Re: SQL Issue (Request Closed)

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Dwiggins
On 7/9/2013 11:24 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 07/09/2013 01:23 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 09/07/13 20:11, Fernando Cassia wrote: And no, I won't engage in a flame war, so I'll stop this here. No you won't you just start it. But, to get back to the OP's question -- which didn't seem to get m

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/9/2013 11:44 PM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 07/10/2013 11:48 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent: +1 I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail, and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with the community. Live

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 07/10/2013 11:48 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent: >> +1 >> >> I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail, >> and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with >> the community. Live and let live for the common go

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Roger
On 07/10/2013 04:18 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent: +1 I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail, and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with the community. Live and let live for the common good, I would s

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/9/2013 11:18 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent: +1 I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail, and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with the community. Live and let live for the common good, I would say

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent: > +1 > > I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail, > and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with > the community. Live and let live for the common good, I would say. -10 I'm sick of his b

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 July 2013, inode0 sent: > The problem here from my perspective is that Harald was put into an > awkward position without any reason that I can see on the thread > cited. I don't think it happened lightly. And he has shown a continual predilection to behave the same way.

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 07/10/2013 06:40 AM, Greg Woodbury wrote: > On 07/09/2013 08:59 PM, Edik Landaveri wrote: >> Condolences & prayers for his family in these moments. > This is sad news indeed for Durham/Duke and Red Hat. > > I could never figure out how Seth managed to find the time for all > the things he did a

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread Dick Roark
R ​est in peace, Seth. ​ On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:29 AM, staticsafe wrote: > > http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ > > May he rest in peace. > -- > staticsafe > O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asc

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 07/09/2013 11:43 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > On 07/09/2013 01:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> On 7/9/2013 10:19 AM, Matthew J. Roth wrote: >>> >>> I agree completely. Harald's posts are among the best on this list >>> in terms of >>> their technical content. It's more disruptive that

Re: PulseAudio in restricted X environment

2013-07-09 Thread Anthony Messina
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 04:01:47 PM Eric Viseur wrote: > I'm currently working on a virtualization project using F18. One of the use > cases is booting on the multi-user systemd target, then starting the Spice > client in a very restricted X environment by simply issuing > > $ xinit /usr/bin/sp

Re: PulseAudio in restricted X environment

2013-07-09 Thread Rex Dieter
Eric Viseur wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently working on a virtualization project using F18. One of the > use cases is booting on the multi-user systemd target, then starting the > Spice client in a very restricted X environment by simply issuing > > *$ xinit /usr/bin/spicec (some parameters)* >

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread Greg Woodbury
On 07/09/2013 08:59 PM, Edik Landaveri wrote: > Condolences & prayers for his family in these moments. This is sad news indeed for Durham/Duke and Red Hat. I could never figure out how Seth managed to find the time for all the things he did and all the email he answered. I will miss him. P.S. Ol

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread Edik Landaveri
Condolences & prayers for his family in these moments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask aw

Re: networking - fail2ban will not start on some installs (x64)

2013-07-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/09/13 20:16, Cristian Sava wrote: > > Yes, you're right. Thank you for the fix. > Why selinux is not complaining with an AVC? > Problem is now fixed in selinux-policy-3.12.1-62.fc19. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=432416 To get the early download. -- The only thing

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 04:29:02PM -0400, staticsafe wrote: > http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ > > May he rest in peace. Sad news indeed. My condolences. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 05:27 PM, staticsafe wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:16:58PM -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: >> Oh! ok.that explains it! So then theoretically I should be able to >> use the fedup-cli command and upgrade my system, without having anything >> change except the versions of t

F19 x86_64 Live DVD

2013-07-09 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
The downloaded iso image for the Live DVD passes CHECKSUM just fine, but the DVD won't boot on my ThinkPad W700. The error message says "No valid operating system". Both Installation DVD and NetInstall CD will boot just fine. Does this sound familiar to anyone? --Doc Savage Fairview Heights IL

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread Joe Klemmer
T_POL wrote: >Sad News. >RIP > >On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:29:02 -0400 >staticsafe wrote: > >> >http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ >> >> May he rest in peace. Oh shit! I lost touch with him a couple years ago but was

