Re: Group minimal-environment doesn't exist

2013-07-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/03/2013 06:23 PM, Mark Haney wrote: Just updated one system to Fedora 19 using fedora-upgrade (which I saw on Paul Mellors blog and decided to try, it works great) but I"m seeing a weird error in yum now. When I do a yum update this is what I get: > [markh@augustus ffmpeg]$ sudo yum upda

F19 xfce bug or SL6 KVM bug?

2013-07-03 Thread David G . Miller
Just installed F19 as a KVM guest with Scientific Linux 6.4 as the host OS. Here's the oddity. The mouse cursor is invisible from the time the GUI comes until I start a terminal window. I can login with no problems since the login window gets focus on start up. I can make a reasonable guess at

Re: F18 -> F19 using fedup

2013-07-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/03/2013 04:57 PM, Steven Stern wrote: Once you see something like [1/2654] as it starts upgrading, you quickly get an idea that it might be lunch time. Or, if you do it as I plan to, bed time. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: F18 -> F19 using fedup

2013-07-03 Thread Temlakos
On 07/03/2013 07:57 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 07/03/2013 06:21 PM, Temlakos wrote: Did somebody ask how fedup would work out in a straight upgrade from F18 to F19? I just ran through it. For future reference: tell people how long it will take. About ten minutes to prepare... and then two an

Re: Booting

2013-07-03 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Jul 3, 2013 1:12 PM, "Richard Vickery" wrote: > Is there a way to reboot the computer while its stuck on "Starting GNOME Desktop Manager"? Usually by this point in the boot process you can press CTRL+ALT+F2 to get a console login. From there you can run ’reboot ’ to restart your system, or eve

Re: F18 -> F19 using fedup

2013-07-03 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/03/2013 06:21 PM, Temlakos wrote: > Did somebody ask how fedup would work out in a straight upgrade from F18 > to F19? > > I just ran through it. > > For future reference: tell people how long it will take. > > About ten minutes to prepare... > > and then two and a half hours to run the u

Re: F18 -> F19 using fedup

2013-07-03 Thread Roger
On 07/04/2013 09:34 AM, Luan Minh Pham wrote: On Wednesday, July 03, 2013 07:21:16 PM Temlakos wrote: For future reference: tell people how long it will take. About ten minutes to prepare... and then two and a half hours to run the upgrade. Patience. Patience. Patience. Just go grab a cup of

Re: psql on Fedora 19

2013-07-03 Thread Roger
Am 04.07.2013 00:58, schrieb Roger: I successfully fresh installed Fedora19 , works a treat, very good very fast operating system. Updated everything and installed rvm rails 4 and postgresql. Tryng to get into postgres with psql postgres postgres and I get "could not connect to server: No s

Re: yum delta problems

2013-07-03 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > When I was running f19 beta, I mostly ignored this, but I've > done a distro-sync now and the update I just did once again > got a slew of deltas do not match errors: FWIW I've noticed this too. > I can assure you, I am not manually modifying

Re: yum delta problems

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 16:23:27 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > Have you searched Bugzilla for yum related bugs to see if this has > already been reported? I can't find one that looks like this. There were some earlier ones about yum not downloading the whole rpm but just trying to rebuild from the delta o

Re: F18 -> F19 using fedup

2013-07-03 Thread Luan Minh Pham
On Wednesday, July 03, 2013 07:21:16 PM Temlakos wrote: > For future reference: tell people how long it will take. > > About ten minutes to prepare... > > and then two and a half hours to run the upgrade. > > Patience. Patience. Patience. Just go grab a cup of Java and do something else beside

Re: yum delta problems

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 07:28:13 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > They "work" finebut something is amiss to the point where yum can't > update using the delta. So.why not just reinstall them and affect a > "reset"? > > That's is what I would do Why? Yum already downloaded the rpm entire and

Re: yum delta problems

2013-07-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/04/13 07:25, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 07:09:41 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> If they are installed, and you don't know why or if you need themyou can >> always un-install. If you don't want to un-install them you can always "yum >> reinstall" them. > Of course they are

Re: yum delta problems

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 07:09:41 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > If they are installed, and you don't know why or if you need themyou can > always un-install. If you don't want to un-install them you can always "yum > reinstall" them. Of course they are installed - it wouldn't be trying to update th

Re: yum delta problems

2013-07-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/03/2013 03:33 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Should I file a bugzilla against yum (or something else)? Have you searched Bugzilla for yum related bugs to see if this has already been reported? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: htt

