Re: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread Digimer
On 17/04/14 01:41 AM, Roger wrote: This conversation has piqued my curiosity. Fedora becomes end of life. I'm guessing that means the kernel and associated components go EOL. What would be the difference between an EOL well serviced and managed Fedora 19 and newly installed CentOS6.5 as far as in

Re: Dual Boot System

2014-04-16 Thread Edward M
On 4/16/2014 10:46 PM, Javier Perez wrote: It is not a bad idea per se. The thing is that the reason I installed Ubuntu is because at some time (I think it was Fedora 16 or 17, don't remember now) Fedora could not set the right resolution for my display, 1920x1080, but Ubuntu indeed could do i

Re: Dual Boot System

2014-04-16 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
Hi again: Well your scheme is not bad. 50 GB for each OS is a lot, even if you don't store a lot of information in logs for run a server or something like that. I never use to install the \boot in a separate partition. I install the root (\) of each one inside it's own partition and the GRUB do th

Re: New kernel in updates-testing prevents from fast shut-down on one ofmy systems

2014-04-16 Thread antonio montagnani
Joe Zeff ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 17/04/2014 02:11: On 04/16/2014 12:33 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: Installed 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 kernel When shutting down from inside a session I get a stop job is running for user session andit takes a long time to shut down, that

Re: Dual Boot System

2014-04-16 Thread Javier Perez
It is not a bad idea per se. The thing is that the reason I installed Ubuntu is because at some time (I think it was Fedora 16 or 17, don't remember now) Fedora could not set the right resolution for my display, 1920x1080, but Ubuntu indeed could do it without problem. Virtualizing it would defeat

Re: Dual Boot System

2014-04-16 Thread Javier Perez
My Idea is to have sda=SSD, sdb=HDD /dev/sda1 = /boot, about 1G /dev/sda2 = / Ubuntu 50G aprox /dev/sda3 = / Fedora 50G aprox /dev/sda4 = swap * (I know i know, let's forget about extended/logical for the moment) /dev/sdb1= /MyData (to be available under both OS Then for both Ubuntu and Fedo

Re: Dual Boot System

2014-04-16 Thread Edward M
On 4/16/2014 8:49 PM, Javier Perez wrote: Hi I need some advice here regarding partitioning my home system. My home system is a triple boot system: Windows 2K, Fedora 20 and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I have three disks, one devoted to each operating system. The first disk has two partitions, one for th

Re: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread Roger
Thanks a lot to everybody who responded my question. I got the impression that for production better use non-Fedora (Centos, RH) so as to minimize the frequent-updates work. For development stage it seems that using Fedora would not be a big issue. I will consult my programmer about this advi

Re: Dual Boot System

2014-04-16 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
Hello: Well I have few experience with dual systems, and I don't understand your idea. You can have a SSD Hard Disk wherein you install one or more OS. You don't need to have a lot of physical hard disk for that. In fact in only one you can get two OS doing the right partions in a common hard disk

RE: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread Rachmayanto Surjadi
Thanks a lot to everybody who responded my question. I got the impression that for production better use non-Fedora (Centos, RH) so as to minimize the frequent-updates work. For development stage it seems that using Fedora would not be a big issue. I will consult my programmer about this advice,

Re: Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread poma
On 17.04.2014 04:14, Someone wrote: > On 04/17/2014 09:24 AM, poma wrote: >> >> It's OK, you got it. >> >> $ dmesg | grep -i sound >> >> >> poma > > Huh? What do you mean? Am I meant to run that command? Here's the > output: https://dpaste.de/diPR > HD Audio models: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Do

Dual Boot System

2014-04-16 Thread Javier Perez
Hi I need some advice here regarding partitioning my home system. My home system is a triple boot system: Windows 2K, Fedora 20 and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I have three disks, one devoted to each operating system. The first disk has two partitions, one for the OS (win2k), the rest for data to be shared w

