Re: Development question

2014-02-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 02:54:54PM -0700, CS DBA wrote: > It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per > hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I > see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up with > drivers, software, etc for hardware af

Re: Development question

2014-02-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:54:54 -0700 CS DBA wrote: > We'll be setting up some infrastructure around community involvement > and feedback, however I'd be interested in any initial feedback you > all have. > Talk to the @devel list, around the whole Fedora.next thing. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread poma
On 07.02.2014 10:36, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:30:26AM +0100, poma wrote: >> Thanks for asking! >> Actually with that phrase I stress somewhat of a misnomer for the >> program - "sftp". >> Some kind of comparison would be, if something like a web browser gets >> the name as

Re: UEFI issue for dual boot. (Solved)

2014-02-07 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-02-02 00:03, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 2 February 2014 08:57, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 2 February 2014 06:18, Robin Laing wrote: Hello, Successfully installed F19 (a few months ago) with UEFI and it boots into Fedora with no issues. Trying to boot into Windows gives an error about findin

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread poma
On 07.02.2014 19:15, Pete Travis wrote: > On Feb 7, 2014 4:47 AM, "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: >> >> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Tim Evans wrote: >> >>> On 02/06/2014 05:38 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: again, reading RHEL 7-beta docs and here: > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentat

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread poma
On 07.02.2014 10:08, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:30:26 +0100 > poma wrote: > >> On 07.02.2014 02:04, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 01:14:05 +0100 >>> poma wrote: Secure File Transfer Protocol /etc/ssh/sshd_config Subsystem sftp/usr/li

Re: Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 with Fedora

2014-02-07 Thread poma
On 08.02.2014 02:15, CS DBA wrote: > Anyone using Fedora with this wireless card: > Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 > > Works well? > > Thanks in advance This is a theoretical. $ lspci -knn; Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 [8086:08b1] (rev 6b) Netwo

Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 with Fedora

2014-02-07 Thread CS DBA
Anyone using Fedora with this wireless card: Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 Works well? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of

NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB and Fedora

2014-02-07 Thread CS DBA
Anyone running Fedora with this card: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB Does it work well? any gotcha's? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: htt

Re: Development question

2014-02-07 Thread CS DBA
On 2/7/14, 5:17 PM, Doug wrote: On 02/07/2014 04:54 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up with drivers, software

Re: Development question

2014-02-07 Thread CS DBA
On 2/7/14, 3:27 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/07/2014 01:54 PM, CS DBA issued this missive: Hi All; It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up wit

Re: Best practices for SSD

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 7, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >> On 02/07/2014 03:00 AM, sam tygier wrote: >>> >>> Ubuntu will be using a cronjob that calls fstrim, not the discard mount >>> option. >>> They found that the discard option cause

Re: Best practices for SSD

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 7, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 02/07/2014 03:00 AM, sam tygier wrote: >> >> Ubuntu will be using a cronjob that calls fstrim, not the discard mount >> option. >> They found that the discard option cause a small performance hit. >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/u

Re: Fedora 19 Freezes

2014-02-07 Thread linuxnutster
On 02/07/2014 04:27 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/07/2014 11:25 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca issued this missive: I have been getting a lot of freezes in Fedora 19, usually once the screensaver kicks in for a while, but also at the login prompt and when using firefox. The most recent freeze inv

Re: Please help me figure out the cause of frozen system after package install

2014-02-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:30:41 -0800 Ian Kelling wrote: > I did > /bin/yum -y install samba My current favorite bug to blame all mysterious failures on (especially if they occur at a yum install time or during cron runs) is this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043212 That mentio

Re: Development question

2014-02-07 Thread Doug
On 02/07/2014 04:54 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up with drivers, software, etc for hardware after the fact

Re: Development question

2014-02-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:54:54 -0700 CS DBA wrote: > I wonder, what could be accomplished if a Linux based distro had the > same advantage? If someone would add an internal driver API in linux with one that could instead load and run native Windows drivers, then Linux would have the same advantage

Re: Best practices for SSD

2014-02-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/07/2014 03:00 AM, sam tygier wrote: Ubuntu will be using a cronjob that calls fstrim, not the discard mount option. They found that the discard option cause a small performance hit. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-ssd-trimming If you read the link you posted you w