F18 -> F19 using fedup

2013-07-03 Thread Temlakos
Did somebody ask how fedup would work out in a straight upgrade from F18 to F19? I just ran through it. For future reference: tell people how long it will take. About ten minutes to prepare... and then two and a half hours to run the upgrade. Patience. Patience. Patience. Make sure the log

Re: yum delta problems

2013-07-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/04/13 06:33, Tom Horsley wrote: > When I was running f19 beta, I mostly ignored this, but I've > done a distro-sync now and the update I just did once again > got a slew of deltas do not match errors: Well, first of all, you're coming from a "beta" environment and you were "warned" about po

psql on Fedora 19

2013-07-03 Thread Roger
I successfully fresh installed Fedora19 , works a treat, very good very fast operating system. Updated everything and installed rvm rails 4 and postgresql. Tryng to get into postgres with psql postgres postgres and I get "could not connect to server: No such file or directory, Is teh server run

yum delta problems

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Horsley
When I was running f19 beta, I mostly ignored this, but I've done a distro-sync now and the update I just did once again got a slew of deltas do not match errors: Finishing delta rebuilds of 118 package(s) (222 M) delta does not match installed data==-] 2.9 MB/s | 96 MB 00:43 ETA del

Re: Cooperative Bug Isolation for Fedora 19 / x86_64 and i386

2013-07-03 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Hi Ben, I have installed the CBI - I hope that I can assist too. Thanks, Zoltan 2013/7/3 Ben Liblit : > The Cooperative Bug Isolation Project (CBI) is now available for Fedora 19 > on both x86_64 (64-bit) and i386 (32-bit) platforms. We currently offer > instrumented versions of Evolution, The

Re: Apple iTunes in Fedora

2013-07-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > If you need to play DRM-encumbered audio from their music store, > that's a different problem. > AFAIK Apple no longer support DRM on their music store, though one may want to use iTunes for other functions -- it's a bit of a kitchen sink

Re: Booting

2013-07-03 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 03.07.2013 22:32, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 03.07.2013 22:19, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: >> On 03.07.2013 20:30, Richard Vickery wrote: >>> Is there a way to reboot the computer while its stuck on "Starting GNOME >>> Desktop Manager"? >>> >> Yes, press the power button for a few seconds an

Re: Booting

2013-07-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.07.2013 22:19, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: > On 03.07.2013 20:30, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >> Is there a way to reboot the computer while its stuck on "Starting GNOME >> Desktop Manager"? >> > Yes, press the power button for a few seconds and then release it. This > should work on most

Re: Booting

2013-07-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/03/2013 01:17 PM, davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn,t work and if you haven't a reset button on the computer, pull the plug. And, if you're on a laptop, pull the battery. Back when I was doing tech support, I had that happen to a caller at least onc

Re: F19 : what happened to gnome-panel?

2013-07-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 03:10:50PM +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote: > Hi All, > > I just tried to upgrade from F18 -> F19 (using fedup). After the upgrade I > seem to have lost gnome-panel. It does not work anymore and no package of > that name can be found. > For me GNOME3 is only workable because I hav

Re: Booting

2013-07-03 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 03.07.2013 20:30, Richard Vickery wrote: > > Is there a way to reboot the computer while its stuck on "Starting > GNOME Desktop Manager"? > > > Yes, press the power button for a few seconds and then release it. This should work on most PCs and notebooks. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing

Re: Booting

2013-07-03 Thread davidschaak1
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn,t work and if you haven't a reset button on the computer, pull the plug. It may take a while to reboot. Ssh to the machine as a normal user, sudo reboot. (This is assuming the network is running.) Other than that, I know of no other way. Dave Sent from my BlackBerry®

Re: Blackberry / sd card

2013-07-03 Thread Richard Vickery
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM, wrote: > Sorry for the top. > > Winehq says the blackberry desktop does not work under any version of wine as > of 6 months ago. > > Blackberry desktop will install but not run. > > Dave > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Mobilicity > Man! That suck

Booting

2013-07-03 Thread Richard Vickery
Is there a way to reboot the computer while its stuck on "Starting GNOME Desktop Manager"? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_lis

Re: F19 Can't verify i386 DVD

2013-07-03 Thread Andre Robatino
Frank Murphy gmail.com> writes: > rushing again, I forgot to edit the CHECKSUM > to remove all but DVD line. grep DVD.iso$ *-CHECKSUM | sha256sum -c or grep .iso$ *-CHECKSUM | sha256sum -c if you want to check all listed ISOs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: f19 hopeless in a KVM with VNC display

2013-07-03 Thread poma
On 03.07.2013 15:05, Tom Horsley wrote: > I just installed a couple of virtual fedora 19 machines > (32 and 64 bit), and I get a GDM login screen, click my > user and type my password, and gnome-shell starts using > 94% of the CPU. > > Possibly it is trying to use the software GL to render > the s