How to put boot into interactive mode

2014-04-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Long ago I knew a way to get the boot process to require a keystroke at each step. This was important when you were trying to read the screen to figure out what is happening, typically wrong. But long ago I lost my notes on this, and I believe i need before my next reboot. Can someone point

Re: Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread Someone
On 04/17/2014 09:24 AM, poma wrote: > > It's OK, you got it. > > $ dmesg | grep -i sound > > > poma Huh? What do you mean? Am I meant to run that command? Here's the output: https://dpaste.de/diPR -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread poma
On 17.04.2014 03:07, Someone wrote: > On 04/17/2014 01:01 AM, poma wrote: >> On 16.04.2014 18:10, Someone wrote: >>> FWIW, I've just reinstalled alsa-plugins-pulseaudio and rebooted. While >>> the widget seems to be here to stay, the only channel remains "Dummy >>> Output", and sound still doesn't

Re: Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread Someone
On 04/17/2014 01:01 AM, poma wrote: > On 16.04.2014 18:10, Someone wrote: >> FWIW, I've just reinstalled alsa-plugins-pulseaudio and rebooted. While >> the widget seems to be here to stay, the only channel remains "Dummy >> Output", and sound still doesn't play. >> >> On 04/17/2014 12:01 AM, Someon

Re: New kernel in updates-testing prevents from fast shut-down on one ofmy systems

2014-04-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/16/2014 12:33 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: Installed 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 kernel When shutting down from inside a session I get a stop job is running for user session andit takes a long time to shut down, that is normal if I shut down after exiting any session. What happens when you

Re: debuginfo install: file /usr/lib/debug from PKG conflicts with file from package gtk2-debuginfo-2.24.22-2.fc19.i686

2014-04-16 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:15:42 +0200, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > >> I did build some rpm package. > > How exactly? I wrote .spec file (in him of course isn't nothing about *debuginfo* nor /usr/lib/debug/ directory tree), an then usual 'rpmbuild -ba MyPKG.spec' >> Now wh

Re: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/16/2014 11:12 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 16 April 2014 05:45, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 04/16/2014 05:40 AM, Digimer wrote: On 15/04/14 09:43 PM, Rachmayanto Surjadi wrote: Hi all: We are developing internal software using MySql dB and are planning to use Fedora for the server. Pleas

Re: CUPS service seems to have suddenly stopped working [Solved]

2014-04-16 Thread Claude Jones
On 04/16/2014 12:01 PM, Tim Waugh wrote: Claude Jones wrote: >X [15/Apr/2014:00:01:10 -0400] No valid Listen or Port lines were found >in the configuration file. But how did that configuration file get messed up? The only thing I remember doing on the day it stopped working was trying to shar

Re: New kernel in updates-testing prevents from fast shut-down on one ofmy systems

2014-04-16 Thread antonio montagnani
poma ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 16/04/2014 23:50: On 16.04.2014 21:33, antonio montagnani wrote: Installed 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 kernel When shutting down from inside a session I get a stop job is running for user session andit takes a long time to shut down, that is norm

Re: New kernel in updates-testing prevents from fast shut-down on one ofmy systems

2014-04-16 Thread poma
On 16.04.2014 21:33, antonio montagnani wrote: > Installed 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 kernel > When shutting down from inside a session I get a stop job is running for > user session andit takes a long time to shut down, that is normal if I > shut down after exiting any session. > Kernel!? :) $ r

Re: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread Ian Malone
On 16 April 2014 05:45, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 04/16/2014 05:40 AM, Digimer wrote: >> >> On 15/04/14 09:43 PM, Rachmayanto Surjadi wrote: >>> >>> Hi all: >>> >>> We are developing internal software using MySql dB and are planning to >>> use Fedora for the server. >> >> >> Please don't do that.

