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Subject: [Test-Announce] PSA: Use fedup 0.8 for upgrades to Fedora 20! (was
Re: Should a working fedup in Fedora N's stable repository be a release
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On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/17/2013 06:34 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
>> I tried upgrading from Fedora 19 to 20. When the System Upgrade task
>> starts I get a failure around /run/initramfs (it moves fast). Then it
>> boots back to Fedora 19. Any thoughts on how to debug
On Dec 18, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 12/17/2013 10:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>> I made a DVD and ran
>>
>> fedup --device --network 20
>
>> Anyone else have a similar problem?
> I am not having your problem but a similiar one.
>
> Here on one system, after having run fe
On 12/17/2013 10:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
I made a DVD and ran
fedup --device --network 20
Anyone else have a similar problem?
I am not having your problem but a similiar one.
Here on one system, after having run fedup on f19, when rebooting for
upgrade, the "upgrade system" starts, b
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> [ 118.522477] PM: Syncing filesystems ... done.
> [ 118.986063] Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.005 seconds) done.
> [ 119.045554] Freezing remaining freezable tasks ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds)
> done.
> [ 119.689884] PM: suspe
Hi,
I did an upgrade from F19 to F20 on three machines (2 laptops and 1
desktop). For one laptop and the desktop, things went smoothly -- no
complaints: I used yum/fedora-upgrade.
For the other, while upgrading, the X crashed and there
were comments about journald, bluetooth etc (not sure if thi
On 12/17/2013 06:34 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
I tried upgrading from Fedora 19 to 20. When the System Upgrade task
starts I get a failure around /run/initramfs (it moves fast). Then it
boots back to Fedora 19. Any thoughts on how to debug?
There are several threads on this at fedoraforum.org.
I tried upgrading from Fedora 19 to 20. When the System Upgrade task
starts I get a failure around /run/initramfs (it moves fast). Then it
boots back to Fedora 19. Any thoughts on how to debug?
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:44:44 -0500
Neal Becker wrote:
> Running f20. I see lots of these messages:
>
> Dec 17 20:40:56 nbecker1 dbus-daemon: dbus[562]: [system] Activation
> via systemd failed for unit
> 'dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service': Unit dbus-
> org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.se
OK, X was working well on my Samsung TV because at some point
they introduced a "quirk" that informed the world that
the idiots at Samsung set the size of the TV to 160x90
just to get the aspect ratio right in the EDID info, so
Xorg.0.log says things like this:
[ 4.694] (II) Quirked EDID physi
Running f20. I see lots of these messages:
Dec 17 20:40:56 nbecker1 dbus-daemon: dbus[562]: [system] Activation via
systemd
failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service': Unit dbus-
org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
Dec 17 20:40:56 n
On 12/12/2013 11:59 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
> Is there someone to email to for a suggestion for improving Libre
> office? It would sure be nice if the program did a grammar check and
> made suggestions on how to improve one's document. I haven't used MS
> Word for as long as I've used Linux, and
On 17 December 2013 20:43, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/17/2013 12:32 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>>
>> People with the time, resources and
>> inclination are more than welcome to run beta.
>
> And, as far as running beta goes, I have the time and the resources, but not
> the inclination.
Yes, I was trying
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> I'm interested in a replacement for cron which would allow me to run
> various cron jobs on demand, and mark them as having been run, so they
> won't be run again from the schedule. Looking through the Fedora
> repository, I noticed whenj
On 17 December 2013 20:28, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
>> On 12/17/2013 11:57 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>> Joe, if I must justify my actions, and I question that, there's no "big
>>> rush" it's just another form of amusement for me.
>>
>> No, you don't nee
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:23:47 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there a qmake package for fedora?
> > I found stuff for windows but nothing for linux!
>
>
> # repoquery --whatprovides /usr/bin/qmake-qt4
> qt-devel-1:4.8.4-
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256
On 12/17/2013 12:05 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> I have been gradually updating my Fedora servers from a variety of
> releases ranging to F14 to F18 to more current versions. In order
> to do these as in-place updates rather than re-installs (which
> s
Dear Folks,
I have installed Fedora 20 on an iMac alongside Mac OS 10.5.8, and it
works fine, except for the grub2 bugs 903937, 893179, 904668, and most
problematic, the unexpected appearance of plymouthd clearing the
screen, and putting a fedora booting-up image in the middle of the
screen. Thi
On 12/17/2013 12:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Fedora doesn't magically get more stable. It's due to testing, bug reporting,
and triaging those bugs, much of which is done by volunteers. The more testers,
the better the coverage, the more bugs are found before release. The stability
depends in la
Hi
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>
> ufraw-gimp-0.19.2-10.fc19.x86_64 requires cfitsio-3.340-1.fc19.x86_64
> gnome-shell-extension-xrandr-indicator-3.8.4-1.fc19.noarch requires
> gnome-shell-extension-common-3.8.4-1.fc19.noarch
> Continue with the upgrade at your o
I wiped out the failed fedup (deleted stuff from grub.con and /var/tmp/)
and tried again with fedup from updates-testing. This time, I got errors
after fedup ran:
WARNING: problems were encountered during transaction test:
broken dependencies
libreoffice-pdfimport-1:4.1.3.2-12.fc19.x86_64 re
On 17/12/13 14:22, Chris Murphy wrote:
Check commonbugs, in particular this one pertaining to pre-release installation
/root permissions:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#.2Froot_permissions_incorrect_on_pre-release_installations
Chris Murphy
Ok, I changed the permissions as sugg
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:38:49 -0500
Bob Goodwin wrote:
> What do I do with a Fedora-20 beta install to update it?
