Re: Xfce and the windows key

Allegedly, on or about 11 December 2014, Bill Davidsen sent: > Note that there is neither man page nor /usr/share/doc descriping it, > and "-?" "-h" and "--help" all fail to generate useful guidance. Why > is an undocumented executable included in fc21 at all? Wasn't there a distro that made havi

Re: OT - Probably the most important shortcut to disable - Firefox quit

Allegedly, on or about 11 December 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > Preferences->General->Startup->When Firefox starts: Show my windows > and tabs from last time Be aware though, if you have two windows open, close one *then* the other, as opposed to a complete quit at once, then a restart only o

Re: fedup - luks encrypted system

On 12/11/2014 06:21 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: We're talking about fedup doing its thing after rebooting into the upgrade kernel. It appears that the sysrq is enabled in the upgrade kernel, and I do believe that I accurately explained that sysrq did produce a response; unfortunately the response

Re: Fedora 21 64bit ram usage

Allegedly, on or about 11 December 2014, kc8...@ohioham.com sent: > I look at Linux mint for a few untill 21 came out and the desk top > with nothing running it only uses about 600mg of ram . And when I was > using ver 20 with the older ver of gnome desktop installed it used > about 650 mg of ram

Re: F21 server and vesa

Hi, yum install -y @base-x solved it Thanks. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 20:49:35 +0200 > Kevin Wilson wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I installed F21 server, x86_64. >> >> Now, as expected from a server, it does not contain kde or gnome. >> >> I know tha

Garbage on screen with F20 & F21 - ATI free drivers

Hi! I got a garbaged screen since a big xorg update about 3 weeks agoon F20. I usually don't complain as problems tend to get fixed very fast. Though this one didn't and I decided to upgrade to F21...to notice the problem is there too. I haven't found any recent bug describing the issue and was th

Re: Rpmfusion

Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:02:43 +0100 Bob Marcan kirjoitti: > It is available now. > Noticed, thanks. But upgraded with pgpcheck. That didn't work.. Jarmo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: fedup - luks encrypted system

Joe Zeff writes: On 12/11/2014 03:30 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I forgot about reboot -f. sysrq+s did not do anything; sysrq+u made the entire console output from the entire installation process, from start to finish, scroll through the console at warp speed, looping 3-4 times, which was highly

Re: OT - Probably the most important shortcut to disable - Firefox quit

On 12/11/2014 06:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2014-12-11 at 17:47 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: ARGH!!! I had 15 Firefox windows open, many with 6 - 10 tabs. And instead of hitting to close a tab, I fat fingered What a mess of lost work set up. All that stuff I was bouncing

fedora 21 and xen

Hi all, 2 part question. Just installed f21. I like the way the distro has a common base and "flavors" that build on that. Nice approach. yum also seems to be *much* faster. 1) Does anybody know where the standalone xen packages are? 2) Is there a virtualization group or is that what the

Re: Fedup 20 to 21 - Gnome fails to start

Hi On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM, < wrote: > I used fedup to move from F20 to F21 on two PCs. Both have Asus EN210 > Nvidia graphics cards. In both cases, starting gnome would result in an > error which reads " a problem has occured and the system can't recover." I > reinstalled the akmod nvidi

Fedup 20 to 21 - Gnome fails to start

I used fedup to move from F20 to F21 on two PCs. Both have Asus EN210 Nvidia graphics cards. In both cases, starting gnome would result in an error which reads " a problem has occured and the system can't recover." I reinstalled the akmod nvidia driver on the PC with an EN210 1GB card, and, voi

fedup: WiFi failure

After updating Fedora-20/KDE to Fedora-21 on my ThinkPad-T61 with fedup, I find that WiFi is no longer working. The WiFi card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 . It seems that the kernel-modules package was not updated by fedup, although this is not metioned in /var/log/fedup.log . After yum-