Re: New kernel in updates-testing prevents from fast shut-down on one ofmy systems

2014-04-16 Thread antonio
Tom Horsley ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 16/04/2014 21:49: On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:33:49 +0200 antonio montagnani wrote: Installed 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 kernel When shutting down from inside a session I get a stop job is running for user session andit takes a long time to s

Re: New kernel in updates-testing prevents from fast shut-down on one ofmy systems

2014-04-16 Thread antonio montagnani
antonio montagnani ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 16/04/2014 21:33: Installed 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 kernel When shutting down from inside a session I get a stop job is running for user session andit takes a long time to shut down, that is normal if I shut down after exiting an

Re: New kernel in updates-testing prevents from fast shut-down on one ofmy systems

2014-04-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:33:49 +0200 antonio montagnani wrote: > Installed 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 kernel > When shutting down from inside a session I get a stop job is running for > user session andit takes a long time to shut down, that is normal if I > shut down after exiting any session. I d

New kernel in updates-testing prevents from fast shut-down on one ofmy systems

2014-04-16 Thread antonio montagnani
Installed 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 kernel When shutting down from inside a session I get a stop job is running for user session andit takes a long time to shut down, that is normal if I shut down after exiting any session. -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F20 (Heisenbug) on Fujitsu L

Re: F20 Where's my system mail?

2014-04-16 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 16.04.2014, Timothy Murphy wrote: > The two config files (master.cf and main.cf) are difficult to follow, > and the documentation is poor. For a homeserver or "single use" MTA: 1. leave master.cf alone 2. Define these in main.cf - myhostname - mydomain - myorigin - mydestination

Re: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread poma
On 16.04.2014 03:43, Rachmayanto Surjadi wrote: > Hi all: > > We are developing internal software using MySql dB and are planning to use > Fedora for the server. > > The question is how do we know that this hardware (motherboard, CPU) really > support Fedora version 18 or 19? We are looking at mo

Re: Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread poma
On 16.04.2014 18:10, Someone wrote: > FWIW, I've just reinstalled alsa-plugins-pulseaudio and rebooted. While > the widget seems to be here to stay, the only channel remains "Dummy > Output", and sound still doesn't play. > > On 04/17/2014 12:01 AM, Someone wrote: >>> What is your make/model lapto

Re: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread Bill Oliver
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014, Rachmayanto Surjadi wrote: Hi all: We are developing internal software using MySql dB and are planning to use Fedora for the server. The question is how do we know that this hardware (motherboard, CPU) really support Fedora version 18 or 19? We are looking at mobo from

[389-users] Allow Directory Manager to bypass Password Policy

2014-04-16 Thread John Trump
Is it possible to allow the Directory Manager to bypass the password policy when resetting user passwords? I want to be able to set a users password to a default password. Currently if this password is in the users password history I can not reuse the password. -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@l

Re: Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread Someone
FWIW, I've just reinstalled alsa-plugins-pulseaudio and rebooted. While the widget seems to be here to stay, the only channel remains "Dummy Output", and sound still doesn't play. On 04/17/2014 12:01 AM, Someone wrote: >> What is your make/model laptop? > > It's a Lenovo Thinkpad. > >> Not famil

Re: CUPS service seems to have suddenly stopped working [Solved]

2014-04-16 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 08:18 -0400, Claude Jones wrote: > X [15/Apr/2014:00:01:10 -0400] No valid Listen or Port lines were found > in the configuration file. This was the reason. For what it's worth, in future CUPS will log to the system journal by default so this message would appear in the 'sy

Re: Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread Someone
> What is your make/model laptop? It's a Lenovo Thinkpad. > Not familiar with laptopsbut I suppose their audio device still sits on > the PCI bus What does > > lspci | grep -i audio > > show? 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 0

Re: debuginfo install: file /usr/lib/debug from PKG conflicts with file from package gtk2-debuginfo-2.24.22-2.fc19.i686

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:15:42 +0200, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > I did build some rpm package. How exactly? > Now when I install it's debuginfo rpm > (by 'rpm -i PKG-debuginfo-VER-REL.fc19.i686.rpm'), I got lot of errors > such as: > file /usr/lib/debug from install of PKG-debuginfo-VER-REL.fc19.

