Re: Fedora 19 yum update fails "invalid data stream" -- now completely stuck

2014-02-20 Thread bc98kinney
Sorry for the top post, but the mailer on this cell phone blows.  Thanks for reaching out Ed, but I'm afraid this machine is doomed. It won't even run puppy Linux reliably from a flash drive. I don't trust it with my data, which I hope stays intact.  Sent from my Galaxy SIII  Original

Re: Fedora 19 yum update fails "invalid data stream" -- now completely stuck

2014-02-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/21/14 11:48, Bob Kinney wrote: > > No one wants to take a swing at this one? Try cd /var/cache/yum/i386/19/ mv fedora fedora-orig yum check-update FYI, I've no problems to update an F19 system. > > I'm totally in limbo--I cannot fix Tbird because yum is hosed. I can't > reins

Re: running a software I have

2014-02-20 Thread William Biggs
yes execute permission set On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 20 February 2014, William Biggs sent: > > I installed bluegriffon and when I right click it . it shows gedit > > only > > Does the program have the execute permission bit set? > > If it's a script, d

RE: Fedora 19 yum update fails "invalid data stream" -- now completely stuck

2014-02-20 Thread bc98kinney
Another clue:  I copied a binary file from the system drive to another, and on each drive to a local subfolder. cmp is reporting differences in all of them. What the hell is going on?  Is this thing crazy or possessed? No one wants to take a swing at this one? I'm totally in limbo--I cannot

Fedora 19 yum update fails "invalid data stream" -- now completely stuck

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Kinney
No one wants to take a swing at this one? I'm totally in limbo--I cannot fix Tbird because yum is hosed.  I can't reinstall F19 because my media is or became hosed, and the iso is hosed.  I'm pretty consistent about checking downloads and media before burning and installing, and I'm pretty sur

Re: Very Off Topic

2014-02-20 Thread Roger
Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused the failure. Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue. Roger Have you tried a live CD on the system to make sure it is a windows issue? Actua

Re: OT: Win 7 -- Brother Printer Re: Very Off Topic -

2014-02-20 Thread Roger
Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused the failure. Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue. Roger Thanks to all who responded. The owner managed to get to a Brother service tech and

Re: HELP! System keeps locking up

2014-02-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/20/2014 03:42 AM, John Aldrich issued this missive: Hello, all... I'm running Fedora 20 on a homebrew PC It's an AMD Athlon X2 processor with an on-board nVidia display chipset. This is a fresh install of F20, pretty much up to date. I had to do a fresh install since I mangled the upgrade f

Re: Recovering/Restoring Boot Partition

2014-02-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Don Levey wrote: > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 63 10276051151380224+ 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT This starting value is from an old partition utility and is often incompatible with grub2, and leads to embe

Re: Fedora 20 how to switch desktop environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > If you want to switch the Display Manager, say from gdm to kdm. > > systemctl disable gdm.service > systemctl enable kdm.service > This can be reduced to # systemctl enable kdm --force Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapro

Re: running a software I have

2014-02-20 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 20 February 2014, William Biggs sent: > I installed bluegriffon and when I right click it . it shows gedit > only Does the program have the execute permission bit set? If it's a script, does it have #!/bin/bash (or equivalent) on the first line of text? -- [tim@localhost

Re: OT: Win 7 -- Brother Printer Re: Very Off Topic -

2014-02-20 Thread Mike Chambers
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 17:11 +1100, Roger wrote: > >> Has anyone in Linuxland who is also using w7pro experienced printing > >> issues, particularly with Brother laser and worked out what caused > >> the failure. Thanks, and apologies in advance for a non Linux issue. > >> Roger > > > Thanks to all

Re: Recovering/Restoring Boot Partition

2014-02-20 Thread Don Levey
On 2/20/2014 17:03, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Don Levey wrote: > >> ... >> After several weeks of schedule hell, I was finally able to work on >> this. The upshot is that the previously installed kernels weren't >> available (so I had to pull the more recent available

Re: Recovering/Restoring Boot Partition

2014-02-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Don Levey wrote: > On 1/29/2014 13:59, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> ... >> Anyway, if you're for sure convinced it's corrupt then reformat the >> partition. >> Use blkid to get the new volume UUID to insert into /etc/fstab so it gets >> mounted >> when you next boo

Re: Grub -

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 02/20/2014 03:16 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Assuming the firmware is BIOS and not UEFI… In the Fedora 20 installer, if you chose to not install a bootloader, core.img isn't created so it doesn't exist. If you're going to hand write the grub.conf by using GRUB 0.98 in CentOS, then write the en

Re: Recovering/Restoring Boot Partition

2014-02-20 Thread Don Levey
On 2/18/2014 17:46, Don Levey wrote: > On 1/29/2014 13:59, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> ... >> Anyway, if you're for sure convinced it's corrupt then reformat the >> partition. >> Use blkid to get the new volume UUID to insert into /etc/fstab so it gets >> mounted >> when you next boot. And then m

Re: Fedora 20 how to switch desktop environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/21/14 01:23, James wrote: > I use MATE originally. I installed GNOME, XFCE and KDE. I want to switch one > from another to see their difference. How can I do this? > Remember, Display Manager != Desktop Environment. If you want to switch the Display Manager, say from gdm to kdm. systemctl

Re: packages requiring "httpd" as opposed to requiring "webserver"?