Re: OT - Probably the most important shortcut to disable - Firefox quit

On Thu, 2014-12-11 at 17:47 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > ARGH!!! > > I had 15 Firefox windows open, many with 6 - 10 tabs. > > And instead of hitting to close a tab, I fat fingered > > What a mess of lost work set up. All that stuff I was bouncing around > on multiple subjects. > > So b

Re: fedup - luks encrypted system

On 12/11/2014 03:30 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I forgot about reboot -f. sysrq+s did not do anything; sysrq+u made the entire console output from the entire installation process, from start to finish, scroll through the console at warp speed, looping 3-4 times, which was highly amusing to watch;

Re: fedup - luks encrypted system

Chris Murphy writes: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Michael Morgan mmor...@dca.net> wrote: I ran into a hang like BZ 1160079 while upgrading from F20 on a similar setup yesterday. I didn't have any issues with disk space but the reboot did get stuck on the L

Re: F21 server and vesa

On Thu, 2014-12-11 at 20:49 +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > > I installed F21 server, x86_64. > > Now, as expected from a server, it does not contain kde or gnome. > > I know that server usually does not need to run XWindows applications. > However, I need from time to time to use xwindows

OT - Probably the most important shortcut to disable - Firefox quit

ARGH!!! I had 15 Firefox windows open, many with 6 - 10 tabs. And instead of hitting to close a tab, I fat fingered What a mess of lost work set up. All that stuff I was bouncing around on multiple subjects. So burned, I did a search and found: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/ad

Re: Raid 1 and Anaconda -

On 12/11/14 15:28, Chris Murphy wrote: Well, you need to get it installed first. So you have to work around the error message. Not knowing what the error message is or why the installer is confused, if I assume it's because of something about one or both of the layouts on the two 750G driv

Re: why does distro-sync find packages to downgrade after fedup

On 12/12/14 05:36, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Sure, but my question is why does fedup not take care of this downgrade and > replace with the F21 packages? Because "fedup" is not meant to be "distro-sync". It looks for packages to be "upgraded" to the highest version available for the requested rele

Re: Fedora 21 64bit ram usage

kc8...@ohioham.com wrote: I installed 21 yesterday and I seen that I was using 1.5 g of ram. I didn't have anything running but the os it self I have a Dell I7 3.9 g and 8 g of ram . Has anyone else ham this problem and no how to fix it . When I opened my mail and open Firefox I go up to 3.6g of

Re: why does distro-sync find packages to downgrade after fedup

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:10:21 + Andre Robatino wrote: > Ranjan Maitra inbox.com> writes: > > > Why does this happen? > > Searching for those packages on https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates it > looks like those packages were pushed to stable updates on F20 before F21. Sure, but my que

Re: Xfce and the windows key

Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/11/2014 02:44 PM, poma wrote: On 11.12.2014 19:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On F21 I have not found anything in the Xfce keyboard shortcut on using the windows keys. The menu button seems to be working ok. The windows start button does not seem to do anything.

Re: why does distro-sync find packages to downgrade after fedup

Ranjan Maitra inbox.com> writes: > Why does this happen? Searching for those packages on https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates it looks like those packages were pushed to stable updates on F20 before F21. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Re: Xfce and the windows key

On 12/11/2014 02:44 PM, poma wrote: On 11.12.2014 19:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On F21 I have not found anything in the Xfce keyboard shortcut on using the windows keys. The menu button seems to be working ok. The windows start button does not seem to do anything. I would think it would br

Re: Raid 1 and Anaconda -

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA < bobgood...@wildblue.net> wrote: > > Unfortunately Fedora 21 Server install would not go beyond the screen > requiring selection of US English. At that point it gave an error message, > gray text on an off white background which

Re: Latest systemd news

Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/15/2014 08:27 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I've always called systemd the world's fist computer fungus - it wants to grow over everything. Resistance is futile! Your functionality will be assimilated. Or in this case approximated. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear f

Re: Fedora 21 64bit ram usage

What it is I look at Linux mint for a few untill 21 came out and the desk top with nothing running it only uses about 600mg of ram . And when I was using ver 20 with the older ver of gnome desktop installed it used about 650 mg of ram Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Matthew M

