On 09/07/14 20:50, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 07/09/2014 12:54 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
it's actually a symlink installed by the alternatives system:
Aargh! I never thought of that possibility.
/me has flashbacks to hours of frustration trying to install javaws
note that acpica-tools has an virtu
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
>
>
> http://askbot.org/en/question/12569/html-formatting-not-provided-in-rss-feed/?comment=12574#comment-12574
>
Sure. There are a number of enhancements we need from askbot. If anyone is
interested in Django/Python programming, your
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Carl Bennett wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Just trying to get this to have more visibility:
>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/67392/fedora
>
>
> Not opposed to it but http://ask.fedoraproject.org
On Jul 9, 2014, at 8:20 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> would suggest that the misunderstanding is on your part instead as noted in
> another reply. However even if it weren't true, we all get bug reports
> closed from time to time with a resolution different from what we want. The
> right app
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, lee wrote:
> I made a bug report suggesting to fix their misunderstanding of what
> "disabled" means. It would have been very easy to fix, but they
> declined.
>
> Why should I make any further bug reports about systemd when they don't
> want to even fix impo
On 09.07.2014 22:28, Mickey wrote:
F20 / KDE
Trying to run acroread in AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm and it won't
start.
...
Duplicating a thread will get you nowhere.
Perhaps you missed, in the original thread, one important fact provided by the
software producer itself,
https://lists.fe
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Carl Bennett wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Just trying to get this to have more visibility:
> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/67392/fedora
>
Not opposed to it but http://ask.fedoraproject.org provides a similar site
already
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On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:23 PM, lee wrote:
> Then they should do it again.
>
That is a Debian maintainers decision.
> That doesn't mean that users shouldn't get to vote.
It just means voting isn't how distribution choose system components.
> Switching to something
> because there is no
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:08 PM, lee wrote:
>
>
> That is irrelevant.
How? The fact that dynamically started services can only directly be
controlled by systemd in a systematic manner is directly relevant. It
explains the real difference between disabled and mask.
> I don't know what yo
"R. G. Newbury" writes:
> So 'masked' is actually NEVER NOT EVEN WHEN YOU WANT IT. and DISABLED
> means SOMETIMES,
They confuse "masked" with "disabled" and "disabled" with "ondemand" and
deny to fix that.
> This thread contains numerous instances of why systemd is not well
> architected, altho
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:19 AM, lee wrote:
>
>> The bug --- or call it misstatement if you like --- is with systemd in
>> that things can still be started even when they are disabled.
>>
>
> Err. no. Before systemd, the equivalent of mask simply didn't exist
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> If there are concrete criticisms, they should ideally be in the form
> of bug reports to reach the developers directly.
I made a bug report suggesting to fix their misunderstanding of what
"disabled" means. It would have been very easy to fix, but they
declined.
Why sh
Ed Greshko writes:
> On 07/09/14 22:57, lee wrote:
>> Ed Greshko writes:
>>
>>> On 07/09/14 19:41, lee wrote:
what is an "ll header"?
I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
think that they are not created on my side. Yet the "ll header" migh
Mickey writes:
> F20 / KDE
>
> Trying to run acroread in AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm and it
> won't start.
>
> I have run Strace on acroread and listed the last few lines of the Output,
To be curious, doesn't that violate the license it comes with?
> Could someone tell me what it all mean
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:03 AM, lee wrote:
>
>> Apparently the project secretary has a hand in it, and sponsors are
>> needed. So maybe it's not as easy as it seems.
>>
>
> It is fairly easy to bring any proposal to vote. Debian has done it
> numerous times.
Adrian Sevcenco writes:
> These are completely unrelated terms. in services start language
> "enabled" means "start at boot" and disabled "do not start at boot" ..
> and that's all ..
If you want to see it this way, then systemd misunderstands things so
that "disabled" means to start something e
Ian Malone writes:
> On 8 July 2014 22:33, lee wrote:
>> Ian Malone writes:
>>
>>> By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
>>> you open the potential for exploits.
>>
>> How would that happen? A file system is either mounted or not, or is
>> it?
>
> I think I was
Hey,
Just trying to get this to have more visibility:
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/67392/fedora
I think it could definitely benefit Fedora users and enthusiasts as a
whole. It would be helpful to have a Q&A on Stack Exchange for Fedora
specifically so that Fedora-specific questions c
On 07/10/14 06:51, Rick Walker wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm still working on my problem with hundreds of zombie dbus-daemons. I
> guess it isn't that common of an issue.
>
> After some investigation, I have found that the main culprit seems to be
> konsole(1). I mostly use my system in command-line
Rick Walker writes:
Hi all,
I'm still working on my problem with hundreds of zombie dbus-daemons. I
guess it isn't that common of an issue.
