On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 15:07 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
> In the *.desktop file, there is a line that controls the submenu
> placement; it looks like this:
> Categories=Education;Geography;Science;
>
> Howver, in this case OpenJUMP has also become it's own Category.
>
> I would like to eliminate
Tim:
>> Jeez, but that sounds such a crap encumbrance. Even just a log out
>> and log back in again is a severe nuisance. It's beginning to sound
>> a lot like Windows; built for morons, by morons.
Michael Schwendt:
> How do you restart already running processes after an upgrade of
> system libr
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 01:01:36 +
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 16:42 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > If you update libraries a running program uses, it won't get the new
> > libraries until it is restarted since it's already got a copy. In
> > fact, I think any program that s
On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 16:42 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> If you update libraries a running program uses, it won't get the new
> libraries until it is restarted since it's already got a copy. In
> fact, I think any program that starts and wants that updated library
> will get the old version as it's
On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 17:38 -0400, Kevin Cummings wrote:
> > So why does Fedora provide a command called "needs-updating"?
>
> needs-restarting?
Oops, that's the one.
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On 03/25/2015 03:39 PM, Martin Cigorraga wrote:
Hello Richards,
Quite interesting to actually talk to someone who actually has his hands
dirty and can talk about this issue :)
I remember reading a Lennart's post on his blog about a future when
packages will be installing in their own spaces and
On 03/25/2015 03:52 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:
Yes, I know that.*My* response was to another user's question of why
Fedora has a needs-updating program (which you removed), which I could
not find, but I*did* find a needs-restarting program
Ah. It looked to me as though you were simply exp
On 03/25/2015 06:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/25/2015 02:38 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:
>>
>> needs-restarting?
>>
>
> Yes. It's part of yum-utils and will give you a list of every program
> (except the kernel) that needs to be restarted because of an update. starting
> will throw a large number
Hello Richards,
Quite interesting to actually talk to someone who actually has his hands
dirty and can talk about this issue :)
I remember reading a Lennart's post on his blog about a future when
packages will be installing in their own spaces and all of this managed
by systemd. Now my question (
On 03/25/2015 02:38 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote:
needs-restarting?
Yes. It's part of yum-utils and will give you a list of every program
(except the kernel) that needs to be restarted because of an update. It
will throw a large number of spurious errors about not being able to
examine parts
On 03/25/2015 04:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 13:34 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
>> On 25 March 2015 at 13:01, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> Even for updates to running
>>> programs, or the DE itself, rebooting is often not necessary.
>>
>> If you find a reliable ra
you now need "nofail" as an option so the automatic systemd crap will
not stop on a missing fs.
And I have also noticed that once systemd parses the fstab file
changing it won't work, you have to reboot it to get it to figure out
you removed it.
There is probably a way to cancel what systemd is d
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On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 13:34 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 25 March 2015 at 13:01, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Even for updates to running
> > programs, or the DE itself, rebooting is often not necessary.
>
> If you find a reliable race-free way of working out which packages can
> safely be
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:33:24 -0600
Ronal B Morse wrote:
> You might have to update dracut, too.
>
> I'm not sure what the relationship between dracut and RAID configuration
> is. Are RAIDs entered into the initramfs?
I don't know if any raid config info is in there, but it
definitely needs add
On 03/25/2015 11:33 AM, Ronal B Morse wrote:
On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 14:05 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 13:24:01 -0400
Paul Cartwright wrote:
If there is an entry in /etc/fstab for ANY UUID that it can't find, it
won't boot... I have run into that problem MANY times...
I have to
On 03/25/2015 11:05 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 13:24:01 -0400
Paul Cartwright wrote:
If there is an entry in /etc/fstab for ANY UUID that it can't find, it
won't boot... I have run into that problem MANY times...
I have to go in & comment out all entries except / and /home ( ass
Greetings,
After installing F21 on a x64 desktop, I proceeded to also install non-RPM
software.
For these types of software to appear in the menus, there are *.desktop
files in the directory:
/usr/share/applications
The software that I installed is OpenJUMP, a java-based GIS package
somew
On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 14:05 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 13:24:01 -0400
> Paul Cartwright wrote:
>
> > If there is an entry in /etc/fstab for ANY UUID that it can't find, it
> > won't boot... I have run into that problem MANY times...
