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2015-12-01 Thread jarmo
How I can get rid of this: Redundant argument in sprintf at /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/services/postfix line 1382, <> line 10 I see it every day in logwatch... Jarmo -- конец -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I do not also agree that this ML is not appropriate for bringing up points of general interest to all Fedora users. But I think my comments will be becoming repetitive soon so unless something new pops up, there is not much point in rehashing the points. Thanks to Michael for the extended and

After Mate upgrade panel disappears.

2015-12-01 Thread Frank McCormick
DNF upgraded my Fedora 22 machine tonightmostly the newest 1.12 version of Mate. Now my bottom panel has disappeared. HTOP says mate panel is loaded but nothing is visible on the screen. Any suggestion on how I can debug this latest improvement :) Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.f

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/01/2015 03:13 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:56:40 -0500, Terry Polzin wrote: It's time to take this discussion off-line That's a strange point of view. For a user trying to sign up as Fedora packager is is okay to use this list for a discussion. I don't agree that

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2015 05:02 PM, Chris Adams wrote: In the context of moving drives from computer to computer, I doubt you're going to type a UUID in by hand. Label works if you remember to set one. You get the UUID before moving the drive, and put it in a text file on a flash drive. Then, when you e

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Patrick O'Callaghan said: > On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 15:31 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > > With LVM, I still get /dev/vg_foo/lv_bar, and > > don't care what raw device the underlying partition is, how it is > > connected, etc. (very useful for example when taking an internal > > drive

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Joe Zeff said: > On 12/01/2015 01:31 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > >I find quite the opposite: without LVM, I have to know that the drive I > >just moved from computer to computer changed from sdb to sdc, and edit > >fstab and such manually. > > This is why you mount them either by U

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 15:31 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Patrick O'Callaghan said: > > Because I know what physical disks I have in my machine and I want > > to > > relate that to what I see in the output of df. I might even want to > > move a device to another machine and be able

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2015 01:31 PM, Chris Adams wrote: I find quite the opposite: without LVM, I have to know that the drive I just moved from computer to computer changed from sdb to sdc, and edit fstab and such manually. This is why you mount them either by UUID or Label. -- users mailing list users@list

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:56:40 -0500, Terry Polzin wrote: > It's time to take this discussion off-line That's a strange point of view. For a user trying to sign up as Fedora packager is is okay to use this list for a discussion. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: It's 2015, and OOM handling still sucks

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 December 2015 at 18:47, Neal Becker wrote: > Ian Malone wrote: > >> On 1 December 2015 at 15:19, Neal Becker wrote: >>> I have a pretty nice workstation, with 8 cores and 32G RAM. >>> >>> A stupid little python program just killed it by consuming all the >>> memory, driving it into swapping

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:49:20 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > OK, thank you for being "blunt" but my general point is that putting in a > package for review is needlessly bureaucratic and does no justice to the > volunteers on either side. > If at all, the bureaucracy that could be removed is the r

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Terry Polzin
It's time to take this discussion off-line On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > > > > To put it bluntly -- and the Fedora Project has done a good job at > teaching > > people to be more blunt -- if you're so reluctant with regard to many > simple > > things/tasks, one a

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, > > To put it bluntly -- and the Fedora Project has done a good job at teaching > people to be more blunt -- if you're so reluctant with regard to many simple > things/tasks, one alternative is to sit and wait and offer your packages > somewhere else. Such as Fedora Copr. Or hope that Fedora

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Patrick O'Callaghan said: > Because I know what physical disks I have in my machine and I want to > relate that to what I see in the output of df. I might even want to > move a device to another machine and be able to mount the right > partitions in the right places. With "normal

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 09:29 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > Not so. If you have LVM you have to*know*  you have LVM, otherwise > your > > disk partition names won't make any sense. Just doing a "df" > requires you to know this and understand what it means. > > Why is understanding the device name

f23: How to capture the lid close event and ...

2015-12-01 Thread Dario Lesca
... do some action, like execute a custom shell, independently from the desktop environment use? Many thanks for your suggestion. -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

Re: It's 2015, and OOM handling still sucks

2015-12-01 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/01/2015 07:19 AM, Neal Becker wrote: I have a pretty nice workstation, with 8 cores and 32G RAM. A stupid little python program just killed it by consuming all the memory, driving it into swapping hell. I couldn't even ssh into it - I started up ssh and went for coffee. On return I still

Re: It's 2015, and OOM handling still sucks

2015-12-01 Thread Neal Becker
Ian Malone wrote: > On 1 December 2015 at 15:19, Neal Becker wrote: >> I have a pretty nice workstation, with 8 cores and 32G RAM. >> >> A stupid little python program just killed it by consuming all the >> memory, driving it into swapping hell. >> >> I couldn't even ssh into it - I started up ss

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 08:20:45 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > The ticket has not even been visible in the needsponsor queue because the > > fedora-review flag set to '?' means there is a reviewer working on it. > > OK, I missed this. But should this not be set as the default? > What is the point

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 09:56:39 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:37:15 + James Hogarth wrote: > > > Although adjusting spec as per direction from others you don't appear to be > > making an effort on the process/people side of things. > > But should a volunteer effort be so

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 08:25:28 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > My BZ account goes back in time -- I have been quite active in submitting and > testing bug reports for almost ten years -- so it has a different e-mail > address (when more mailing lists plastered your e-mail address and name > unfilte

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/01/2015 06:35 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/01/2015 06:43 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >>> ... should note that you'll have to shrink at least one of your volumes, >>> though. The encrypted PV that you create will be slightly smaller than it >>> was, before encryption. As a result, there

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/01/2015 06:29 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/01/2015 03:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Not so. If you have LVM you have to*know* you have LVM, otherwise your >> disk partition names won't make any sense. Just doing a "df" requires >> you to know this and understand what it means. >