For some reason, creating a konsole forks a dbus-daemon (like this
output from ps -ef):
walker 12859 1 0 Jul08 ?00:00:00
/bi
Hi all,
I'm still working on my problem with hundreds of zombie dbus-daemons. I
guess it isn't that common of an issue.
After some investigation, I have found that the main culprit seems to be
konsole(1). I mostly use my system in command-line mode and am
constantly creating and killing konso
On 07/09/14 22:57, lee wrote:
> Ed Greshko writes:
>
>> On 07/09/14 19:41, lee wrote:
>>> what is an "ll header"?
>>>
>>> I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
>>> think that they are not created on my side. Yet the "ll header" might
>>> contain some useful info
On 9 Jul 2014 at 22:52, DB wrote:
Date sent: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 22:52:47 +0200
From: DB
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject:Re: Question for Fedora users of Garmin nuvi GPS
Send reply to: freddog...@yahoo.co.uk,
On 07/09/2014 04:58 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Subject:
Re: Question for Fedora users of Garmin nuvi GPS
From:
Patrick O'Callaghan
Date:
Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:26:05 +0100
To:
users@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 21:32 -0500, Steven Ulrick wrote:
>Hello, Eve
F20 / KDE
Trying to run acroread in AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm and it won't
start.
I have run Strace on acroread and listed the last few lines of the Output,
Could someone tell me what it all means ?
clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {144535, 396423014}) = 0
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {
On 07/09/2014 12:54 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
> it's actually a symlink installed by the alternatives system:
Aargh! I never thought of that possibility.
/me has flashbacks to hours of frustration trying to install javaws
> note that acpica-tools has an virtual provides acpidump, so just 'yum
> pr
Please review https://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct (also linked in the
signature of every message on this list).
I think there may be some constructive messages in that thread, but there's
also a lot of trolling and quite a bit of back and forth rehashing the same
thing. This does not contrib
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 07:24:41PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> VMware have some rather nice "lab" software that lets you recreate
> groups of virtual machines instantly. I think it's designed for
> creating repeatable test environments. The name of this escapes me
> (and internet searches)
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 03:14:44PM +0200, Pal, Laszlo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to create some virtual exam environment and maybe
> kvm/qemu/virsh can do the job.
>
> This environment should consists several virtual machines (linux +
> windows) and several virtual networks. This is not a big dea
On 09/07/14 18:58, Ian Pilcher wrote:
I just had an odd experience trying to use 'yum provides' to find the
acpidump command:
[pilcher@ian ~]$ sudo yum provides '*/acpidump'
Loaded plugins: langpacks, show-leaves
fedora/20/x86_64/metalink|
1
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Tom H wrote:
> You might not need to use all of the systemd tools but its tools
> aren't independent.
That is similar to how optional features are handled in many collections.
If you use some features, they might pull in other requirements but the
features t
Oh boy do I ever have this problem.
I hadn't noticed before but since you mentioned threads I've noticed
that what I see is entirely dependent on a thread being collapsed.
If all threads are expanded I can move up and down in the message list
without trouble.
If a thread is collapsed, then movin
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>
>> Systemd is now engulfing practically all of linux. A bug in one
>> piece can make dozens of other things fail, and it is so large
>> and complex that there *will* be bugs in pieces of
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 01:15:53PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 12:43:57 -0400
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
> > This isn't the case. systemd isn't monolithic. it is a collection of
> > tools with a shared codebase where most of the tools are optional.
>
> Its a collection of tool
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 12:43:57 -0400
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> This isn't the case. systemd isn't monolithic. it is a collection of
> tools with a shared codebase where most of the tools are optional.
Its a collection of tools, all of which talk to an ever increasing
monolithic systemd daemon which
I just had an odd experience trying to use 'yum provides' to find the
acpidump command:
> [pilcher@ian ~]$ sudo yum provides '*/acpidump'
> Loaded plugins: langpacks, show-leaves
> fedora/20/x86_64/metalink
> | 18 kB 00:00:00
> fedora-Hand
On 07/08/2014 01:33 PM, JD issued this missive:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Rick Stevens mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote:
On 07/08/2014 11:51 AM, JD issued this missive:
Well, I would like to see a fully open source and secure
SIP app like skype.
Wow, JD. A sim
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 11:57:26 -0400
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
> > if anyone is pushing for alternatives,
> > they should understand that systemd isn't just a init system
>
> Which is, of course, the primary thing that is wrong with it :-).
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 11:57:26 -0400
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> if anyone is pushing for alternatives,
> they should understand that systemd isn't just a init system
Which is, of course, the primary thing that is wrong with it :-).