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread T_POL
Sad News. RIP On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:29:02 -0400 staticsafe wrote: > http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ > > May he rest in peace. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subs

Re: Urgent network help needed

2013-07-09 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/08/2013 02:00 PM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive: I am away from home. My wife at home cannot access the internet with her laptop. I suspect the problem is in the home server I am responsible for. In brief, the internet can be accessed from the CentOS-6.4 server. H

Re: Urgent network help needed

2013-07-09 Thread Bill Davidsen
Timothy Murphy wrote: I am away from home. My wife at home cannot access the internet with her laptop. I suspect the problem is in the home server I am responsible for. In brief, the internet can be accessed from the CentOS-6.4 server. Her laptop accesses a WiFi router which is connected to the

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/09/2013 02:19 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: In defence of Reindl, I don't see anything wrong with emphasizing words. This particular posting did not strike me as "violent and aggressive", and I didn't see any profanity in it, let alone "excessive profanity". And, listing only the emphasized w

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread staticsafe
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:16:58PM -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > Oh! ok.that explains it! So then theoretically I should be able to > use the fedup-cli command and upgrade my system, without having anything > change except the versions of the applications installed on my > systemrig

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/09/2013 02:02 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 07/09/2013 02:46 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: What I want to know is, what does fedup do if, as in my case, Gnome isn't installed? Don't know that. Sorry. Frédéric Doesn't it kind of "put" it there?...as a default?...or will it configure some

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> *large* >> *but* >> *serious* >> *ifÜ >> *and* you have rate-controls *and then* >> *pretty sure* >> *really serious* > > Reindl, > > Please understand that your use of the English language comes across as > violent and

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 05:06 PM, Temlakos wrote: > On 07/09/2013 05:04 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: >> On 07/09/2013 03:08 PM, Temlakos wrote: >>> On 07/09/2013 03:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/09/2013 11:45 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: >> So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 04:29 PM, staticsafe wrote: > http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ > > May he rest in peace. Deepest condolences to his family! God bless them all! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Temlakos
On 07/09/2013 05:04 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 07/09/2013 03:08 PM, Temlakos wrote: On 07/09/2013 03:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/09/2013 11:45 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get a different session and have it automatically be there

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 03:08 PM, Temlakos wrote: > On 07/09/2013 03:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 07/09/2013 11:45 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get a different session and have it automatically be there when its done?...like XFCE?...or

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 03:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/09/2013 11:45 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: >>> So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get a >>> different >>> session and have it automatically be there when its done?...like >>> XFCE?...or MATE?... >> >> no, it's just the first time. Th

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 02:46 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: >> What I want to know is, what does fedup do if, as in my case, Gnome isn't >> installed? > Don't know that. Sorry. > Frédéric Doesn't it kind of "put" it there?...as a default?...or will it configure some sort of interface so that you can install it? O

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 02:45 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: >> So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get a different >> session and have it automatically be there when its done?...like >> XFCE?...or MATE?... > no, it's just the first time. Then it remembers your choice. > Frédéric Oh!ok...c

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 02:27 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: > Hi, > >> On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 10:58 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: >>> Once in a while I see people suggesting the disabling of IPv6 to cope >>> with some issue. >>> >>> My I _kindly_ ask not to do that anymore? >>> Even though such trick migh

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Tom Killian
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 20:46:58 +0200, wrote: >> What I want to know is, what does fedup do if, as in my case, Gnome isn't >> installed? > > Don't know that. Sorry. > Frédéric I fedup'd (18->19) a system with only mate installed and it worked perfectly. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproje

[OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-09 Thread staticsafe
http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ May he rest in peace. -- staticsafe O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. Please don't CC! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/09/2013 12:25 PM, Temlakos wrote: Maybe you still haven't used fedup yet. No. There were so many horror stories about going from F17 to 18, either by fedup or fresh install that I've kept to 17. Now, I'm seeing very few threads about failed upgrades to 19 so I'm going to upgrade my l

Re: SQL Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Patrick Lists
On 07/09/2013 08:11 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM, James Hogarth wrote: With regards to your suggestion that would result in 5.6 which is a potential marked change from 5.5 - even more so than mariadb which is why it was kept at 5.5 this release... If you read th