yum or dnf update it.
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I'm interested in a replacement for cron which would allow me to run
various cron jobs on demand, and mark them as having been run, so they
won't be run again from the schedule. Looking through the Fedora
repository, I noticed whenjobs, which looks like it may do the job (no
pun intended). The do
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 17/12/13 13:49, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:38:49 -0500
>> Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>
>>> What do I do with a Fedora-20 beta install to update it? It was
>>> updated early this morning and I suspect it is now the equivalent of
>
On 12/17/2013 10:48 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
As I said I updated it around 04:00 this morning before the official
release time so it would seem it whould be updated to the max.
Why be in such a hurry to upgrade? Is being an early adopter that
important to you? On the first day or so of a new
Hello,
Is there a qmake package for fedora?
I found stuff for windows but nothing for linux!
Thank.
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On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> ah, and doing "virsh shutdown f20" blanks the console of the VM,
> but leaves the VMM displaying "f20 Running". so "virsh shutdown"
> isn't even shutting down the VM properly.
Urgh. I think this is a bug getting the external shutdown me
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> So that's consistent with what you're seeing I think. I got sick of the
> user@0.service bug causing delays and formed the habit of using virsh
> destroy. Looks like a totally separate bug here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1
On 17/12/13 13:49, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:38:49 -0500
Bob Goodwin wrote:
What do I do with a Fedora-20 beta install to update it? It was
updated early this morning and I suspect it is now the equivalent of
the new release.
You will need to do a 'yum distro-sync' or re-enabl
On 12/17/2013 11:16 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
If you do it within the VM, what result do you get with 'poweroff'? systemd
maps init 0 to poweroff, as of course there is no init with systemd, but it
maintains compatibility with init scripts so I expect init 0 to work the same
as poweroff.
I don
Quoting Chris Murphy :
On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
Quoting Chris Murphy :
On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day
wrote:
not sure what list would be appropriate for this but i'll start here.
currently running RHEL 6.5 on a 64-bit laptop, and installe
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:38:49 -0500
Bob Goodwin wrote:
> What do I do with a Fedora-20 beta install to update it? It was
> updated early this morning and I suspect it is now the equivalent of
> the new release.
>
> Will I have problems with yum updates?
>
> Presently it shows: [bobg@box10 ~]$ un
On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 15:04 -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> I made a DVD and ran
>
> fedup --device --network 20
>
> Everything went OK until I rebooted and selected the fedup upgrade.
> After thrashing around for a while, the system went into emergency mode,
> unable to find a file system.
>
> R
On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> Quoting Chris Murphy :
>
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> not sure what list would be appropriate for this but i'll start here.
>>> currently running RHEL 6.5 on a 64-bit laptop, and installed a new
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>
> Urgh. I think this is a bug getting the external shutdown message passed into
> the VM. So this might mean setting up the VM with a serial device, and using
> virsh console so that even if it gets networking in the VM all shutdown, you
Hi,
I have a question.
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02:30AM -0500, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
>
> == No Default Sendmail, Syslog ==
>
> In the interests of paring down services that are generally not used
> on desktop systems, Fedora 20 removes and replaces some services that
> many users find unneces
What do I do with a Fedora-20 beta install to update it? It was updated
early this morning and I suspect it is now the equivalent of the new
release.
Will I have problems with yum updates?
Presently it shows: [bobg@box10 ~]$ uname -a
Linux box10 3.11.10-300.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Nov 29 19:16:
On 17/12/13 13:40, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:38:49 -0500
Bob Goodwin wrote:
What do I do with a Fedora-20 beta install to update it?
yum or dnf update it.
[root@box10 bobg]# yum update
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
No packages marked for update
So I can co
I made a DVD and ran
fedup --device --network 20
Everything went OK until I rebooted and selected the fedup upgrade.
After thrashing around for a while, the system went into emergency mode,
unable to find a file system.