Unix/linux grew successfully for years by dividing things into
small i
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Tom Rivers wrote:
> On 7/9/2014 09:57, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>> Sure but if you want to go against the consensus, you will have to do
>> something more concrete.
>>
>
> That is precisely why I challenged your assertion that the value of
> systemd was because
On 07/09/2014 05:51 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> On 09/07/14 05:35 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> On 7 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 00:36:37 -0700 From: Joe Zeff
> On 07/08/2014 11:40 PM, lee wrote:
>>> >When something is disguised or hidden, it is not disabled. It is
>>> >camouflaged
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:21:55 +0200
poma wrote:
>
> "startxfce4 harmonization with the systemd-logind"
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1117682
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=916668
>
> As explained here,
> "gphoto2 only as root -"
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/
On 07/09/2014 02:38 PM, poma wrote:
On 08.07.2014 16:46, g wrote:
excuse me poma, tho _slightly_ off topic as you say, i would like
to add this:
...
:)
at least it is a ferrite and not fedorite,
you old g-fox.
lsfhif. :-D
--
peace out.
in a world with out fences, who needs gates.
tc.
Ed Greshko writes:
> On 07/09/14 19:41, lee wrote:
>> what is an "ll header"?
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
>> think that they are not created on my side. Yet the "ll header" might
>> contain some useful information if I knew exactly how to interp
On 7/9/2014 09:57, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Sure but if you want to go against the consensus, you will have to do
something more concrete.
That is precisely why I challenged your assertion that the value of
systemd was because everyone was adopting it. The reason you gave for
dismissing all of
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 11:36:06AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> > On Thursday, DNF version 0.5.3 was announced, along with Core DNF
> > Plugins 0.1.1, which contains a new protected_packages plugin. So,
> > there we go.
> I'm guessing this is equivalent to the protect-packages plugin for Yum?
> I wou
On 09/07/14 05:35 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 7 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 00:36:37 -0700 From: Joe Zeff
On 07/08/2014 11:40 PM, lee wrote:
>When something is disguised or hidden, it is not disabled. It is
>camouflaged or concealed. Camouflage, concealment, hiding, disguise
On 07/09/2014 09:44 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
On 8 Jul 2014 21:32:43 -0500, Steven Ulrick wrote
I know that I can just go drive to a computer that has Windows
installed on it and get this over with, but I shouldn't have to do
that ...
If they would just let me/us manually download and instal
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Tom Rivers wrote:
> With respect, just because there is consensus among governing entities
> doesn't necessarily mean that the decision is good for everyone. Consensus
> != Fact. History is replete with examples.
>
Sure but if you want to go against the cons
Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2014, David Benfell sent:
> This is another terminology issue, which I think should be viewed
> separately from the merits/demerits of systemd itself. And I'm
> inclined to agree that the terms are poorly chosen.
If it'd been my choice, disabled would have meant e
On 7/9/2014 07:12, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
All major distributions at this point have switched to systemd or in
the process of doing so which should tell you the value of it.
With respect, just because there is consensus among governing entities
doesn't necessarily mean that the decision is good
On 8 Jul 2014 21:32:43 -0500, Steven Ulrick wrote
I know that I can just go drive to a computer that has Windows
installed on it and get this over with, but I shouldn't have to do that ...
If they would just let me/us manually download and install updates, I
wouldn't care if I can't use their
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 21:32 -0500, Steven Ulrick wrote:
> Hello, Everyone
> I know that I can just go drive to a computer that has Windows
> installed on it and get this over with, but I shouldn't have to do
> that...
> I have new Garmin nuvi65LM GPS and of course the "GarminExpress"
> updating pro
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:19 AM, lee wrote:
> The bug --- or call it misstatement if you like --- is with systemd in
> that things can still be started even when they are disabled.
>
Err. no. Before systemd, the equivalent of mask simply didn't exist and
there was no systematic way to dis
Wed, 09 Jul 2014 11:32:32 +0800
Ed Greshko kirjoitti:
> If you have, or create, a $HOME/.xinitrc containing
>
> exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4
>
> Then startx will launch xfce.
>
> You will then find that a USB drive will mount on a double-click of
> the
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 09:49 +1000, Norman Gaywood wrote:
> On 7 July 2014 08:34, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 13:01 -0700, David Benfell wrote:
> >> *What*, for example, is "the usual meaning" of "file system objects?"
> >> A
> >> file? Why not just say "file?" And if the d
On 07/09/14 19:41, lee wrote:
> what is an "ll header"?
>
> I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
> think that they are not created on my side. Yet the "ll header" might
> contain some useful information if I knew exactly how to interpret that
> information.
ll
On 07/09/2014 02:12 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi all,
I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
mouse pointer over them (without c
Joe Zeff writes:
> On 07/08/2014 11:40 PM, lee wrote:
>> When something is disguised or hidden, it is not disabled. It is
>> camouflaged or concealed. Camouflage, concealment, hiding, disguise and
>> masking can all be used for*preventing* from being disabled.