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Temlakos
On 07/09/2013 03:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/09/2013 12:08 PM, Temlakos wrote: It does, actually. It upgrades whatever packages you have installed. That is, /if/ you use a straight network upgrade. I think the mistake someone made was to upgrade from .iso as well as network. Oh, good. I rem

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/09/2013 12:08 PM, Temlakos wrote: It does, actually. It upgrades whatever packages you have installed. That is, /if/ you use a straight network upgrade. I think the mistake someone made was to upgrade from .iso as well as network. Oh, good. I remember that the last time I used the old p

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Temlakos
On 07/09/2013 03:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/09/2013 11:45 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get a different session and have it automatically be there when its done?...like XFCE?...or MATE?... no, it's just the first time. Then it remembers yo

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/09/2013 11:45 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get a different session and have it automatically be there when its done?...like XFCE?...or MATE?... no, it's just the first time. Then it remembers your choice. Frédéric But if it's an upgr

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Frédéric Bron
> What I want to know is, what does fedup do if, as in my case, Gnome isn't > installed? Don't know that. Sorry. Frédéric -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fe

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Frédéric Bron
> So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get a different > session and have it automatically be there when its done?...like > XFCE?...or MATE?... no, it's just the first time. Then it remembers your choice. Frédéric -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-09 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, > On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 10:58 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: >> Once in a while I see people suggesting the disabling of IPv6 to cope >> with some issue. >> >> My I _kindly_ ask not to do that anymore? >> Even though such trick might take away the symptoms for you and me, it >> is a tech

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Stephen Berg (Contractor)
I had one good and two not so good experiences. At home going from 18 to 19 went real smooth, no issues. At work one 17 to 19 and one 18 to 19 both had issues that I eventually muddled my way through. Both of those were likely due to my use of a locally hosted mirror of the various repos. S

Re: SQL Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/09/2013 01:23 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > On 09/07/13 20:11, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> And no, I won't engage in a flame war, so I'll stop this here. > > No you won't you just start it. > But, to get back to the OP's question -- which didn't seem to get much on-topic love -- no, there's no p

Re: SQL Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 09/07/13 20:11, Fernando Cassia wrote: And no, I won't engage in a flame war, so I'll stop this here. No you won't you just start it. -- Erik Concordia parvæ res crescunt discordia maximæ dilabuntur -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/09/2013 11:19 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: So then out of curiosity mind you..there's no way to get a different session and have it automatically be there when its done?...like XFCE?...or MATE?... What I want to know is, what does fedup do if, as in my case, Gnome isn't installed

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 02:17 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: >> I've used fedup on 4 very different machines, >> and it has worked faultlessly. > Thanks for reporting. I was afraid of upgrading (F18->F19) and would > have waited months. After your message, I did it and it worked > perfectly well: > 1. I downloaded

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Frédéric Bron
> I've used fedup on 4 very different machines, > and it has worked faultlessly. Thanks for reporting. I was afraid of upgrading (F18->F19) and would have waited months. After your message, I did it and it worked perfectly well: 1. I downloaded the DVD iso: Fedora-19-x86_64-DVD.iso 2. fedup --iso

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/09/2013 01:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 7/9/2013 10:19 AM, Matthew J. Roth wrote: >> >> I agree completely. Harald's posts are among the best on this list >> in terms of >> their technical content. It's more disruptive that they're out of >> sequence due >> to moderation than that h

Re: SQL Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > With regards to your suggestion that would result in 5.6 which is a potential > marked change from 5.5 - even more so than mariadb which is why it was kept > at 5.5 this release... If you read the relevant threads in -devel you can > fol

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/9/2013 10:19 AM, Matthew J. Roth wrote: I agree completely. Harald's posts are among the best on this list in terms of their technical content. It's more disruptive that they're out of sequence due to moderation than that his tone can sometimes come across as aggressive. If people don't

OT: Fedora Freedmedia Canada

2013-07-09 Thread Frank Murphy
Hi, Looking for some volunteers for Freemedia in Canada: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia?rd=Distribution/FreeMedia#Join_us -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Nitrogen

