Re: F-20: no shutdown/reboot due to unstopped jobs

2013-12-19 Thread antonio montagnani
antonio ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/12/2013 20:53: Chris Murphy ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/12/2013 20:48: On Dec 18, 2013, at 5:11 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: when I want to poweroff/reboot the machine I get this message: a stop job is running

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 16:43 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:14 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth > wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy > > wrote: > >> Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I > >> understand from light documentation how d

Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 09:26 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 06:15 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/R

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread ergodic
> Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, > I > only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only > VIM > to edit files :) Why? - Original Message - > On 12/19/2013 10:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán

f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64

2013-12-19 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
I have a Gateway NV53A laptop that has Centos 6.5 installed and performing without a problem. I tried to install the x64 f20 on this machine, but have not been able to get the discs to install. I checksumed the disc and it passed I tested the disc with the boot process, and could not figure o

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 10:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/20/13 09:26, Greg Woods wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. >> >> But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 > Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6, installed > the extensi

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 18:26 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. > > > > But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 > > Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6,

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. > > But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6, installed the extension pack, and... I still get a black screen a

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 08:13 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On

Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 03:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 04:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robe

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 03:46 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: > > 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be > > rotated at least every 90 days. > > I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. I agree with you on

Re: Acroread vs. ctrl/z

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/20/13 08:22, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 03:07:49PM -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > >> When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. >> ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself >> or ctrl/c is pressed on the ter

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor ins

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries a

Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 06:15 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Deskt

Re: Acroread vs. ctrl/z

2013-12-19 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 03:07:49PM -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. > ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself > or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However "$ acroread &" starts > acroread in

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just w

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/20/13 07:50, Greg Woods wrote: > I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but > I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, > if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main > syslinux/Anaconda menu, but as soon as I s

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but > I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, > if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main > syslinux/Anaconda menu, but a

Re: Acroread vs. ctrl/z

2013-12-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. > ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself > or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However "$ acroread &" starts > acroread in the bac

F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main syslinux/Anaconda menu, but as soon as I select "Install Fedora", the screen goes blac

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:14 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy > wrote: >> Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I understand >> from light documentation how deltarpm works, what I'm not sure is if most of >> the time is spent

Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?

2013-12-19 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release > notes of gnome 3.10 and > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html > > > 3.1.4 discusses gnome-tw

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I understand > from light documentation how deltarpm works, what I'm not sure is if most of > the time is spent reconstructing a virtual oldrpm from an installed rpm, or > apply

reading/copying a drive??

2013-12-19 Thread bruce
HI. Took a drive from an older FC13 system, put it in a usb drive bay to read from a centos 6.5 system centos sees the drive, but only reports the drive as 350 M free, of a 640G drive.. centos doesn't show all the folders/files on the drive. I'm only seeing the vm/image files... any pointers to

Acroread vs. ctrl/z

2013-12-19 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However "$ acroread &" starts acroread in the background and ctrl/z suspends all other programs, as expected. Syste

f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html 3.1.4 discusses gnome-tweak-tool No gnome-tweak-tool installed. so yum provides gn

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz > wrote: >> I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to >> download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. >> Seems I am better of N

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 05:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms ava

Re: FedUp 18 -> 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread M A Young
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: # yum install perl-autodie ... Transaction check error: file /usr/share/man/man3/Fatal.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie.3pm.gz from i

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 05:36 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:30:08 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT h

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to > download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. > Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. Yeah, if you have a local mirror there'

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:00:16 -0800 Steven Rosenberg > wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim wrote: >>> I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the >>> *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. >> >>

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:30:08 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On my Asus 900. > > I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time > to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the > local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. > > hmmm... >

f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. hmmm... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and

Re: Disable PulseAudio on a NAS

2013-12-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/19/2013 01:16 PM, John Obaterspok issued this missive: Hi, I don't think I'll need to have PA enabled on my NAS. What is the easiest way to *disable* it? Unless you log into a desktop environment, it shouldn't run. If you do log into a desktop, then go to the session startup config for t

Re: rsync not backing up all files

2013-12-19 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 18Dec2013 10:17, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Thanks for clarifying this for me. I suspected directories, but did > not think I had THAT many! Obviously it was more than just > directories. I will save this little find in my notes of things to > check. Symlinks maybe. Or hardlinks (but you're no

Re: Cron vs. Whenjobs vs. Goaljobs

2013-12-19 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 18Dec2013 00:43, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > * Frequently, I start the system, check my email and leave for > breakfast; on these days, I'd like backup to start when I leave; > I would invoke it by a shell script or whatever. > * Other days, I stay on the system for a