Re: Case of the ghost CD

2014-02-07 Thread Steven Stern
On 02/07/2014 02:34 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have 2 linux systems. Both are running fc18. In one I play a CDby > Katey Mathey Matesthsgt id what plays. same CD is palce in the drive a > CD by Waylon Jennings is played. > > Can any one explain how this is possible? The same CD is inserted in

Re: Best practices for SSD

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:00 AM, sam tygier wrote: > On 06/02/14 23:35, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Feb 6, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Wade Hampton wrote: >>> - mount using discard (or use the fstrim program periodically) >> >> The discard/TRIM debate can be found in the archives and also on devel@ >> archive

Re: Case of the ghost CD

2014-02-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:34:20 -0600 Aaron Konstam wrote: > Waylon Jennings It's doesn't like his music :) ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fe

Re: Development question

2014-02-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/07/2014 01:54 PM, CS DBA issued this missive: Hi All; It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up with drivers, software, etc for hardware aft

Development question

2014-02-07 Thread CS DBA
Hi All; It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up with drivers, software, etc for hardware after the fact. I wonder, what could be accomplishe

Re: F20 cursor invisible

2014-02-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/07/2014 11:00 AM, Beartooth issued this missive: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:20:17 +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote: [] It looks like you're logged in with a regular user account, so run dconf-editor as user not root. I tried that, at long long last (working without a mouse curso

Please help me figure out the cause of frozen system after package install

2014-02-07 Thread Ian Kelling
I did /bin/yum -y install samba My screen immediately went to the fedora logo boot animation, then just sat there frozen after the animation finished with a screen like this http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/3/3b/F11_Snap_37.png. Ctrl-alt-f2 did not work, and I had to hold the power button down to

Re: Fedora 19 Freezes

2014-02-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/07/2014 11:25 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca issued this missive: I have been getting a lot of freezes in Fedora 19, usually once the screensaver kicks in for a while, but also at the login prompt and when using firefox. The most recent freeze involved the screensaver. It simply locked up wi

Re: Fedora on a Thinkpad W540

2014-02-07 Thread CS DBA
Unfortunately it's web order only... I can send it back if needed but some level of confidence before I pull the trigger would be nice... Thanks for the feedback On 2/7/14, 1:08 AM, poma wrote: Although the best way would be to download and burn a Live CD[1] of your choice, and then walk to

Case of the ghost CD

2014-02-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
I have 2 linux systems. Both are running fc18. In one I play a CDby Katey Mathey Matesthsgt id what plays. same CD is palce in the drive a CD by Waylon Jennings is played. Can any one explain how this is possible? The same CD is inserted in both machines. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedo

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/07/2014 11:01 AM, Tim wrote: You need to stop people from making connections to anything that allows the encrypted transmission of passwords. Hence why removing vsftpd (and other unsafe protocols). Don't you mean "unencrypted?" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Fedora 19 Freezes

2014-02-07 Thread linuxnutster
I have been getting a lot of freezes in Fedora 19, usually once the screensaver kicks in for a while, but also at the login prompt and when using firefox. The most recent freeze involved the screensaver. It simply locked up with the screensaver image frozen and still visible. The mouse cursor w

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 February 2014, Robert P. J. Day sent: > "For SSH to be truly effective, using insecure connection protocols > should be prohibited. Otherwise, a user's password may be protected > using SSH for one session, only to be captured later while logging in > using Telnet. Some se

Re: F20 cursor invisible

2014-02-07 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:20:17 +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote: [] >> > It looks like you're logged in with a regular user account, so run >> > dconf-editor as user not root. >> >> I tried that, at long long last (working without a mouse cursor >> is like swimming in icy-cold molasses);

Re: CentOS on home machine HD

2014-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/07/2014 10:20 AM, Tim wrote: You shouldn't need to unplug a drive to make a fresh install clean from any other installs, however it does make easier to avoid accidentally selecting the wrong drive to install to. But, on the other hand, if you're changing what drives are plugged in, or play

Re: CentOS on home machine HD

2014-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 07 February 2014, Roger sent: > Is it possible, while the pc is switched on during the day to use the > CentOS as a server for development without affecting or accessing my > working Linux installations? Unless you're sharing some drive space between each installation (su

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Pete Travis
On Feb 7, 2014 4:47 AM, "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Tim Evans wrote: > > > On 02/06/2014 05:38 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > >again, reading RHEL 7-beta docs and here: > > > > > > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7-Beta/h

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/06/2014 09:55 PM, Matthew Miller issued this missive: On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 05:38:35PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: By contrast, despite having the substring sftp in its name, vsftpd is a standard FTP server and by default transmits any passwords in plain text. It's only called "v

Re: Is there any way to kill the process which went to uninterruptible sleep (D) state??