Rebooted and tried again with the same result.
I was able to reboot back
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> And, as far as running beta goes, I have the time and the resources, but not
> the inclination. Cleaning up after an upgrade hung, or otherwise failed so
> that I don't have to do a complete re-install and figure out what packages I
> forgot t
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there a qmake package for fedora?
> I found stuff for windows but nothing for linux!
# repoquery --whatprovides /usr/bin/qmake-qt4
qt-devel-1:4.8.4-19.fc19.i686
qt-devel-1:4.8.4-19.fc19.x86_64
qt-devel-1:4.8.5-10.fc19.x86_64
On 12/17/2013 12:32 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
In fact by definition it's people running pre-release for whatever
reason who are doing the testing! And even if you don't want, or don't
think you're wanted, to fill out test matrices, you can still provide
feedback on individual packages. People with th
I am running Mate (and Cinnamon) on Fedora 19...and lately
noticed these errors in my .xsession-errors file when I am in Mate
Does anyone know what's behind them ?
mate-session[2557]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file
/home/frank/.config/autostart/sealertauto.desktop: Key file does not
Quoting Chris Murphy :
On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
not sure what list would be appropriate for this but i'll start here.
currently running RHEL 6.5 on a 64-bit laptop, and installed a new
fedora 20 VM using the Virtual Machine Manager -- seemed to work fine,
f20 ca
On 17/12/13 14:25, Joe Zeff wrote:
Why be in such a hurry to upgrade? Is being an early adopter that
important to you? On the first day or so of a new release, the repos
are going to be slammed, just as the MS servers are on Patch Tuesday.
And, of course, there's always the few (we hope) bugs
On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> Quoting Joe Zeff :
>
>> On 12/17/2013 11:16 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> If you do it within the VM, what result do you get with 'poweroff'? systemd
>>> maps init 0 to poweroff, as of course there is no init with systemd, but it
>>> maint
On 12/17/2013 11:57 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Joe, if I must justify my actions, and I question that, there's no "big
rush" it's just another form of amusement for me.
No, you don't need to justify your actions; if you find it amusing to be
an early adopter and deal with all of the last-minute oo
On 17 December 2013 19:57, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 17/12/13 14:25, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>> Why be in such a hurry to upgrade? Is being an early adopter that
>> important to you? On the first day or so of a new release, the repos are
>> going to be slammed, just as the MS servers are on Patch Tuesd
Quoting Joe Zeff :
On 12/17/2013 11:16 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
If you do it within the VM, what result do you get with 'poweroff'?
systemd maps init 0 to poweroff, as of course there is no init with
systemd, but it maintains compatibility with init scripts so I
expect init 0 to work the sa
On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/17/2013 11:57 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> Joe, if I must justify my actions, and I question that, there's no "big
>> rush" it's just another form of amusement for me.
>
> No, you don't need to justify your actions; if you find it amusing to be
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On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> not sure what list would be appropriate for this but i'll start here.
> currently running RHEL 6.5 on a 64-bit laptop, and installed a new
> fedora 20 VM using the Virtual Machine Manager -- seemed to work fine,
> f20 came up, looks good
I have been gradually updating my Fedora servers from a variety of
releases ranging to F14 to F18 to more current versions. In order to do
these as in-place updates rather than re-installs (which saves many
headaches) I have had to do this gradually. Most are now running F19
with one "pioneer" at
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Greetings!
We can say with great certainty
not sure what list would be appropriate for this but i'll start here.
currently running RHEL 6.5 on a 64-bit laptop, and installed a new
fedora 20 VM using the Virtual Machine Manager -- seemed to work fine,
f20 came up, looks good, but now i want to shut it down, so from the
f20 console, i sel
Please see:
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Hi Gang:
For the last few upgrades / updates, I've been getting warnings such as are
at the bottom of the output; what do they mean? Should I ignore them?
setting up repos...
adobe-linux-x86_64
| 951 B 00:00:00
default-installrepo/metalink
I just upgrade from a fresh install of F18 to 20 on my laptop(64bit) and
would like to start using gnome-documents. (fedup worked great btw) My
current setup seems to only be syncing one-way(local->Google). Is that the
expected result or do I have to enable two-way somewhere?
Thanks, Phil
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Robert P. J. Day crashcourse.ca> writes:
>as i remember it, new fedora releases typically become available
> mid to late morning of the release date, but i checked one of my
> common canadian mirrors and there it is (DVD image, checksum,
> netinst.iso), but the last modified date of all of th
as i remember it, new fedora releases typically become available
mid to late morning of the release date, but i checked one of my
common canadian mirrors and there it is (DVD image, checksum,
netinst.iso), but the last modified date of all of that is
back on dec 12.
would that actually be the
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