Disable PulseAudio on a NAS

2013-12-19 Thread John Obaterspok
Hi, I don't think I'll need to have PA enabled on my NAS. What is the easiest way to *disable* it? -- john -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedo

Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 04:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) Requires

Dumb gdm question

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Eggers
Fedora 20 (from fedup) Dell Inspiron N7110 Intel Integrated Graphics Controller With Fedora 19, the GDM login screen would blank after a certain amount of time. With Fedora 20, this no longer happens. I would like to restore Fedora 19's behaviour, so I can leave the laptop on and access it remo

Re: FedUp 18 -> 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
Michael wrote: > You may also need to use yum or rpm to remove some of the duplicates > by hand if package-cleanup can't work out how to solve all the > dependencies. The only bits of perl that I could not clean up seem to be perl and perl libs. I did : # rpm -q --provides perl-5.16.3-266.fc19.

Re: f20 - enabling update repo

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Not figured out yet... On 12/18/2013 06:18 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I see in http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/index.html sec 8.1.4 that I am suppose to add: repo=http://fqdn/os/i386/ to the install command (pressing tab at boot time). My notes for f17

Re: f20 - customize installed software

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Is this for real? Did they really dumb it down like this? For Gnome, all I can do is select things like include admin tools. Nothing about what admin tools. I cannot remove Evolution and substitute Thunderbird. I could go on, but you get the point. They made it too dumb. Or I am missing s

Solved - Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 06:01 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 05:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 05:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Paweł Sikora
On Friday 20 of December 2013 03:46:13 Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: > > 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be > > rotated at least every 90 days. > > I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. using rotated pa

Re: FedUp 18 -> 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread M A Young
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. After the update I have many orphaned packages : # package-cleanup --orphans | wc -l 635 When I examine them I see things like fedora-release, zlib, and such. They mostly exist alongside their identi

Re: Re: FedUp 18 -> 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
Frank wrote: > package-cleanup --dupes > packagecleanup --cleandupes Somewhere in there some some dependency leaves fc18 and starts ripping out large parts of fc19.. It looks to be perl # yum remove `package-cleanup --dupes | grep perl | grep fc18` ... Remove 67 Packages (+32 Dependent packages

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread bruce
guys.. The project that the corrupt system is going to be driving will create a distributed network of systems, where the edge systems, are tied back into the central server(s). Think of the BOINC/SETI project, where you have a bunch of edge systems doing "work" and communicating back to the maste

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Tethys
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Tim wrote: > If you get hacked, changing the password after the event is too late. > And if they installed a backdoor, changing your password will be > completely pointless. > > If you haven't been hacked, you're just making life harder for yourself, > trying to r

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:00:16 -0800 Steven Rosenberg wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim wrote: > > I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the > > *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. > > > And how! Like it used to.or put in an rpm, installation o

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/18/2013 11:05 AM, bruce wrote: > Hey guys. - subject says it all!! > > For a basic centos/fedora install. Need to have > pointers/docs/suggestions/solid steps to actually harden/secure a > system. > > I've looked at a bunch of different articles/sites, so I'm also turning here. > > Also, a

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim wrote: > I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the > *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. And how! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2013 12:44 PM, Roger Heflin wrote: > If you have not installed it, install denyhosts...it watches for > ssh password attacks and locks out hosts automatically. > > Yes, denyhosts is also a good package and one I've forgotten about. Thanks f

f20 - SD card dropping to read-only after suspend/resume

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have an SD card all the time in my Asus ee900 that I have just put f20 i386 on. I close the system regularly then open it up, unlock and do something. On f17, this was not a problem. I just realized that the SD card would become read-only after resume. i have to unmount it, remove it, and

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Roger Heflin
If you have not installed it, install denyhosts...it watches for ssh password attacks and locks out hosts automatically. It does limit the number of attempts someone gets before being completely locked out. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: [389-users] Password Failure Lockout doesn't seem to work

2013-12-19 Thread JLPicard
These issues are happening on a Solaris Sparc server, most of our infrastructure is Solaris Sparc, with some Solaris X86 servers. The Solaris equivalent of NSCD called "svc:/system/name-service-cache:default" is running. I am not familiar with authconfig, I can look for the Solaris equivalent

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 19 December 2013, Ranjan Maitra sent: > According to this bug report, I need to add > > resume= > > to the grub line. I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2013 12:16 PM, Tim wrote: > You really need something that detects attempt to crack passwords, > responds appropriately to thwart the attacks while they happen, > and immediately notifies you that an attempt is happening as it > happens (e.g

Re: FedUp 18 -> 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:16:16 -0500 "Kevin H. Hobbs" wrote: > I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. > > Any idea what's going on? > package-cleanup --dupes packagecleanup --cleandupes -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

FedUp 18 -> 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. After the update I have many orphaned packages : # package-cleanup --orphans | wc -l 635 When I examine them I see things like fedora-release, zlib, and such. They mostly exist alongside their identical fedora 19 versions : # package-cleanup --or

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: > 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be > rotated at least every 90 days. I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. If you get hacked, changing the password after the event is too late. And i

Re: how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.