>
> No. When a service is disabl
David Benfell writes:
> I guess the two questions I'm reaching for are:
>
> 1) Is systemd conceptually broken, just a really bad idea from the
> start? Some people say yes, and some of them argue well.
So far, I've seen only arguments that would support that systemd is a
really bad idea because
Hi,
what is an "ll header"?
I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
think that they are not created on my side. Yet the "ll header" might
contain some useful information if I knew exactly how to interpret that
information.
--
Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug)
--
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:03 AM, lee wrote:
> Apparently the project secretary has a hand in it, and sponsors are
> needed. So maybe it's not as easy as it seems.
>
It is fairly easy to bring any proposal to vote. Debian has done it
numerous times.
>
> Too bad that the users never get to
On 07/09/2014 12:29 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 12:28 PM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 12:23, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09
On 07/09/2014 12:28 PM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 12:23, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote:
>>> On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 12:23, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi all,
I'
On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
>>> On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'M running t
You can also play around with 'layers.acceleration.*', and moglich
'gfx.xrender.enabled'
in Prefs/Adv/Conf Ed.
No guarantee. ;)
poma
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On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi all,
I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
but not alwa
On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
>>> On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi all,
I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
but not always) having problems w
lee writes:
David Benfell writes:
Why should it be seen separately? Poorly chosen terms is a feature of
systemd like any other it may have, and this feature leads straightaway
to unexpected and undesired results when used. That the authors even
deny fixing it is ... well, I'm not sure how to
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 02:16:21PM +0930, Stephen Davies wrote:
> Mea culpa :-(
>
> Twice over in fact.
>
> 1. I hadn't noticed that the files in question were all DOS files sent to me
> by a windows user ( so trailing $ searches failed) and
>
> 2. I hadn't noticed that all lines started with a
Hi Matthew,
A few questions:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:41:21PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Thursday, DNF version 0.5.3 was announced, along with Core DNF
> Plugins 0.1.1, which contains a new protected_packages plugin. So,
> there we go.
I'm guessing this is equivalent to the protect-p
On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi all,
I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
opening a thread, all open
On 07/09/14 15:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> mouse pointer over them (witho
On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
>> but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
>> opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, unti
On 08.07.2014 16:46, g wrote:
excuse me poma, tho _slightly_ off topic as you say, i would like
to add this:
...
:)
at least it is a ferrite and not fedorite,
you old g-fox.
poma
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On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi all,
I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
mouse pointer over them (without clic
"startxfce4 harmonization with the systemd-logind"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1117682
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=916668
As explained here,
"gphoto2 only as root -"
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/446166.html
with the reference,
"s
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 07/08/2014 11:40 PM, lee wrote:
>>
>> When something is disguised or hidden, it is not disabled. It is
>> camouflaged or concealed. Camouflage, concealment, hiding, disguise and
>> masking can all be used for*preventing* from being disabled.
>
>
On 07/09/14 03:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi all,
I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
mouse pointer over them (without click
On 8 July 2014 22:33, lee wrote:
> Ian Malone writes:
>
>> By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
>> you open the potential for exploits.
>
> How would that happen? A file system is either mounted or not, or is
> it?
I think I wasn't clear enough. The user doesn'
On 07/08/2014 11:40 PM, lee wrote:
When something is disguised or hidden, it is not disabled. It is
camouflaged or concealed. Camouflage, concealment, hiding, disguise and
masking can all be used for*preventing* from being disabled.
No. When a service is disabled it can still be started aft
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> This is not random Debian maintainers. This is the Debian technical
> committee empowered with making such decisions. A GR (General resolution)
> is the only way to override the tech committee and that requires some
> Debian maintainer to propose one and so far noone ha
Matthew Miller writes:
> The Fedora Project Board is exploring the question “What is success for
> Fedora?”, brought to the board-discuss mailing list by Board member
> Josh Boyer. This is a public mailing list for all Fedora community
> members, and we welcome your thoughtful contributions to th
David Benfell writes:
> lee writes:
>>
>> I don't mind this idea. Yet when I disable something, I expect it to be
>> disabled.
>
> This is another terminology issue, which I think should be viewed
> separately from the merits/demerits of systemd itself. And I'm
> inclined to agree that the terms
On 9 Jul 2014 00:33, "Rahul Sundaram" wrote:
> This is not random Debian maintainers. This is the Debian technical
committee empowered with making such decisions. A GR (General resolution)
is the only way to override the tech committee and that requires some
Debian maintainer to propose one and
Hi all,
I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
This happens both
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