2013-07-09 Thread Frank McCormick
On 07/08/2013 10:54 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 22:17:07 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: My favorite wallpaper setter Nitrogen has been orphanedso it's unavailable from the repositories. I run IceWm sometimes...and switch backgrounds quite often and nitrogen was

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Matthew J. Roth
inode0 wrote: > > As someone who reads most of discussions on this and many other lists > I largely share Harald's feeling that a relatively small number of > transgressions have clouded our perception of reality and we forget a > great many helpful posts. I agree completely. Harald's posts are

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Temlakos
On 07/09/2013 08:27 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Gary Stainburn wrote: I did my laptop F18 -> F19 this morning. It took 1 hour 40 which was longer than my desktop but still okay as I just left it to it, and the only input required was the reboot. Is this the whole kaboosh, or the bit after re-boo

Re: Resume problem

2013-07-09 Thread Tanguy Eric
Le 08/07/2013 17:54, D. Hugh Redelmeier a écrit : | From: Tanguy Eric | The problem was in f18 and now also in f19. The pc seems to go fine in | hibernate but when i try to resume it seems to try to resume and after few | seconds reboot normally. I tried to activate the pm_trace functionality w

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

2013-07-09 Thread Diego Vargas
Thanks all for your responses! Dale: What the grep '' /sys/class/input/event*/device/name does is print the name of anything connected to the computer. This is with my usb mouse connected, and obviosly it disappears when it's disconnected. /sys/class/input/event0/device/name:Power Button /sys/clas

RE: yum groups

2013-07-09 Thread Pittigher, Raymond - ES
> After a fedup to version 19 I no longer can add or remove groups. If I try to > remove a desktop or even do a group list I get this message: > > yum group list > Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit > There is no installed groups file. > Available environment groups: > GNOME Desktop

Re: yum groups

2013-07-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/09/2013 05:27 PM, Pittigher, Raymond - ES wrote: After a fedup to version 19 I no longer can add or remove groups. If I try to remove a desktop or even do a group list I get this message: yum group list Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit There is no installed groups file. Avail

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
Wow! well this is great news for me, as I was holding off upgrading for fear of something going wrong. And bear in mind I have a full backup of my system, it's just that I have scarce time to babysit a full restore...but I guess I'll give it an attempt this coming weekend over a cup of Earl Grey!

yum groups

2013-07-09 Thread Pittigher, Raymond - ES
After a fedup to version 19 I no longer can add or remove groups. If I try to remove a desktop or even do a group list I get this message: yum group list Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit There is no installed groups file. Available environment groups: GNOME Desktop KDE Plasma W

Re: looking for xv.

2013-07-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 07:35:21AM -0700, William Mattison wrote: > On my old Redhat-9 system, I had this great tool "xv" which I used quite > often to "colorize" raw weather satellite images.  It made doing that very > easy, especially with the three GUIs that let me graphically vary the red, > gr

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

2013-07-09 Thread James Hogarth
> For the curious, I'm not doing this to enhance security, and yes, port > 23456 was just for illustrative purposes only. That said, I don't think > it is too harmful either. > Indeed for various reasons my daemon runs on 443 > There was a rather detailed reply explaining the difference between >

Re: SQL Issue

2013-07-09 Thread James Hogarth
> > No change, except from the FUD... Which in of itself FUD... Read the feature proposal or the release notes... To install the oracle community mysql from the fedora repos use the package name community-mysql but I would recommend following the 'default' mysql of mariadb... The change was not

Re: PulseAudio in restricted X environment

2013-07-09 Thread Eric Viseur
Sadly the daemon refuses to start. When started from console without the log-level=0, the daemon seems to start, but I still can't get any sound out of the box. Eric Viseur 2013/7/9 Reindl Harald > > > Am 09.07.2013 16:01, schrieb Eric Viseur: > > I'm currently working on a virtualization pro

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 09.07.2013 14:15, schrieb Jared K. Smith: >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Reindl Harald > > wrote: >> >> it does not matter because on this list you are even moderated >> and banned because off-list

Re: looking for xv.

2013-07-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/09/13 22:35, William Mattison wrote: > (Fedora-18; 64-bit; all desktops) > > On my old Redhat-9 system, I had this great tool "xv" which I used quite > often to "colorize" raw weather satellite images. It made doing that very > easy, especially with the three GUIs that let me graphically v

looking for xv.