Re: CUPS service seems to have suddenly stopped working [Solved]

2014-04-16 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 4-16-14 23:03:10 Tim wrote: > So, trying to remove it would completely kill an > installation. Not quite: $ sudo dnf erase cups ... Dependencies resolved. Package Arch Version

Re: CUPS service seems to have suddenly stopped working [Solved]

2014-04-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 15 April 2014, Claude Jones sent: > I decided to remove CUPS and reinstall it. There were some strange > dependencies that got removed including Google Chrome. Once I > reinstalled CUPS, however, it started working properly again, and I > can once more print. I am amazed

Re: CUPS service seems to have suddenly stopped working [Solved]

2014-04-16 Thread Claude Jones
On 04/16/2014 03:52 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: We might still be able to find out what the problem was. CUPS logs errors to the /var/log/cups/error_log file. Can you take a look there and see why it was stopping so quickly after being started? there are a lot of errors - hard to say - here's a couple

Re: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread Roger
On 04/16/2014 06:29 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Rachmayanto Surjadi wrote: The question is how do we know that this hardware (motherboard, CPU) really support Fedora version 18 or 19? We are looking at mobo from Asus or Intel or Gigabyte, but did not find f

messagefilters of a thunderbird movemail account are not working automatically

2014-04-16 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi all, having a problem with a thunderbird movemail account: After having created a movemail account I checked successfully that local emails are managed by thunderbird. Now I tried to implement a message filter for the movemail inbox, but it does not work automatically (despite the enable toggl

Re: F20 Where's my system mail?

2014-04-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Heinz Diehl wrote: > yum install postfix > > It's easy to configure and can rewrite anything you want. I don't agree. The two config files (master.cf and main.cf) are difficult to follow, and the documentation is poor. When I posted a postfix query, I was advised (1) to read two books, and (2)

Re: Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/16/14 16:04, Someone wrote: > My sound abruptly stopped working, and the notification area widget > stopped appearing. It hasn't been working for a couple of weeks, at this > point, though it had been working fine before that. (Before it stopped > working, the notification area widget had bee

Re: F20 Where's my system mail?

2014-04-16 Thread Arthur Dent
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 19:14 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 15.04.2014, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > > Finally, I got msmtp working but I'm still not really happy > > (it doesn't rewrite destination addresses for aliased forwards, > > and that's a big problem with today's spam filters), so I wi

Re: F20 Where's my system mail?

2014-04-16 Thread Arthur Dent
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 16:40 +, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > Arthur Dent wrote: > > > I have read this page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail > > Yes, Fedora's great plan of no default sendmail basically means that > they simply do no longer install sendmail (d

Re: F20 Where's my system mail? SOLVED (I Hope)

2014-04-16 Thread Arthur Dent
Hello all, With what (I hope) will be my final update on this issue. This machine is a simple home server. It runs headless and is on 24/7. I an in the habit running yum update once per month and only then rebooting (and only then because the yum update usually brings down a new kernel). I long ag

Re: Need advice

2014-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Rachmayanto Surjadi wrote: > > The question is how do we know that this hardware (motherboard, CPU) really > support Fedora version 18 or 19? We are looking at mobo from Asus or Intel or > Gigabyte, but did not find firm answer. We did not find the info from mobo

Notification area audio widget suddenly invisible on Fedora LXDE spin

2014-04-16 Thread Someone
My sound abruptly stopped working, and the notification area widget stopped appearing. It hasn't been working for a couple of weeks, at this point, though it had been working fine before that. (Before it stopped working, the notification area widget had been displaying, as well. I can run pavucont

Re: CUPS service seems to have suddenly stopped working [Solved]

2014-04-16 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 22:24 -0400, Claude Jones wrote: > I decided to remove CUPS and reinstall it. There were some strange > dependencies that got removed including Google Chrome. Once I > reinstalled CUPS, however, it started working properly again, and I can > once more print. Thanks for the