> > I have to go in & comment out all entrie
On 15-03-25 07:36:08, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 25 March 2015 at 04:22, Tim wrote:
> > Jeez, but that sounds such a crap encumbrance. Even just a log out
> and
> > log back in again is a severe nuisance. It's beginning to sound a
> lot
> > like Windows; built for morons, by morons.
>
> Michael
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 13:24:01 -0400
Paul Cartwright wrote:
> If there is an entry in /etc/fstab for ANY UUID that it can't find, it
> won't boot... I have run into that problem MANY times...
> I have to go in & comment out all entries except / and /home ( assuming
> it can find them), then it boots
Can the linux audio driver configure the audio jacks on an ASUS H971
Plus motherboard? There are three jacks on the bord that are either line
out, line in, mic or front, center, back speakers. I need the latter
configuration and understand that this is driver configured on Windows
platforms. I'm ru
On 03/25/2015 07:26 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I was apparently missing something like the raid1 kernel
> module in the initramfs in my fedora 21 partition, but
> I disabled the mdmonitor service and removed the raid
> filesystem from the /etc/fstab, yet the system still
> could not boot. It spent se
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:06:27 -0700
Rick Stevens wrote:
> The last part of your question implies that you're asking grub to
> predict if some program started at boot time is going to reference that
> RAID or not.
It was well past grub, the kernel was booting up and enumerating all
the disks in ude
On 03/25/2015 04:26 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
I was apparently missing something like the raid1 kernel
module in the initramfs in my fedora 21 partition, but
I disabled the mdmonitor service and removed the raid
filesystem from the /etc/fstab, yet the system still
could not boot. It spent several mi
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 16:30 -0500, anlarye wrote:
> Every hour I get the same notice from a default yum cron job.
>
> /etc/cron.hourly/0yum-hourly.cron:
>
> Not using downloaded repomd.xml because it is older than what we have:
> Current : Thu Mar 19 23:01:22 2015
> Downloaded: Thu Mar 19 1
Hi Jeff,
Thank you for the note. In the future I'll attempt what you wrote; to
remove a package rather than reinstall. I needed to find a solution and
get the systems to the users so I simply used the kdm. I discovered with
kdm that the main display uses #2 (ctrl-alt-F2) and the other consol
On 25 March 2015 at 13:01, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Even for updates to running
> programs, or the DE itself, rebooting is often not necessary.
If you find a reliable race-free way of working out which packages can
safely be updated at runtime, please let me know. Also, any solution
that reli
On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 12:07 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:52:11 +1030, Tim wrote:
>
> > Patrick O'Callaghan:
> > >> So updating any package, no matter how trivial, means rebooting?
> > >> Speaking as someone who has never been a Gnome user, thanks for the
> > >> clarifica
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 17:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/24/2015 05:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > So updating any package, no matter how trivial, means rebooting?
> > Speaking as someone who has never been a Gnome user, thanks for the
> > clarification. KDE certainly does not do this. I d
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 07:42:40 -0500
anlarye wrote:
> Yes just started on the 19th of march
I'd try
rpm -q -f /etc/cron.hourly/0yum-hourly.cron -i
and see if the package that created that file was installed
on the 19th. I certainly don't have that file on my system.
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 16:30 -0500, anlarye wrote:
> > Every hour I get the same notice from a default yum cron job.
> >
> > /etc/cron.hourly/0yum-hourly.cron:
> >
> > Not using downloaded repomd.xml because it i
On 25 March 2015 at 04:22, Tim wrote:
> Jeez, but that sounds such a crap encumbrance. Even just a log out and
> log back in again is a severe nuisance. It's beginning to sound a lot
> like Windows; built for morons, by morons.
Michael is right. Updating online works 99.8% of the time. The 0.1%
I was apparently missing something like the raid1 kernel
module in the initramfs in my fedora 21 partition, but
I disabled the mdmonitor service and removed the raid
filesystem from the /etc/fstab, yet the system still
could not boot. It spent several minutes trying to recognize
the raided disks th
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:52:11 +1030, Tim wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan:
> >> So updating any package, no matter how trivial, means rebooting?
> >> Speaking as someone who has never been a Gnome user, thanks for the
> >> clarification. KDE certainly does not do this. I don't know if any other
> >> DE
On 03/25/2015 12:18 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 17:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> quite frequently I can update packages without restarting anything, so
>> forcing a restart would be overkill.
> Thus far, I can only remember finding Firefox to foul up if you try to
> keep using
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