2014-02-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > HI > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >   that might be a *lot* of bug reports: > > $ repoquery -q --whatrequires webserver| wc -l > 20 > $ repoquery -q --whatrequires httpd| wc -l > 205 > > > Y

Re: Grub -

2014-02-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I would like to boot Fedora-20 from the Centos 6 grub. So far my efforts have > not been successful. > I've tried various thing I found via Google to no avail ... > > For instance the following does not work: > > [root@box10 bobg]# cat /etc/g

Re: packages requiring "httpd" as opposed to requiring "webserver"?

2014-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > that might be a *lot* of bug reports: > > $ repoquery -q --whatrequires webserver| wc -l > 20 > $ repoquery -q --whatrequires httpd| wc -l > 205 > You shouldn't do this blindly. Some packages specifically need httpd and not just

Re: Grub -

2014-02-20 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 14:55 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I would like to boot Fedora-20 from the Centos 6 grub. You will most likely have more success doing the opposite. The newer bootloader should be able to boot the older system, but the reverse is not necessarily true. --Greg -- users mail

Grub -

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
I would like to boot Fedora-20 from the Centos 6 grub. So far my efforts have not been successful. I've tried various thing I found via Google to no avail ... For instance the following does not work: [root@box10 bobg]# cat /etc/grub.conf # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do n

Convert windows 7 to vm using virt

2014-02-20 Thread ben
Hello, I have a desktop with Windows 7 installed (using whole HD) that I wan to convert to a vm. Can virt-p2v do this? Looking to do this operation by: 1) Install F20 on second hard drive (2 TB) 2) Windows 7 HD (250 GB) -> F20 has a vm 250 GB VM Or would I have to reinstall Win7 in a VM and t

Re: Good Fedora-compatible multi-monitor video card recommendation

2014-02-20 Thread Dale Dellutri
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Digimer wrote: > Hi all, > > What would be a good (as in, relatively painless) video card for driving > as many 1080p monitors as possible? I'm not concerned about 3D performance > at all... It will be to display terminals/rarely-changing web pages only. > > I kno

Re: packages requiring "httpd" as opposed to requiring "webserver"?

2014-02-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 20/02/2014 14:43, Robert P. J. Day a écrit : > > > is that considered good package design? it may be that there are > > some packages that absolutely need some webserver feature that is > > provided only by httpd, but is it also possible that some pac

Re: Fedora 20 how to switch desktop environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:57:18 -0800 (PST) James wrote: > I cannot find the Session option. Do you know the command to switch > for next reboot? Thanks, On some login managers, the session option doesn't appear until you select the user to login as. (Since each user will have their own selection i

Re: Fedora 20 how to switch desktop environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Andre Robatino
James yahoo.com> writes: > I cannot find the Session option. Do you know the command to switch for next reboot?Thanks,James Most display managers, including gdm, let you choose the DE immediately after entering the username (each user may have a different preferred DE, so you need to enter usern

Re: Fedora 20 how to switch desktop environment?

2014-02-20 Thread James
I cannot find the Session option. Do you know the command to switch for next reboot? Thanks, James On Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:47 PM, Mark Haney wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/20/2014 12:23 PM, James wrote: > I use MATE originally. I installed GNOME, X

Re: Fedora 20 how to switch desktop environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/20/2014 12:23 PM, James wrote: > I use MATE originally. I installed GNOME, XFCE and KDE. I want to > switch one from another to see their difference. How can I do > this? > > thanks, > > James > > > Not tried in F20, but in F19 there was a

Fedora 20 how to switch desktop environment?

2014-02-20 Thread James
I use MATE originally. I installed GNOME, XFCE and KDE. I want to switch one from another to see their difference. How can I do this? thanks, James -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: CentOS and Fedora as alternative OS's

2014-02-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I tried to install Fedora-20 as a second OS on my CentOS-6.5 server, > purely as an experiment, but it was disastrously unsuccessful. Be more specific? > I used the same /boot partition for both, > assuming that Fedora would use /boot/grub2/

Re: packages requiring "httpd" as opposed to requiring "webserver"?

2014-02-20 Thread Remi Collet
Le 20/02/2014 14:43, Robert P. J. Day a écrit : > is that considered good package design? it may be that there are > some packages that absolutely need some webserver feature that is > provided only by httpd, but is it also possible that some packages are > being unnecessarily restrictive? just

Re: running a software I have

2014-02-20 Thread William Biggs
I installed bluegriffon and when I right click it . it shows gedit only . On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 17:38 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 20 February 2014, William Biggs sent: > > I have a few software install . When I try to run the software by > > click the software it run it it open's ged

Re: Very Off Topic

2014-02-20 Thread Les Howell
On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 20:37 +1100, Roger wrote: > A friend has windows 7 professional sp1 on a Dell Vostro, 230 32 bit > driving word 2007. No viruses reported, no infections, all antivirusware > to update. > Until a few days ago printed perfectly to a HL 4040CN Brother laser. > We have tried eve

Re: packages requiring "httpd" as opposed to requiring "webserver"?

