Re: Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/28/16 14:42, Ed Greshko wrote: > Ooops... Forget this last try I was on an F25 VM. > > Going to do same on F24. > > Wait a bit Well the core dump was the same in F24 as F25. I have found this https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1808558-openoffice-4-1-2-4-1-3-crashed-on-

Re: PostgreSQL broken by upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Raman Gupta
> On 11/27/2016 10:27 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: > Install postgresql-upgrade. If you have any databases that use postgis, postgresql-upgrade fails spectacularly. You do have to take some manual steps to get the binaries for the older version, so that the upgrade completes. This blog post was hel

Re: PostgreSQL broken by upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/27/2016 10:27 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: In it's infinite wisdom, the upgrade from F23 to F24 updates PostgreSQL from 9.4 to 9.5.5 making existing databases unusable. What else could it do? Never upgrade PostgreSQL? I suppose that there is a warning about this somewhere but it certainly

Re: Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
Ooops... Forget this last try I was on an F25 VM. Going to do same on F24. Wait a bit On 11/28/16 14:36, Ed Greshko wrote: > Oh, FWIW, I have a VM. So, I erases libreoffice from my system and installed > Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3. -- You're Welcome Zachary Quinto ___

Re: Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/28/16 13:10, Stephen Davies wrote: > Looks as if you are running libreoffice rather than openoffice (from Apache). > > I also suspected the LD_LIBRARY_PATH but the root version is the same. Oh, FWIW, I have a VM. So, I erases libreoffice from my system and installed Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.

PostgreSQL broken by upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Stephen Davies
In it's infinite wisdom, the upgrade from F23 to F24 updates PostgreSQL from 9.4 to 9.5.5 making existing databases unusable. I suppose that there is a warning about this somewhere but it certainly isn't part of the upgrade process. I know that I can use pg_upgrade to migrate my databases but

Re: Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/28/16 13:10, Stephen Davies wrote: > Looks as if you are running libreoffice rather than openoffice (from Apache). > > I also suspected the LD_LIBRARY_PATH but the root version is the same. Oh, you are right. I am running libreoffice 5.2 as supplied by Fedora Project. I missed that you

Re: Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Stephen Davies
On 28/11/16 15:32, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/28/16 12:22, Stephen Davies wrote: If I run /usr/bin/soffice as root, it works and the Office menu appears. If I do the same as myself (sh -x /usr/bin/soffice), I get: + SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 + export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING ++ pwd + sd_cwd=/home

Re: Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/28/16 12:22, Stephen Davies wrote: > If I run /usr/bin/soffice as root, it works and the Office menu appears. > If I do the same as myself (sh -x /usr/bin/soffice), I get: > > + SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 > + export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING > ++ pwd > + sd_cwd=/home/scldad > + sd_res=/usr/bin

Re: Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Stephen Davies
On 28/11/16 14:26, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/28/16 09:55, Stephen Davies wrote: Following an upgrade from F23 to F24 yesterday, an attempt to start Open Office gives the following in /var/log/messages (worked fine under F23): Nov 28 12:22:13 mustang kwin_x11: QXcbWindow: Unhandled client messag

Re: Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/28/16 09:55, Stephen Davies wrote: > Following an upgrade from F23 to F24 yesterday, an attempt to start Open > Office gives the following in /var/log/messages (worked fine under F23): > > Nov 28 12:22:13 mustang kwin_x11: QXcbWindow: Unhandled client message: > "_NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP" > Nov

Re: Continuing dnf weirdness

2016-11-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:29 AM Ian Pilcher wrote: > That does sound like a plausible cause. The weird thing is that I > already have install_weak_deps=false in dnf.conf, and it doesn't look > like there's any separate setting for updates. > > So it *shouldn't* be trying to install weak de

Open Office fails after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Stephen Davies
Following an upgrade from F23 to F24 yesterday, an attempt to start Open Office gives the following in /var/log/messages (worked fine under F23): Nov 28 12:22:13 mustang kwin_x11: QXcbWindow: Unhandled client message: "_NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP" Nov 28 12:22:24 mustang kwin_x11: QXcbConnection: XCB

Re: Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/28/16 06:39, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Ok, I understand that. I made the changes to 10-evdev.conf as was > suggestedmore than a > year ago, assumed that just had to be. > > So in the present case /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d should survive updates, but how > would I > determine the sequence in which t

Re: Fedora 25 upgrade woes

2016-11-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2016 11:48 AM, Denis Leroy wrote: Problem still occurs on a fresh install, and /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't actually exist. I guess only lightdm is installed by the Live distro. Will try on other system. That's because gdm is the Gnome Display Manager and Xfce uses lightdm by default.