Re: Latest systemd news

Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Sam Varshavchik said: Making the rounds of various technical mailing lists yesterday, with a subject that's typically a variation of "Just for yucks, and giggles" is a link to a commit to systemd's git, adding DNS caching to systemd; in one, huge 857 line gl

Re: F21 server and vesa

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 20:49:35 +0200 Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > > I installed F21 server, x86_64. > > Now, as expected from a server, it does not contain kde or gnome. > > I know that server usually does not need to run XWindows applications. > However, I need from time to time to use xwindo

Re: Xfce and the windows key

On 11.12.2014 19:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On F21 > > I have not found anything in the Xfce keyboard shortcut on using the > windows keys. > > The menu button seems to be working ok. > > The windows start button does not seem to do anything. I would think it > would bring down the applica

Re: F21 server and vesa

On 11.12.2014 19:49, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > > I installed F21 server, x86_64. > > Now, as expected from a server, it does not contain kde or gnome. > > I know that server usually does not need to run XWindows applications. > However, I need from time to time to use xwindows applications

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

On 11.12.2014 16:55, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:11:05 +0100 > poma wrote: >> On 11.12.2014 14:15, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:17:14 +0200 >>> Angelo Moreschini wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Wed, 1

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

On 11.12.2014 17:18, Angelo Moreschini wrote: ... > of course I try to understand ... > actually the problem could be connected to the SW (the interface) for using > the DVI, that doesn't works (that says poma).. This is only and only *your* conclusion, man. My question was: why is not used DVI.

F21 server and vesa

Hello, I installed F21 server, x86_64. Now, as expected from a server, it does not contain kde or gnome. I know that server usually does not need to run XWindows applications. However, I need from time to time to use xwindows applications on the server, like some monitoring tools (wireshark and

Re: Xfce and the windows key

On 12/11/14, 13:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On F21 I have not found anything in the Xfce keyboard shortcut on using the windows keys. The menu button seems to be working ok. The windows start button does not seem to do anything. I would think it would bring down the applications menu, but

Xfce and the windows key

On F21 I have not found anything in the Xfce keyboard shortcut on using the windows keys. The menu button seems to be working ok. The windows start button does not seem to do anything. I would think it would bring down the applications menu, but it doesn't. The start button + P does bring

Re: R in F21 older than in F19

On 11.12.2014, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Typical case of an update race. Ok, thanks! Have already compiled from the official source. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora

Re: R in F21 older than in F19

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:51:01 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: > Hi, > > installed one machine with F21 today. One of the programs I'm using > most is the statistical software R. What's weird is that on F19, R is > in the version 3.1.2, while the 2 releases newer F21 has version > 3.1.1. > > Does anybod

Re: Raid 1 and Anaconda -

On 12/10/14 21:05, Chris Murphy wrote: I set the disks up with fdisk but have not created any files on the assumption that the installer should do that, perhaps I am wrong? Nope, either the installer creates the partitions+mdadm metadata (i.e. creates the raid set), or it will use a

R in F21 older than in F19

Hi, installed one machine with F21 today. One of the programs I'm using most is the statistical software R. What's weird is that on F19, R is in the version 3.1.2, while the 2 releases newer F21 has version 3.1.1. Does anybody know what's going on here? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorap

Re: after upgrade 20->21 gnome crashes when using rpmfusion's kmod-nvidia

On 12/11/2014 06:45 AM, Jouk Jansen wrote: Does anybody know or point me in the direction of a solution? Follow the instructions here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752 Don't worry about the way it refers only to old versions of Fedora; it's been kept up-to-date and work

Re: So what went wrong, exactly?

On 12/11/2014 11:46 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 11 December 2014 at 18:43, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 11 December 201

Re: So what went wrong, exactly?