2013-12-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > while i appreciate the formalization of the Filesystem Hierarchy > Standard (FHS), it's certainly been a while since it's been updated: > > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ > > is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? ho

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 17:32 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: > > > Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. > > This is selectable at install? The desktop environments that you can select at install time are pretty limited; I don't t

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate (SOLVED!)

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:52:04 + Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:50:04 -0600 > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > > > You can also use "resume=/dev/sd" (your swap partition). > > > > That's more simple :-) > > > > > > Absolutely, thanks! > > > > > > But where do I find this value? I ca

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:50:04 -0600 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > You can also use "resume=/dev/sd" (your swap partition). > > > That's more simple :-) > > > > Absolutely, thanks! > > > > But where do I find this value? I can't see it on my df: > > > > Answering my own question: after some search

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:59:45 -0600 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:51:33 +0100 Joachim Backes > wrote: > > > On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:

Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17

2013-12-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 09:50:01 AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: > Fedora 17 has python 2.7 as can be seen > and python modules built against 2.7 (normal practise) > > Check the src, and see if you need to install some lib* > https://github.com/gaubert/gmvault/tree/v1.8-beta-20130321 > > You won't g

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 15:18:18 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 19.12.2013 11:22, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 > > Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > > ownload for an upgrade if they did. > >> > >> That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an > >>

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.12.2013 11:22, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 > Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > ownload for an upgrade if they did. >> >> That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an >> error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct >> me if I'm

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:51:33 +0100 Joachim Backes wrote: > On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes > > wrote: > > > >> On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >>> > >>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra > >>> wrote: >

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes > wrote: > >> On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra >>> wrote: >>> Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate usin

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/19/13 21:36, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:22:14 + Frank Murphy > wrote: > >> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 >> Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> ownload for an upgrade if they did. >>> That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an >>> error during pac

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes wrote: > On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra > > wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl > >> hibernate: everything works fine,

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:36:39 -0600 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Actually not in this case. It was a clean install. > I would still run "yum --releasever=20 distro-sync --skip-broken" -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:22:14 + Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 > Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > ownload for an upgrade if they did. > > > > That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an > > error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (c

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >Confirm > >used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries > >appear within gedit. > > What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed > items and did not recognize anything to change th

Re: how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:51:59 -0500 "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: >is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how *is* it > used these days? surely things have changed somewhat since 2004, > although the general concepts of the FHS are still totally valid. > > rday > Witin Fedora, @d

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 09:02 PM, Edward M wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 & f19, these

how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.

2013-12-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
while i appreciate the formalization of the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS), it's certainly been a while since it's been updated: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how *is* it used these days? surely things have changed somewhat since 2004

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 03:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'prefer

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread fedora
Did you insert the RESUME disk (i.e. your swap partition) into your linux statement in the grub menu? e,g, linux /vmlinuz-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64 root=UUID=722d9f6f-867b-4c04-a340-ba3caa23c42f ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 vconsole.keymap=sg rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 resume=UUID=ec23581a-b819

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. > > That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an > error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct > me if I'm wrong but there is something like mass rebuild in

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.12.2013 07:46, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/18/2013 10:42 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> Off a fresh install of F20 because upgrade did not work spectacularly, >> I noticed that there are a number of F19 packages (including some from >> rpmfusion) on my machine. > > That just means that there's not

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course > >> since I skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues > >>

Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I > got the following error doing a yum update: > > Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) > Requires: libopts.so.25 > You could try using

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 01:16:03 -0600 Ranjan Maitra wrote: which is what would happen if we just had a rolling > release model > That was argued to death on @devel it lost -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:32:44 +0100 "M. Fioretti" wrote: > This is why, while being perfectly aware that Fedora 17 is > unsupported, that even those other packages may stop working etc.. > I'd really like to know what, exactly, makes gmvault fail in that > way, on that system. > Fedora 17 has py

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl >> hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually >> ended up doing a reboot and going to

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hello, > > I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl > hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually > ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. Make sure you have enough swap space.

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I >> skipped f18 & f19, these may be 'old' issues >> >> So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wr