2013-07-09 Thread William Mattison
(Fedora-18; 64-bit; all desktops) On my old Redhat-9 system, I had this great tool "xv" which I used quite often to "colorize" raw weather satellite images.  It made doing that very easy, especially with the three GUIs that let me graphically vary the red, green, and blue intensities independen

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2013 14:15, schrieb Jared K. Smith: > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > it does not matter because on this list you are even moderated > and banned because off-list mails which are even not contain > any reference to a

Re: PulseAudio in restricted X environment

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2013 16:01, schrieb Eric Viseur: > I'm currently working on a virtualization project using F18. One of the use > cases is booting on the multi-user > systemd target, then starting the Spice client in a very restricted X > environment by simply issuing > > /$ xinit /usr/bin/spicec (so

Re: networking - fail2ban will not start on some installs (x64)

2013-07-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/09/13 22:00, Ed Greshko wrote: > Heading over to bugzilla now. This appears to be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975695 The same error message noted in this thread are in the bugzilla. I think there is no need create a new one. -- The only thing worse than a poorly ask

PulseAudio in restricted X environment

2013-07-09 Thread Eric Viseur
Hi, I'm currently working on a virtualization project using F18. One of the use cases is booting on the multi-user systemd target, then starting the Spice client in a very restricted X environment by simply issuing *$ xinit /usr/bin/spicec (some parameters)* Everything works fine, except the so

Re: networking - fail2ban will not start on some installs (x64)

2013-07-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/09/13 21:51, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On 07/09/2013 08:24 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 07/09/13 20:16, Cristian Sava wrote: > >> Yes, you're right. Thank you for the fix. Why selinux is not complaining > >> with an AVC? > > > I do not know the answer to that. I'll see if I can figure it out,

Re: networking - fail2ban will not start on some installs (x64)

2013-07-09 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/09/2013 08:24 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/09/13 20:16, Cristian Sava wrote: >> Yes, you're right. Thank you for the fix. Why selinux is not complaining >> with an AVC? > > I do not know the answer to that. I'll see if I can figure it out, and

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

2013-07-09 Thread Amadeus W.M.
This thread has slipped into a security debate, but I certainly didn't mean to start a flame war. For the curious, I'm not doing this to enhance security, and yes, port 23456 was just for illustrative purposes only. That said, I don't think it is too harmful either. There was a rather detail

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

2013-07-09 Thread Carlos "casep" Sepulveda
On 8 July 2013 22:11, Diego Vargas wrote: > Hi Dale, > > I think is being recognized. > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04f2:b307 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd > > This is the output of $(grep '' /sys/class/input/event*/device/name) > /sys/class/input/event0/device/name:Power Button > /sys/class/input/event

Re: [389-users] 389 directory server crash

2013-07-09 Thread Rich Megginson
On 07/09/2013 06:43 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote: Hi! We are having problems with some our 389-DS instances. They crash after receiving an update from the provider. After looking at the stack trace, I think this is https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47391 The crash happened twice after about a

Re: SQL Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > I did a test install of Fedora 19 on a spare machine and discovered that > MySQL is no longer part of the Distro being replaced by MariaDB. You can download and run MySQL Community Edition too http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/ latest is

Re: SQL Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/09/2013 07:38 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: > I did a test install of Fedora 19 on a spare machine and discovered that > MySQL is no longer part of the Distro being replaced by MariaDB. > > Has anyone tried to run WordPress in conjunction with MariaDB and if so > any problems. > > Thanks > Mike

Re: compatibility glibc in Fedora 19

2013-07-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/09/2013 01:35 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I have a DCP130C Brother printer+scanner that works perfectly under Linux with proprietary drivers supplied by the manufacturer, except that they require older glibc versions, which I can't seem to find in Fedora 19. rpm -Uvh --test brscan2-0.2.5-1.x86

SQL Issue

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Dwiggins
I did a test install of Fedora 19 on a spare machine and discovered that MySQL is no longer part of the Distro being replaced by MariaDB. Has anyone tried to run WordPress in conjunction with MariaDB and if so any problems. Thanks Mike D. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 13:27:09 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Gary Stainburn wrote: > > I did my laptop F18 -> F19 this morning. It took 1 hour 40 which was > > longer than my desktop but still okay as I just left it to it, and the > > only input required was the reboot. > > Is this the whole kaboosh, o