On 11 December 2014 at 18:43, Ahmad Samir wrote: > > On 11 December 2014 at 17:35, Paul Cartwright > wrote: > >> On 12/11/2014 10:31 AM, poma wrote: >> > On 11.12.2014 16:01, Ahmad Samir wrote: >> > >> >> With X in F21 there's no /var/log/Xorg*log any more so to get the X >> log: >> > And what i

Re: So what went wrong, exactly?

On 11 December 2014 at 17:35, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 12/11/2014 10:31 AM, poma wrote: > > On 11.12.2014 16:01, Ahmad Samir wrote: > > > >> With X in F21 there's no /var/log/Xorg*log any more so to get the X log: > > And what is this, mister journalctl? > > > > $ grep kernel /var/log/Xorg.0.l

Re: So what went wrong, exactly?

On 12/11/2014 10:57 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:35:40 -0500 > Paul Cartwright wrote: > >> excuse me?? >> [root@localhost log]# ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77799 Dec 11 07:44 /var/log/Xorg.0.log >> [root@localhost log]# cat /etc/fedora-release >> Fedora r

Re: [SOLVED]Re: Network problem. Is this a fedora issue?

On 12/11/2014 10:56 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, Tim wrote: > >> On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 15:06 +, Bill Oliver wrote: >>> Over the past few weeks, basically since I moved to Fedora21, there >>> are extended periods where I simply cannot get to web pages using >>> http. Things wil

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

Thank you Marko, of course I try to understand ... actually the problem could be connected to the SW (the interface) for using the DVI, that doesn't works (that says poma).. We are looking to reinstall nvidia that supplies this interface... That is right ? I made what you suggested : 1. yum rem

Re: Rpmfusion

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:47:30 +0200 jarmo wrote: > Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:55:50 +0100 > Michael Schwendt kirjoitti: > > > > What error/problem do you see? Anything with their own mirror manager? > > The repo tree for '21' is available, at least: > > I get no more mirrors available... And looking

Re: So what went wrong, exactly?

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:35:40 -0500 Paul Cartwright wrote: > excuse me?? > [root@localhost log]# ls -l /var/log/Xorg.0.log > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77799 Dec 11 07:44 /var/log/Xorg.0.log > [root@localhost log]# cat /etc/fedora-release > Fedora release 21 (Twenty One) Yep, but that only shows up *

[SOLVED]Re: Network problem. Is this a fedora issue?

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 15:06 +, Bill Oliver wrote: Over the past few weeks, basically since I moved to Fedora21, there are extended periods where I simply cannot get to web pages using http. Things will work fine for hours, and then stop for hours, and then c

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:11:05 +0100 poma wrote: > On 11.12.2014 14:15, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:17:14 +0200 > > Angelo Moreschini wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Marko Vojinovic > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:18:10 +0200 > >>> Angelo Moreschini

Re: So what went wrong, exactly?

On 12/11/2014 10:31 AM, poma wrote: > On 11.12.2014 16:01, Ahmad Samir wrote: > >> With X in F21 there's no /var/log/Xorg*log any more so to get the X log: > And what is this, mister journalctl? > > $ grep kernel /var/log/Xorg.0.log > [ 14509.022] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.17.4-301

Re: pdftk

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:08:54 +0100 Marco Guazzone wrote: > > > > Regrettably it's a slightly modified AGPL and, though IANAL, it looks > > like the problematic additional restriction is still there: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2011-June/001656.html > > > > Which is a pity

Re: why does distro-sync find packages to downgrade after fedup

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 04:00:29 + Andre Robatino wrote: > Ranjan Maitra inbox.com> writes: > > > On a system not fed up from fedup -- not the one that is hosed for now -- > I do the following: > > > > sudo yum --releasever=21 distro-sync > > > > Dependencies Resolved > > > > >

Re: So what went wrong, exactly?

