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2014-12-22 Thread Tim
Going off on a tangent here, so I'm deliberately splitting a thread... On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 10:38 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Run the command: > > man 8 mount > > and see the types available for "-t" option. > > The "general" part of this advice is that: you're using the "mount" > co

running a join.me meeting

2014-12-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Has anyone here used join.me on Fedora? As a participant it is no problem. But to manage the meeting, there is a windows exe that gets downloaded. I had to quickly switch to a windows system for a meeting I had to run today. Has anyone tried this? Does this exe work in WINE? -- users ma

Re: NTP vulnerability

2014-12-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2014 01:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 04:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/14 02:46, Aaron Gray wrote: There are no ntp or ntpd or systemd-timesyncd packages on F20 ! The default time sync package is now chrony. ntp is available in the F20 repos. AFAI

Re: NTP vulnerability

2014-12-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 21:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/22/14 20:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 04:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 12/22/14 02:46, Aaron Gray wrote: > >>> There are no ntp or ntpd or systemd-timesyncd packages on F20 ! > >> The default time sync pa

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread poma
On 22.12.2014 22:18, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > On 12/22/14 22:07, poma wrote: >> Therefore, you no longer need to re/generate an initramfs after building and >> installing patched nouveau. > > Isn't the nouveau module needed in initramfs? If not, why is it put > there in the first place? > >

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/22/14 22:07, poma wrote: Therefore, you no longer need to re/generate an initramfs after building and installing patched nouveau. Isn't the nouveau module needed in initramfs? If not, why is it put there in the first place? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users ma

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread poma
On 22.12.2014 17:52, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > Am 22.12.2014 um 00:11 schrieb poma: >> On 21.12.2014 19:45, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: >>> Am 21.12.2014 um 18:34 schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 21.12.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > I first tried the latest and greatest nouveau driver fr

Re: Congrats on F21. fedup worked great!

2014-12-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/22/14 19:53, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I'd be happier if there were some evidence that the Fedup developers >> were keeping a note of problems. > > Of course that would only come about if the folks having problems would be > so kind as to file bugzillas. I agree that wou

Re: Congrats on F21. fedup worked great!

2014-12-22 Thread Rolf Turner
On 23/12/14 02:35, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/14 19:53, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'd be happier if there were some evidence that the Fedup developers were keeping a note of problems. Of course that would only come about if the folks having problems would be so kind as to file bugzillas. I tried

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread kpschrage
Gesendet von: YOGA TABLET 10 HD+ Am 22.12.2014 20:37 schrieb Heinz Diehl : > > On 22.12.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > > > Heinz, it was you who pointed me to the offending patch: > > http://tinyurl.com/mz4vsr8 > > As far as I can see, the nouveau driver hasn't changed much since then. > > Hmm,

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 22.12.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > Heinz, it was you who pointed me to the offending patch: > http://tinyurl.com/mz4vsr8 > As far as I can see, the nouveau driver hasn't changed much since then. Hmm, I wrote this because it seems to me that reverting this particular commit does work for

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 22.12.2014 um 19:48 schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 22.12.2014, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: I then compiled it for the new kernel, but for me the problem is still there, a noisy fan. I will investigate further... How about finding the first official kernel with the faulty behaviour, bisecting the of

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/22/14 19:48, Heinz Diehl wrote: How about finding the first official kernel with the faulty behaviour, bisecting the offending commit and reporting it to the lkml people? This bugzilla-comment contains a link to the kernel patch that seem to create problems for some of us. The question i

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 22.12.2014 um 19:05 schrieb Rick Stevens: On 12/22/2014 09:58 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 22.12.2014 um 17:52 schrieb Klaus-Peter Schrage: Am 22.12.2014 um 00:11 schrieb poma: On 21.12.2014 19:45, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 21.12.2014 um 18:34 schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 21.12.2014,

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 22.12.2014, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > I then compiled it for the new kernel, but for me the problem is still > there, a noisy fan. I will investigate further... How about finding the first official kernel with the faulty behaviour, bisecting the offending commit and reporting it to the lkml

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/22/14 19:10, Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/22/2014 10:03 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Regarding Nicks question, here I get: $ modinfo nouveau filename: /lib/modules/3.17.7-300.fc21.x86_64/updates/nouveau.ko Which is the file I compiled. I was more interested in the "version:" line, n