Re: Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/27/16 16:20, Ed Greshko wrote: That is why every system service has a location where a user can make changes to configurations which will not be overwritten by updates. In this case your changes should be made to a file that you create in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d. It would also be helpful w

Re: Fedora 25 upgrade woes

2016-11-27 Thread Denis Leroy
On 11/27/2016 11:20 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 08:48:42PM +0100, Denis Leroy wrote: Problem still occurs on a fresh install, and /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't actually exist. I guess only lightdm is installed by the Live distro. Will try on other system. In this case, it's

Re: Fedora 25 upgrade woes

2016-11-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 08:48:42PM +0100, Denis Leroy wrote: > Problem still occurs on a fresh install, and /etc/gdm/custom.conf > doesn't actually exist. I guess only lightdm is installed by the > Live distro. Will try on other system. In this case, it's definitely not Wayland. -- Matthew Mille

Re: Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/28/16 00:44, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Yes, after some updates I have had to go back and "fix" 3-button emulation, a > bother but > I am lost without it. Old habits are hard to break, especially > when they work better than the alternative. That is why every system service has a location wher

Re: Fedora 25 upgrade woes

2016-11-27 Thread Denis Leroy
On 11/27/2016 07:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 07:24:49PM +0100, Denis Leroy wrote: Both systems are very different. One is a Lenovo, built-in Intel graphics support and XFCE, the other is a Dell with a AMD Firepro M5100 graphics card running Cinnamon. Yet the result is th

Re: Fedora 25 upgrade woes

2016-11-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 07:24:49PM +0100, Denis Leroy wrote: > Both systems are very different. One is a Lenovo, built-in Intel > graphics support and XFCE, the other is a Dell with a AMD Firepro > M5100 graphics card running Cinnamon. Yet the result is the same. I > assumed Wayland is at fault her

Fedora 25 upgrade woes

2016-11-27 Thread Denis Leroy
Hi List, So I updated both my Fedora laptops from 24 to 25, resulting in both booting into black screens with no login dialogs and no way of going into a console or looking at logs. Both systems are very different. One is a Lenovo, built-in Intel graphics support and XFCE, the other is a D

Re: F25 nautilus problem: Double clicking on .tgz archives will extract them immediatley into the same directory

2016-11-27 Thread Joachim Backes
On 11/27/16 17:36, Branko Grubic wrote: On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 14:44 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: On 11/27/16 13:28, bitlord wrote: On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 11:57 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: Hy all F25 users, ... "Extract the files on open" Hi bitlord, following exactly your advice did not he

Re: Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/27/16 10:37, Ed Greshko wrote: 2 things to note here. First, that file is, as noted in the comments contained in the file, for evdev based systems. The default these days for Fedora is "libinput" not "evdev". Try not to confuse the 2. + I saw a reference to "libinput" but did not kno

Re: F25 nautilus problem: Double clicking on .tgz archives will extract them immediatley into the same directory

2016-11-27 Thread Branko Grubic
On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 14:44 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 11/27/16 13:28, bitlord wrote: > > On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 11:57 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: > > > Hy all F25 users, > > > > > > ... > > "Extract the files on open" > > Hi bitlord, following exactly your advice did not help: If now  > D

Re: Continuing dnf weirdness

2016-11-27 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 11/25/2016 03:43 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't have F25 installed anywhere yet, but from something I've seen mentioned on one of the lists, dnf currently prints that message for weak dependencies. And libreoffice-x11 is a weak dependency of libreoffice-core. So this is not a problem and wil

Re: Redshift and Dropbox not quite working after F24-F25 upgrade [partially SOLVED]

2016-11-27 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2016-11-25 at 14:21 -0500, Eric Griffith wrote: > Not sure about Dropbox, but RedShift is a known issue. Redshift's > model doesn't work under Wayland, the default session in F25. The > same idea as RedShift has been / is working on being integrated into > upstream Gnome and will work its w

Re: Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/16 23:22, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Doing as suggested corrects the problem: > > adding a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-3rdbutton.conf with the following > content: > > Section "InputClass" >Identifier "middle button" >MatchIsPointer "on" >MatchDriver "libinput" >Option "Middl