On 11.12.2014 16:01, Ahmad Samir wrote: > With X in F21 there's no /var/log/Xorg*log any more so to get the X log: And what is this, mister journalctl? $ grep kernel /var/log/Xorg.0.log [ 14509.022] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.17.4-301.fc21.x86_64 root=UUID=... initrd=/initramfs-

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

On 11.12.2014 14:15, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:17:14 +0200 > Angelo Moreschini wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Marko Vojinovic >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:18:10 +0200 >>> Angelo Moreschini wrote: I made all you suggested : yum locali

Re: So what went wrong, exactly?

On 11 December 2014 at 15:44, Tom Horsley wrote: > When I installed fedora 21 alpha a while back, I was able > to get my nvidia GTX 750 Ti to work fairly well with binary > drivers from rpmfusion. > > I've just re-installed 21 from the workstation live iso, > and all I can get with a fresh instal

after upgrade 20->21 gnome crashes when using rpmfusion's kmod-nvidia

Hi All I upgraded my systems from 20 to 21 using FEDUP. On one of these systems I did into problems when using kmod-nvidia from rpmfusion. Just after the upgrade boot did hang just before starting the gnome display manager (so no login screen). After removing all the kmod-nvidia's the machine boo

Re: pdftk

> > Regrettably it's a slightly modified AGPL and, though IANAL, it looks > like the problematic additional restriction is still there: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2011-June/001656.html > > Which is a pity, because I used to like pdftk and have been missing it > since it was d

So what went wrong, exactly?

When I installed fedora 21 alpha a while back, I was able to get my nvidia GTX 750 Ti to work fairly well with binary drivers from rpmfusion. I've just re-installed 21 from the workstation live iso, and all I can get with a fresh install is the screen that says "Oh no something has gone wrong!".

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:17:14 +0200 Angelo Moreschini wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Marko Vojinovic > wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:18:10 +0200 > > Angelo Moreschini wrote: > > > > > > I made all you suggested : > > >yum localinstall --nogpgcheck > > >yum install k

Re: Fedora 21 64bit ram usage

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 02:52:33PM -0500, kc8...@ohioham.com wrote: > I installed 21 yesterday and I seen that I was using 1.5 g of ram. I > didn't have anything running but the os it self I have a Dell I7 3.9 > g and 8 g of ram . Has anyone else ham this problem and no how to fix > it . When I ope

Re: pdftk

On 11 December 2014 at 10:59, Jon Ingason wrote: > Den 2014-12-11 05:08, Paul Allen Newell skrev: >> >> On 12/10/2014 08:02 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:49:55 -0800 Paul Allen Newell >>> wrote: >>> On 12/10/2014 04:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014

Re: pdftk

Den 2014-12-11 05:08, Paul Allen Newell skrev: > > On 12/10/2014 08:02 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:49:55 -0800 Paul Allen Newell >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/10/2014 04:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:55:10 -0500 Matthew Miller wrote: > On W

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

On 11.12.2014 10:42, Angelo Moreschini wrote: > Hi poma, > > thak you for the advice ("fpast.org"). > > > I'm not familiar with video cards ... > > In the control panel (of Windows) it is displayed (in Display adapters > section) : NVIDIA GeForce 7100 GS > (which probably is

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

Hi poma, thak you for the advice ("fpast.org"). I'm not familiar with video cards ... In the control panel (of Windows) it is displayed (in Display adapters section) : NVIDIA GeForce 7100 GS (which probably is equivalent to - NV44 - GeForce 7100 GS - MSI). I can say that, i

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

On 11.12.2014 10:17, poma wrote: > > This could be relevant > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202#c49 > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-session/tree/data/hardware-compatibility?h=gnome-3-10 > > Regarding IDs, [24.401] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:016a:1462:0273 rev 161, Mem @

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

This could be relevant https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202#c49 https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-session/tree/data/hardware-compatibility?h=gnome-3-10 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

On 11.12.2014 08:17, Angelo Moreschini wrote: ... > [24.502] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 connected > [24.502] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DVI-I-1 disconnected > [24.502] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output TV-1 connected ... Señor Zorro, you can paste the logs here http://fpaste.org What about DVI-