2014-02-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day  wrote: > >   is that considered good package design? it may be that there are > some packages that absolutely need some webserver feature that is > provided only by httpd, but

Re: packages requiring "httpd" as opposed to requiring "webserver"?

2014-02-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > is that considered good package design? it may be that there are > some packages that absolutely need some webserver feature that is > provided only by httpd, but is it also possible that some packages are > being unnecessarily r

Re: Good Fedora-compatible multi-monitor video card recommendation

2014-02-20 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
>> Digimer writes: >>> What would be a good (as in, relatively painless) video card for >>> driving as many 1080p monitors as possible? I'm not concerned about 3D >>> performance at all... It will be to display terminals/rarely-changing >>> web pages only. ATI FirePro 2460 512MB DDR3 4x Mini-Dis

RE: HELP! System keeps locking up

2014-02-20 Thread John Aldrich
Quoting bc98kinney : Lockups can come from bad memory, so I would recommend you run memtest86 before anything else. Sometimes you have to let it go for a couple days before it finds anything.  A non destructive drive test like DFT wouldn't be a bad idea either.  Thanks. Asked on a loc

Fedora 20 xrdp: error - problem connecting

2014-02-20 Thread James
Now I can initiate the remote desktop to my Fedora 20 from my Windows7 machine. But the connection is not completely successful. The message is followed: connecting to sesman ip 127.0.0.1 port 3350 sesman connect ok sending login info to session manager, please wait ... xrdp_mm_porcess_login_resp

Re: Help needed with xhost

2014-02-20 Thread g
On 02/20/2014 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 19 February 2014, Ambrogio De Lorenzo sent: Ok, I understand very well every problems related to the use of root or administrator. Translate to another question: I use a normal user, but I want to use another user for another program,

RE: HELP! System keeps locking up

2014-02-20 Thread bc98kinney
Lockups can come from bad memory, so I would recommend you run memtest86 before anything else. Sometimes you have to let it go for a couple days before it finds anything.  A non destructive drive test like DFT wouldn't be a bad idea either.  Sent from my Galaxy SIII  Original message

what does it mean for a pkg to both require and provide "config(pkg)"?

2014-02-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
another packaging question, if i may. first, what does it mean when a package provides "config(packagename)"? for instance, firewalld: $ rpm -q --provides firewalld config(firewalld) = 0.3.9.3-1.fc20<-- ??? firewalld = 0.3.9.3-1.fc20 $ so firewalld apparently provides ... what? a configu

packages requiring "httpd" as opposed to requiring "webserver"?

2014-02-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
currently playing with various features of rpm/yum/repoquery, and a general philosophy question. i can see that, when i query some packages, they officially "provide" (among other things) a generic service name. for instance, on my f20 system, i can see that the httpd package provides the facili

Re: Very Off Topic

2014-02-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:59:03 +1030 Tim wrote: > > Personally, > > I have never got a BSOD since > > I first used MS in 1992. > > And how long since you last used it? ;-) (Suspecting a bit of a joke > in your assertion.) Currently on 8.1, not the same PC though. Started on 3.1 > 3.11 wg, 95a,b

CentOS and Fedora as alternative OS's

2014-02-20 Thread Timothy Murphy
I tried to install Fedora-20 as a second OS on my CentOS-6.5 server, purely as an experiment, but it was disastrously unsuccessful. I used the same /boot partition for both, assuming that Fedora would use /boot/grub2/ while CentOS used /boot/grub/, so the two would not interfere with each other. I

HELP! System keeps locking up

2014-02-20 Thread John Aldrich
Hello, all... I'm running Fedora 20 on a homebrew PC It's an AMD Athlon X2 processor with an on-board nVidia display chipset. This is a fresh install of F20, pretty much up to date. I had to do a fresh install since I mangled the upgrade from F18. Every once in awhile, mainly when I'm trying to

Re: Very Off Topic

2014-02-20 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 20 February 2014, Frank Murphy sent: > to quote "Win7 won't work with my app" > > He keeps re-installing the app. > This guy is an electronics engineer. That's computer users all over the place, keep doing the same thing, over and over, hoping for a different result. > Per

Brosix

2014-02-20 Thread Roger
Has anyone got Brosix working cleanly on Fedora 19? It works on my machine but the 3 second delay echo and the chopping of voices on both my box and the Apple box I communicate with makes communication untenable. Researching all day so far is of no real help Can anyone advice how to get clean

Best repo for cinnamon themes, applets, desklets and extensions?

2014-02-20 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
Hello, I'm just enjoying latest cinnamon desktop on my Fedora 20 I see this web site http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/ are these provided also in rpm based format in some way/repo, in particular for extensions? At first sight on my Fedora 20 desktop a search for packages gives only: cinnamon c