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/30/2015 11:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: It's one more layer of abstraction to confuse newer users when things go wrong. In the context of a conversation where LVM provides a means of addressing the OP's requirement (encrypting a system after-the-fact), and where I've outlined numerous concre

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/01/2015 02:57 AM, Tim wrote: Do we have file system recovery tools for it, yet? (Assuming that a problem might occur with LVM, itself, rather than an EXT3 filesystem within it.) pvck and vgck. I believe the answer is "yes". vgck is present in tag v1_00_03, so it's at least 12 years ol

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/01/2015 06:43 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: ... should note that you'll have to shrink at least one of your volumes, though. The encrypted PV that you create will be slightly smaller than it was, before encryption. As a result, there won't be enough extents to move all of the volumes off a

Re: (COMPLETED) Changing systems

2015-12-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 01:02:27PM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Welp, it was as simple as everyone said it would be. > I took out the 2 drives, put them in the other box.  Then I had to > modify the BIOS to reorder the boot order of the drives.  Then last > thing was modifying my router to make su

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/01/2015 03:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Not so. If you have LVM you have to*know* you have LVM, otherwise your disk partition names won't make any sense. Just doing a "df" requires you to know this and understand what it means. Why is understanding the device names, as opposed to un

Re: It's 2015, and OOM handling still sucks

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 December 2015 at 15:19, Neal Becker wrote: > I have a pretty nice workstation, with 8 cores and 32G RAM. > > A stupid little python program just killed it by consuming all the memory, > driving it into swapping hell. > > I couldn't even ssh into it - I started up ssh and went for coffee. On

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:37:15 + James Hogarth wrote: > I pointed you to this: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers > > Have you read it yet? I read it and other documents when I submitted, and then found that there were steps (running rpmlint) that had to

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/01/2015 04:27 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:12:07 +0100 Roberto Ragusa > wrote: > No problem. Thank you. this is very helpful. Btw, isn't the recommended way > to edit grub by changing /etc/defaults/grub and then running grub-mkconfig or > is that for something else? >

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread James Hogarth
On 1 December 2015 at 14:25, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:21:59 +0100 Michael Schwendt > wrote: > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:08:29 +, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > > The if you want to proceed take the following steps: > > > 1. Fix up your bugzilla/FAS accounts > > > > Really d

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:12:07 +0100 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 11/30/2015 11:24 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:59:35 +0100 Roberto Ragusa > > wrote: > > > >> All of this can be done while the system is running > >> normally. > >> Before rebooting, fix your /etc/crypttab and

It's 2015, and OOM handling still sucks

2015-12-01 Thread Neal Becker
I have a pretty nice workstation, with 8 cores and 32G RAM. A stupid little python program just killed it by consuming all the memory, driving it into swapping hell. I couldn't even ssh into it - I started up ssh and went for coffee. On return I still didn't have a prompt. Had to power cycle

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 11/30/2015 11:24 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:59:35 +0100 Roberto Ragusa > wrote: > >> All of this can be done while the system is running >> normally. >> Before rebooting, fix your /etc/crypttab and initramfs >> so you will be asked the passphrase at next boot. > > Can

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 11/30/2015 10:07 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 11/30/2015 01:06 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> You can add a PV to encrypt the system without rebooting. > > ... should note that you'll have to shrink at least one of your volumes, > though. The encrypted PV that you create will be slightly smal

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:21:59 +0100 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:08:29 +, James Hogarth wrote: > > > The if you want to proceed take the following steps: > > 1. Fix up your bugzilla/FAS accounts > > Really do enter your real name in bugzilla and package %changelogs, too, >

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:18:38 +0100 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 05:53:13 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Some time ago, circa May 2015, there was a long thread called "Biting the > > Bullet" [1] where some others complained about the lack of pdftk on F21 and > > later. (This c

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:08:29 +, James Hogarth wrote: > The if you want to proceed take the following steps: > 1. Fix up your bugzilla/FAS accounts Really do enter your real name in bugzilla and package %changelogs, too, and avoid using pseudonyms/aliases even if you find them "cool" or anythin

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 05:53:13 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Some time ago, circa May 2015, there was a long thread called "Biting the > Bullet" [1] where some others complained about the lack of pdftk on F21 and > later. (This complaint also manifested itself sometime later.) > > In response, an

Re: Appending the file modified date to the file name

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 December 2015 at 02:30, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 11/30/2015 04:49 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> You could: >>> mv "$file" "$file-$(stat -c %y "$file")" >> >> >> Not quite as the script: >> >> #!/bin/bash >> for i in `seq 20 42`; >> do >> file="Voice "0${i}.m4a >>

Re: submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread James Hogarth
On 1 December 2015 at 11:53, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > Some time ago, circa May 2015, there was a long thread called "Biting the > Bullet" [1] where some others complained about the lack of pdftk on F21 and > later. (This complaint also manifested itself sometime later.) > > In response, and

submitted RPMs and awaiting action?

2015-12-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, Some time ago, circa May 2015, there was a long thread called "Biting the Bullet" [1] where some others complained about the lack of pdftk on F21 and later. (This complaint also manifested itself sometime later.) In response, and with both general and more specific help from those more ex

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-11-30 at 19:01 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Systems with simple, relatively static storage will, by the same > token, not require users to interact with LVM. > So where is the case for not using it, exactly? Not so. If you have LVM you have to *know* you have LVM, otherwise your di

Re: encrypting /home partition post-install

2015-12-01 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 November 2015, Gordon Messmer sent: > Systems with simple, relatively static storage will, by the same > token, not require users to interact with LVM. So where is the case > for not using it, exactly? Do we have file system recovery tools for it, yet? (Assuming that a