anyway). This used to happen a while back, then it stopped, now it is happening again. I find this nonsense in the Xorg.0.log: ... [ 53942.071] (WW) NVIDIA(0): MetaMod

Re: .bash_profile: line execution based on su vs. direct login.

2019-11-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2019-11-20 at 16:52 -0700, home user wrote: > > if ! pidof ksysguard > /dev/null ; then ... > Thank-you Patrick. > I studied the man page for pidof. As I understand it, it implies that > pidof does not work across login names; user2 cannot see user1's processes: You misread what the man

Re: how can I use a live usb to update ?

2019-11-21 Thread sean darcy
On 11/20/19 7:33 PM, stan via users wrote: On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:08:23 -0500 Sean Darcy wrote: I upgraded 29-> 30. Now I can't even get to the boot screen. I've made a live usb stick, but the stick only wants to install a completely new system. Is there any way to use the stick to troubleshoo