Re: F19 Can't verify i386 DVD

2013-07-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 18:09:26 + (UTC) Andre Robatino wrote: > Frank Murphy gmail.com> writes: Fedora-19-i386-netinst.iso can't be found (since it's > not in your current directory). In other words, all is well. The > last two lines are standard warnings caused by the GPG signature (3 > lines

Re: F19 Can't verify i386 DVD

2013-07-03 Thread Andre Robatino
Frank Murphy gmail.com> writes: > sha256sum -c Fedora-19-i386-CHECKSUM > Fedora-19-i386-DVD.iso: OK > sha256sum: Fedora-19-i386-netinst.iso: No such file or directory > Fedora-19-i386-netinst.iso: FAILED open or read > sha256sum: WARNING: 20 lines are improperly formatted > sha256sum: WARNING: 1

Re: F19 Can't verify i386 DVD (typos)

2013-07-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 18:56:29 +0100 Frank Murphy wrote: Apologies for self-reply Hit's the enter early again If the media is ok, as it's says, why complain of formatting errors. Didn't see that on the others. -- Regards, Frank "When in doubt PANIC!" I check for new mail app. 20min www.frankly

F19 Can't verify i386 DVD

2013-07-03 Thread Frank Murphy
6 downloads over two boxes. Have tried torrents, Direct Download, also Downthemall Firefox plugin. Getting the following result, except for plugin which just says checksum doesn't match up. sha256sum -c Fedora-19-i386-CHECKSUM Fedora-19-i386-DVD.iso: OK sha256sum: Fedora-19-i386-netinst.iso: No

F18/F19 VPN issues with NetworkManager

2013-07-03 Thread Fedora User
Hello! I was using Fedora 17 x86_64 with NetworkManager vpnc and reinstalled Fedora 19. NM + vpnc does not seem to work anymore and here are the logs from syslog "Jul 3 21:11:44 localhost NetworkManager[423]: Starting VPN service 'vpnc'... Jul 3 21:11:44 localhost NetworkManager[423]: VPN se

Group minimal-environment doesn't exist

2013-07-03 Thread Mark Haney
Just updated one system to Fedora 19 using fedora-upgrade (which I saw on Paul Mellors blog and decided to try, it works great) but I"m seeing a weird error in yum now. When I do a yum update this is what I get: > [markh@augustus ffmpeg]$ sudo yum update Loaded plugins: langpacks, > refresh-packa

Re: R: Re: F19: after upgrading I cant't login from gdm

2013-07-03 Thread antonio montagnani
Stephen Gallagher ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 03/07/2013 17:33: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/2013 10:27 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: Andre Robatino ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 03/07/2013 11:46: antonio.montagnani alice.it ali

Re: R: Re: F19: after upgrading I cant't login from gdm

2013-07-03 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/2013 10:27 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: > Andre Robatino ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on > 03/07/2013 11:46: >> antonio.montagnani alice.it >> alice.it> writes: >> >>> that means that I have to install also Xcfe and/or kde

Re: F19 : what happened to gnome-panel?

2013-07-03 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/2013 09:10 AM, Jouk Jansen wrote: > Hi All, > > I just tried to upgrade from F18 -> F19 (using fedup). After the > upgrade I seem to have lost gnome-panel. It does not work anymore > and no package of that name can be found. For me GNOME3 is

Re: R: Re: F19: after upgrading I cant't login from gdm

2013-07-03 Thread antonio montagnani
Andre Robatino ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 03/07/2013 11:46: antonio.montagnani alice.it alice.it> writes: that means that I have to install also Xcfe and/or kde. Do you think that this could solve also the issue of Authentication failure when password is required inside

Re: F19 : what happened to gnome-panel?

2013-07-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 15:10:50 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote: Hi All, I just tried to upgrade from F18 -> F19 (using fedup). After the upgrade I seem to have lost gnome-panel. It does not work anymore and no package of that name can be found. For me GNOME3 is only workable because I have access

Alt F2 r

2013-07-03 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, After Alt F2 r, the gnome-terminal windows do not show up in the expected workspaces but in the workspace used to make the alt F2 r. This behavior is not always but usually after a few of the mentioned command. Am I the only person facing this glitch? Thank. ==

Re: f19 hopeless in a KVM with VNC display

2013-07-03 Thread Andre Robatino
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:10:35 + (UTC) > Andre Robatino wrote: > > > This is due to gdm > > being broken, so you need to use a different display manager. > > Weird that it is a gdm bug even though gnome shell is what is > spinning forever. I initially reporte