2014-02-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 15:43:55 + Kevin Peterson wrote: > Is there any way to kill the process which went to uninterruptible sleep (D) > state due of some reason without rebooting machine?? Generally speaking, no, but I have sometimes seen that if a single thread of a multi-threaded process gets

RE: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Patrick Kobly
Robert, I figured I would reply to this, as it seems the responses you have received so far have lacked clarity (or haven't included all of the relevant information). There are two commonly used protocols that are functionally equivalent to FTP but use encrypted channels. They are: SFTP (SSH

Re: Is there any way to kill the process which went to uninterruptible sleep (D) state??

2014-02-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Kevin Peterson wrote: > Is there any way to kill the process which went to uninterruptible sleep (D) > state due of some reason without rebooting machine?? Short answer: no. Longer answer: D state is used when the process suspends waiting for an event which "has

Is there any way to kill the process which went to uninterruptible sleep (D) state??

2014-02-07 Thread Kevin Peterson
Hi, Is there any way to kill the process which went to uninterruptible sleep (D) state due of some reason without rebooting machine?? I observed one of the process went to D-state during performance runs. Now, not able to kill the process using pkill or kill commands? Finally, we have to rebo

Re: F20 cursor invisible

2014-02-07 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 6 February 2014 21:15, Beartooth wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:40:01 +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote: > > > On 30 January 2014 22:59, Beartooth wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:08:15 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> > >> > This dconf key worked for me: > >> > > >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Tim Evans wrote: > On 02/06/2014 05:38 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > >again, reading RHEL 7-beta docs and here: > > > > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7-Beta/html/System_Administrators_Guide/s1-ssh-configuration.html > > > >

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 08:30:26AM +0100, poma wrote: > Thanks for asking! > Actually with that phrase I stress somewhat of a misnomer for the > program - "sftp". > Some kind of comparison would be, if something like a web browser gets > the name as "http". Sure: telnet and telnetd rlogin an

Re: Best practices for SSD

2014-02-07 Thread sam tygier
On 06/02/14 23:35, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 6, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Wade Hampton wrote: - mount using discard (or use the fstrim program periodically) The discard/TRIM debate can be found in the archives and also on devel@ archives, and on XFS archives. Not all SSDs perform that well with dis

Re: CentOS on home machine HD

2014-02-07 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 2/7/14, Roger wrote: > I've not experimented with server systems for many many years so would > like to understand a few points. > > On my home machine I have 2 hard drives one has 2 partitions, Ubuntu on > the first and Fedora which I use most on the second partition. > the pc boots through t

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:30:26 +0100 poma wrote: > On 07.02.2014 02:04, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 01:14:05 +0100 > > poma wrote: > >> > >> Secure File Transfer Protocol > >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config > >> Subsystem sftp/usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server > >> > >> man 5 sshd_conf

CentOS on home machine HD

2014-02-07 Thread Roger
I've not experimented with server systems for many many years so would like to understand a few points. On my home machine I have 2 hard drives one has 2 partitions, Ubuntu on the first and Fedora which I use most on the second partition. the pc boots through the Ubuntu grub. I have Fedora 1

High CPU usage with VLC and Totem

2014-02-07 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
Hi, When I play videos in vlc or totem there is high cpu usage and cinnamon is the one which contributes to most of the usage (around 50%) of the cpu usage (according to the system monitor) I have this issue after I upgraded from f20 from f19. I upgraded using yum and my current DE is cinnamon 2.

Re: why would using "sftp" require disabling "vsftpd"?

2014-02-07 Thread Roger
man command in a terminal displays manual pages in Linux. in a terminal type man sshd_config read the file, then man sftp and read that file and so on. Roger On 07.02.2014 02:04, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 01:14:05 +0100 poma wrote: Secure File Transfer Protocol /etc/ssh/ss

Re: Fedora on a Thinkpad W540

2014-02-07 Thread poma
Although the best way would be to download and burn a Live CD[1] of your choice, and then walk to the nearest store and try it yourself. Everything else is pure lottery. poma [1] http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/20/Live/x86_64/ http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nig