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/22/2014 10:03 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 12/22/14 17:52, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: 2. The make process of the nouveau module finished without error, I copied nouveau.ko to /lib/modules/3.17.6-300.fc21.x86_64/updates/ I did exactly this, but did not realize that the kernel had been

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/22/2014 09:58 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 22.12.2014 um 17:52 schrieb Klaus-Peter Schrage: Am 22.12.2014 um 00:11 schrieb poma: On 21.12.2014 19:45, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 21.12.2014 um 18:34 schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 21.12.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: I first tried the

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/22/14 17:52, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: 2. The make process of the nouveau module finished without error, I copied nouveau.ko to /lib/modules/3.17.6-300.fc21.x86_64/updates/ I did exactly this, but did not realize that the kernel had been updated since I started my computer, so after the

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 22.12.2014 um 17:52 schrieb Klaus-Peter Schrage: Am 22.12.2014 um 00:11 schrieb poma: On 21.12.2014 19:45, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 21.12.2014 um 18:34 schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 21.12.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: I first tried the latest and greatest nouveau driver from freedesktop

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/22/2014 08:52 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 22.12.2014 um 00:11 schrieb poma: On 21.12.2014 19:45, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 21.12.2014 um 18:34 schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 21.12.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: I first tried the latest and greatest nouveau driver from freedesktop.

Re: NTP vulnerability

2014-12-22 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/21/14 19:43, Aaron Gray wrote: It should be 4.2.8 now as there are new vulnerabilities ! The following updates was submitted for testing at 2014-12-19. For F19 in updates-testing ntp-4.2.6p5-13.fc19 For F20 in updates-testing ntp-4.2.6p5-19.fc20 For F21 in updates testing ntp-4.2.6p5-2

Re: [OT] Compiling a module for the Fedora kernel

2014-12-22 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 22.12.2014 um 00:11 schrieb poma: On 21.12.2014 19:45, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 21.12.2014 um 18:34 schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 21.12.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: I first tried the latest and greatest nouveau driver from freedesktop.org "as is", but the fan problem remains, so I still

Re: NTP vulnerability

2014-12-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:19:11 -0500 sean darcy wrote: > How do you move to chrony? Disable ntp and enable chrony. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http:

Re: NTP vulnerability

2014-12-22 Thread sean darcy
On 12/22/2014 08:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/14 20:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 04:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/14 02:46, Aaron Gray wrote: There are no ntp or ntpd or systemd-timesyncd packages on F20 ! The default time sync package is now chrony. ntp i

Re: Congrats on F21. fedup worked great!

2014-12-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/14 19:53, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'd be happier if there were some evidence that the Fedup developers > were keeping a note of problems. Of course that would only come about if the folks having problems would be so kind as to file bugzillas. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others

Re: NTP vulnerability

2014-12-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/14 20:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 04:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 12/22/14 02:46, Aaron Gray wrote: >>> There are no ntp or ntpd or systemd-timesyncd packages on F20 ! >> The default time sync package is now chrony. >> >> ntp is available in the F20 repos. >

Re: name of file system : "unknown filesystem type 'FAT32"

2014-12-22 Thread Angelo Moreschini
OK.. thank you On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Angelo Moreschini < > mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Joachim, >> >> "-t vfat" worked... [?] >> >> >> [angelo_user@zorro ~]$ sudo mount --type vfat /dev/sde1 /media/tmp_USB1 >>

Re: NTP vulnerability

2014-12-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 04:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/22/14 02:46, Aaron Gray wrote: > > There are no ntp or ntpd or systemd-timesyncd packages on F20 ! > > The default time sync package is now chrony. > > ntp is available in the F20 repos. > AFAIK chrony still connects to NTP servers, h

Re: Congrats on F21. fedup worked great!

2014-12-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tony Camuso wrote: > Updated from F20 to F21 on two systems, one a VM, the other > bare metal. Used nonproduct to accommodate customizations. I had a moderate experience with Fedup on two Thinkpad laptops. One (T510) worked perfectly, except that I could not turn off the touchpad, until told tha

Congrats on F21. fedup worked great!

2014-12-22 Thread Tony Camuso
Updated from F20 to F21 on two systems, one a VM, the other bare metal. Used nonproduct to accommodate customizations. Had zero problems. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users F

Re: SLiM dependency on xterm?

2014-12-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/21/2014 06:51 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Sorry, I do not understand the question: SLiM is a simple login manager. I like it, but I don't quite see why it needs to bring in the dependency on xterm. You should probably