Re: Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/27/16 09:27, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 11/27/16 08:32, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/27/16 18:34, Bob Goodwin wrote: I'm having troubled setting middle button emulation in a new Fedora25 Workstation/XFCE installation. first I added: Section "InputClass" Identifier "middle button emulati

Re: Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 11/27/16 08:32, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/27/16 18:34, Bob Goodwin wrote: I'm having troubled setting middle button emulation in a new Fedora25 Workstation/XFCE installation. first I added: Section "InputClass" Identifier "middle button emulation class" MatchIsPointer "on"

Re: F25 XFCE font rendering

2016-11-27 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.11.2016, Heinz Diehl wrote: > I'll take a closer look at the remaining F24 system, where this wasn't > of any problem. I bet it has to do with the file mentioned before. For those who care: looked into it, and the file /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-hinting-slight.conf simply wasn't there in previou

Re: F25 nautilus problem: Double clicking on .tgz archives will extract them immediatley into the same directory

2016-11-27 Thread Joachim Backes
On 11/27/16 13:28, bitlord wrote: On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 11:57 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: Hy all F25 users, I'm running F25 with gnome/X11 desktop environment, and having problems with nautilus: I have some directories where .tgz archives are located. Suddenly, clicking on the .tgz files will

Re: Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/16 18:34, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I'm having troubled setting middle button emulation in a new Fedora25 > Workstation/XFCE > installation. first I added: > > Section "InputClass" > Identifier "middle button emulation class" > MatchIsPointer "on" > Option "Emulate3Buttons"

Re: F25 Wayland on Optimus-enabled laptops

2016-11-27 Thread Roman
В Сб, 26/11/2016 в 06:37 -0800, Link Dupont пишет: > Two headline features of Fedora 25 are: > > - Wayland by default > - Initial support for PRIME offload rendering for NVIDIA Optimus > laptops > > My laptop has a dual GPU setup (Skylake + GTX 970), but I can't seem > to > start a Wayland sessio

Re: F25 Wayland on Optimus-enabled laptops

2016-11-27 Thread AV
On Sat, 2016-11-26 at 06:37 -0800, Link Dupont wrote: > Two headline features of Fedora 25 are: > > - Wayland by default > - Initial support for PRIME offload rendering for NVIDIA Optimus > laptops > > My laptop has a dual GPU setup (Skylake + GTX 970), but I can't seem > to > start a Wayland ses

Re: F25 nautilus problem: Double clicking on .tgz archives will extract them immediatley into the same directory

2016-11-27 Thread bitlord
On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 11:57 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hy all F25 users, > > I'm running F25 with gnome/X11 desktop environment, and having > problems  > with nautilus: I have some directories where .tgz archives are > located.  > Suddenly, clicking on the .tgz files will no more open them and

Re: Fedora 24 -> 25 upgrade smooth and successful (but for one small vpn openconnect issue)

2016-11-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2016-11-26 at 20:33 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > That would be very difficult and not possible anyway, because you will > > have mismatched library requirements during the second part. > > I wonder if this would be impossible to implement, completely. After all, we > do go through upd

Re: Nvidia drivers on F25

2016-11-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 10:00 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 27.11.2016, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Got it, thanks. Turned out that dnf needed refreshing. It was 3 days > > old (since I updated to F25). I almost never needed to refresh manually > > on F24 so I don't know if this is a change o

F25 nautilus problem: Double clicking on .tgz archives will extract them immediatley into the same directory

2016-11-27 Thread Joachim Backes
Hy all F25 users, I'm running F25 with gnome/X11 desktop environment, and having problems with nautilus: I have some directories where .tgz archives are located. Suddenly, clicking on the .tgz files will no more open them and show their contents, but the .tgz file will be immediately unpacked

Middle Button Emulation -

2016-11-27 Thread Bob Goodwin
I'm having troubled setting middle button emulation in a new Fedora25 Workstation/XFCE installation. first I added: Section "InputClass" Identifier "middle button emulation class" MatchIsPointer "on" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on" Driver "evdev" EndSection to /us

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/16 14:32, Stephen Davies wrote: > Installing SDDM did the trick. > I didn't need to enable it. The install did that too. Good. Now that I think about it, I think any install of a DM results in it being enabled and if any DM was previously installed is disable. It is this same thing

Re: Nvidia drivers on F25

2016-11-27 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 27.11.2016, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Got it, thanks. Turned out that dnf needed refreshing. It was 3 days > old (since I updated to F25). I almost never needed to refresh manually > on F24 so I don't know if this is a change or a temporary hiccup. FWIW: I have encountered the same thing.