Re: f19 hopeless in a KVM with VNC display

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:10:35 + (UTC) Andre Robatino wrote: > This is due to gdm > being broken, so you need to use a different display manager. Weird that it is a gdm bug even though gnome shell is what is spinning forever. Anyway, my solution is to change the target to multiuser instead of g

Minimal environment doesn't exist error in yum - F19

2013-07-03 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just updated one system to Fedora 19 using fedora-upgrade (which I saw on Paul Mellors blog and decided to try, it works great) but I"m seeing a weird error in yum now. When I do a yum update this is what I get: > [markh@augustus ffmpeg]$ sudo yum up

F19 : what happened to gnome-panel?

2013-07-03 Thread Jouk Jansen
Hi All, I just tried to upgrade from F18 -> F19 (using fedup). After the upgrade I seem to have lost gnome-panel. It does not work anymore and no package of that name can be found. For me GNOME3 is only workable because I have access to the "old" panel which works at least as 10 times as efficient

Re: f19 hopeless in a KVM with VNC display

2013-07-03 Thread Andre Robatino
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > I just installed a couple of virtual fedora 19 machines > (32 and 64 bit), and I get a GDM login screen, click my > user and type my password, and gnome-shell starts using > 94% of the CPU. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=946964 . This is due to g

f19 hopeless in a KVM with VNC display

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Horsley
I just installed a couple of virtual fedora 19 machines (32 and 64 bit), and I get a GDM login screen, click my user and type my password, and gnome-shell starts using 94% of the CPU. Possibly it is trying to use the software GL to render the screen, but it will clearly never finish in a reasonabl

Re: lost cursor. [SOLVED]

2013-07-03 Thread William Mattison
Good morning, >(Fedora-18; 64-bit; all desktops) > >I have two 27-inch monitors on my system.  Occasionally, I "lose" the cursor.  >(ok, who's that that I hear snickering out there?!)  I recall years ago (two >jobs ago) on the Unix system at work, we had a tool called "xeyes" which >amounted t

Re: Apple iTunes in Fedora

2013-07-03 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/2013 02:53 AM, Thomas Tobian wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Any idea to install Apple iTunes in Fedora? Thank you for the > tips, > It would help to know which features about it you want. If you just want to sync music with an iPod, you might try j

Re: fedup f18->f19 going OK?

2013-07-03 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2013 07:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/03/13 07:34, Steven Stern wrote: >> On 07/02/2013 06:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 07/03/13 06:13, Steven Stern wrote: On 07/02/2013 04:27 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/03/13 04:32, Steven St

Installing Fedora 19

2013-07-03 Thread Roger
I'm just now installing Fedora 19 on a Dell1520 laptop I have never seen anything install so fast, it's brilliant as a fresh install. Everything seems very much faster so I can't wait to get my apps working and put it to work Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: R: Re: F19: after upgrading I cant't login from gdm

2013-07-03 Thread Andre Robatino
antonio.montagnani alice.it alice.it> writes: > that means that I have to install also Xcfe and/or kde. Do you think that this could solve also the issue of Authentication failure when password is required inside a pop-window.Could I run Gnome in fallback mode as in F18?? You don't have to inst

R: Re: F19: after upgrading I cant't login from gdm

2013-07-03 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
that means that I have to install also Xcfe and/or kde. Do you think that this could solve also the issue of Authentication failure when password is required inside a pop-window. Could I run Gnome in fallback mode as in F18?? Messaggio originale Da: robat...@fedoraproject.org Data: 3

Re: F19: after upgrading I cant't login from gdm

2013-07-03 Thread Andre Robatino
antonio montagnani alice.it> writes: > After fedup'ing I have a fully updated system but surprise I cannot > login, after the password insertion of any user I get a blank screen > with the fedora log on the bottom, and nothing happens. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=946964 h

Re: F19: after upgrading I cant't login from gdm

2013-07-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 2 22:34, antonio montagnani wrote: > After fedup'ing I have a fully updated system but surprise I cannot > login, after the password insertion of any user I get a blank screen > with the fedora log on the bottom, and nothing happens. I had an analogue problem after yum distro-sync. After

this is test responder

2013-07-03 Thread jon
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Re: Apple iTunes in Fedora

2013-07-03 Thread Edward Martinez
On 7/2/2013 11:53 PM, Thomas Tobian wrote: Any idea to install Apple iTunes in Fedora? iTunes is not a native Linux application, it would need to be install in a windows emulator(ie wine), however it results would be unpredictable. -- An investment in knowledge always pays the best inter