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

2013-07-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Gary Stainburn wrote: > I did my laptop F18 -> F19 this morning. It took 1 hour 40 which was > longer than my desktop but still okay as I just left it to it, and the > only input required was the reboot. Is this the whole kaboosh, or the bit after re-booting? It's the bit after re-booting (severa

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

2013-07-09 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Tuesday 09 July 2013 13:23:07 Tom Horsley wrote: > > With the new wonderful package selection non-choices, I've > pretty much decided the best way to go is to pick the > minimal install to get out of anaconda as soon as possible > and then use yum to install what I really need. When I did a Net

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

2013-07-09 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 15:16 -0500, Diego Vargas wrote: > No, what I've updated on Windows is the chipset. Which (supposedly) > only makes Windows to recognize parts of the hardware, like the LAN > card, the WiFi card and so forth. What I meant by exactly what you did, so someone else may be able t

Re: networking - fail2ban will not start on some installs (x64)

2013-07-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/09/13 20:16, Cristian Sava wrote: > Yes, you're right. Thank you for the fix. > Why selinux is not complaining with an AVC? I do not know the answer to that. I'll see if I can figure it out, and if not file a bugzilla. Welcome. Ed -- The only thing worse than a poorly asked question i

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

2013-07-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:07:30 -0400 Wade Hampton wrote: > I finally just increased the size of the VM to 10G, took the default > gnome desktop option, and let it run. I'll have to manually install > the development packages I need. With the new wonderful package selection non-choices, I've pretty

Re: networking - fail2ban will not start on some installs (x64)

2013-07-09 Thread Cristian Sava
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 18:52 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Well, I find one thing interesting. > > Notice the error message > > fail2ban-client[2804]: ERROR Directory /var/run/fail2ban exists but not > accessible for writing > > But, if you execute the command in the service file from the

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > it does not matter because on this list you are even moderated > and banned because off-list mails which are even not contain > any reference to a thread bounce dback by the receiver to the > list and additionally in CC to the uninvolved devel

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2013 10:58, schrieb j.witvl...@mindef.nl: > Hi all, > > Once in a while I see people suggesting the disabling of IPv6 to cope with > some issue. > > My I _kindly_ ask not to do that anymore? > Even though such trick might take away the symptoms for you and me, it is a > technical ove

Re: Anyone know dovecot?

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2013 13:52, schrieb Tom Horsley: > I keep getting this sort of garbage cluttering my logs: > > dovecot: master: Warning: /ada/denmark is no longer mounted. See > http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints: 1 Time(s) > > I have indeed seen the wiki page mentioned, and even > tried what it say

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2013 07:13, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 09.07.2013 02:46, schrieb lee: well, here you have to make a choice as often in life * learn to deal with "the networking part is extremely difficult" * take money in your hand and avoid this part >>> >>> None

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2013 02:46, schrieb lee: >> well, here you have to make a choice as often in life >> >> * learn to deal with "the networking part is extremely difficult" >> * take money in your hand and avoid this part > > None of these would solve the problem because I cannot clone my system. > None of

Re: Minor problem with Fedora 19

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2013 01:58, schrieb Frank McCormick: > I installed Fedora 19 recently but wasn't paying attention when setting up > the username > portion of the installation. As a result I had an abbreviated form of my full > name as a user name. > > So I used the system utility to change is to my p

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2013 00:39, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: >>> Besides, I don't find it easy at all to set one up because the >>> networking part is extremely difficult. >> >> using VMware Workstation it is trivial to >> get a VM running in it's own NAT network >> >> works out of the box > > An

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.07.2013 23:07, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 07/08/2013 01:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> Also, there is no need to send the same mail twice. I do not wish to >> argue with you further as this is not the first time you have been >> confronted about your behavior and I doubt it will be the la

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.07.2013 23:26, schrieb inode0: > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> *large* >>> *but* >>> *serious* >>> *ifÜ >>> *and* you have rate-controls *and then* >>> *pretty sure* >>> *really serious* >> >> Reindl, >> >> Pl

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